Simon Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 And here we go.... https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/06/media/espn-fox-warner-bros-discovery-team-up-sports-streamer/index.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Is ESPN not part of Disney anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Great. Now sports channels are going to be like an extra $750 a month. Greedy! 4 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Betcha I will still need a password I don’t remember to get into each one each time… 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) Yay, cable is back just double the price. 7 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Is ESPN not part of Disney anymore? If you have Disney+ this will be free. But Disney+ will be $75 a month by then. Edited February 6 by Buffalo_Stampede 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Yay, cable is back just double the price. Double? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/espn-fox-warner-bros-discovery-streaming-sports-service/ By subscribing to this focused, all-in-one premier sports service, fans would have access to the linear sports networks including ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, SECN, ACCN, ESPNEWS, ABC, FOX, FS1, FS2, BTN, TNT, TBS, truTV, as well as ESPN+. Looks it's just the beginning of sports heading to streaming only. This is being launched in fall 2024, in time for the new NFL season 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 We'll be cycling back to cable being cheaper than streaming in a few years. 4 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Great. More money to get the same stuff i am getting now, except in one app. Thieves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 8 minutes ago, Lost said: We'll be cycling back to cable being cheaper than streaming in a few years. Or cable companies will forced to become the equivalent of internet service providers only and they'll get in bed with the streaming services... 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 I can see starting the next NFL season some 4pm games that are fox only available on the streaming app. As well as some Monday Night football games. Got get people buying this to watch sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted February 6 Author Share Posted February 6 I'll miss watching football, hockey and the NCAA tournament, but maybe in the bigger picture it will be a good thing to be able to sell my TV and spend even more time outside doing stuff. 5 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 3 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: I can see starting the next NFL season some 4pm games that are fox only available on the streaming app. As well as some Monday Night football games. Got get people buying this to watch sports. This is how these broadcast networks are ditching the middle man, the cable companies. But the consumers price won’t go down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: This is how these broadcast networks are ditching the middle man, the cable companies. But the consumers price won’t go down. You had to know this was going to happen. They have to replace that cable revenue from somewhere. I for one love they heading towards a more streaming based world. I haven't had cable or satellite in years. Streaming is much more convenient. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: This is how these broadcast networks are ditching the middle man, the cable companies. But the consumers price won’t go down. More than that, they getting around laws, regulations and taxes that are in place for cable tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 $6 PPV, per event? 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Yay, cable is back just double the price. If you have Disney+ this will be free. But Disney+ will be $75 a month by then. Actually said this to my son this past weekend & it’s not far from the truth. Al la carte at 2x the price… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I’d love to be principled and just walk away from watching the NFL because of the rising costs but I’m too weak… but it might just actually end up being to expensive for me to actually afford and justify and I’ll be forced out as a viewing fan. That will suck if that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJGauna Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I’ll stick with NFLB*** lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 54 minutes ago, Lost said: We'll be cycling back to cable being cheaper than streaming in a few years. Yep….. I’ve said this before. vable is a de facto consolidator or all the stations , satelittes do that too. Streaming will e rntually get thst way where a companies consolidate all the programming into one stop shop. thr cost factor is if commercials/ sponsors subsidize the content or do consumers pay more for no commercials beyond live broadcasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 50 minutes ago, transient said: Or cable companies will forced to become the equivalent of internet service providers only and they'll get in bed with the streaming services... They're already doing that. Spectrum has their own streaming app which I've been using a number of years. I use it on my Apple TV as well as my TVs with Roku boxes. Spectrum is phasing out their cable boxes and now have their own streaming device called Xumo which you can rent for a monthly fee and eventually own. The Spectrum app BTW consolidates all the channels like cable did. You purchase your programming package but it is streamed versus coming through a cable box. My biggest adjustment was not having a box showing the current time. Edited February 7 by jkeerie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Super Fan Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 These sports leagues are going to get there money one way or the other and they are going to do what they are going to do. Everyone has a choice if it’s too much money for an individual fan don’t go or don’t buy seems pretty simple to me in my opinion. Go Bills! Go Sabres! Let’s Go Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonderful Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 There will be a day when all games particularly the Super Bowl will require some type of subscription or PPV fee. Paying monthly fees while having still having commercials is a money making scam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 6 hours ago, Lost said: We'll be cycling back to cable being cheaper than streaming in a few years. I'd say it's more like streaming will morph into essentially cable. Edited February 7 by Warcodered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 6 hours ago, Mr. Wonderful said: There will be a day when all games particularly the Super Bowl will require some type of subscription or PPV fee. Paying monthly fees while having still having commercials is a money making scam. What makes it a scam? Are tricked into watching? It seems more like a straightforward aboveboard business model than a scam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 "Where's our good silver? I hocked it to pay the streaming fees." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 And now all the other streaming services like Netflix and Prime are introducing commercials. They're trying to make streaming essentially cable, without all the copper infrastructure. They also want you to have your own ISP to access their service you pay for Right at a time when my sports fandom has severely waned. If not for JA17 and my deep love of the Bills and all the Sunday rituals, I may not be watching sports at all anymore. I find soo many of the athletes dislikeable and the messaging coming out of these products disagreeable... I digress. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 15 hours ago, BillsfaninChicago said: Betcha I will still need a password I don’t remember to get into each one each time… "Email or Password are incorrect." "Forget password." "Create New Password" "Password cannot be your last password." FU technology. Edited February 7 by Royale with Cheese 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: "Email or Password are incorrect." "Forget password." "Create New Password" "Password cannot be your last password." FU technology. i've decided to have more kids so i can use their names and birthdays as passwords. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotSHO Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 hours ago, Chaos said: What makes it a scam? Are tricked into watching? It seems more like a straightforward aboveboard business model than a scam. It just makes you realize original TV broadcasters really F'd up when they gave it away for free. Should have put a coin slot on the front of every TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 If you really want to, blame Goodell and the NFL. The cost driving the money grabbing originates from the huge contracts these guys negotiate and that in the end just comes out of our pockets. The only thing you can do is not pay for it and/or don't support the advertisers. Not many people are going to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 35 minutes ago, teef said: i've decided to have more kids so i can use their names and birthdays as passwords. You didn't cut the cord? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 hours ago, babulator said: And now all the other streaming services like Netflix and Prime are introducing commercials. They're trying to make streaming essentially cable, without all the copper infrastructure. They also want you to have your own ISP to access their service you pay for Right at a time when my sports fandom has severely waned. If not for JA17 and my deep love of the Bills and all the Sunday rituals, I may not be watching sports at all anymore. I find soo many of the athletes dislikeable and the messaging coming out of these products disagreeable... I digress. Yep. Most of all for me it’s that every other commercial now during games is like “Gamble your hard-earned money away on sports outcomes!” 😠 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR8 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Honestly for the "smaller" companies like Disney (who owns ESPN & 20th Century Fox's Portfolio and has had a long standing partnership with them), and Warner Bros. Discovery, both are small fish in the pond, but all of them are competing for the same viewers, so combining is smart. They make it sound like this is groundbreaking, but this is literally what Disney orchestrated 15 years ago when they combined with then NBC, CBS, and Fox to create Hulu. It was a conglomerate content service to battle Netflix. It ended up getting ruined by everybody creating their own version of a streaming platform rather than strength in numbers and sharing the revenue. With sports however, the content is exorbitantly expensive because of the contracts with the league, and on top of that you have all of the on-air personalities and the battling for ratings. Housing everything streaming wise under one banner allows you to eventually cut your costs and increase revenue numbers with something that is inherently difficult to make money on. ESPN for a very long time was the only part of Disney's umbrella that wasn't making money. Disney Plus and they're streaming has been a disaster making both of them not profitable. But at the end of the day ESPN because of all of the on-air personalities, contracts with so many various leagues, college sports, semi-pro sports, all of that content that they need to pay for has made it a cost center rather than a revenue generator. ESPN has been unofficially and officially for sale for a very long time but nobody wants it because it doesn't make money. This is a very "Bob Iger" solution... He did it before and Hulu was great back then, this is a great natural partnership for these companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: You didn't cut the cord? ya know...i didn't. i think about it on the regular. my wife is covered for a few years, but i still don't like the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 4 minutes ago, teef said: ya know...i didn't. i think about it on the regular. my wife is covered for a few years, but i still don't like the idea. Would you like to hear an interesting study on sperm? Of course you do. Well, studies show that men who smoke marijuana, their swimmers swim faster when they are carrying THC. However, they burn themselves out by the time they get to the egg and they lose the battle in the trenches. It's like when we beat the Cowboys. So, Cheech it up more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 16 hours ago, Jrb1979 said: https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/espn-fox-warner-bros-discovery-streaming-sports-service/ By subscribing to this focused, all-in-one premier sports service, fans would have access to the linear sports networks including ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, SECN, ACCN, ESPNEWS, ABC, FOX, FS1, FS2, BTN, TNT, TBS, truTV, as well as ESPN+. Looks it's just the beginning of sports heading to streaming only. This is being launched in fall 2024, in time for the new NFL season more accurately just in time for the baseball playoffs and the college football season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 11 hours ago, Mr. Wonderful said: There will be a day when all games particularly the Super Bowl will require some type of subscription or PPV fee. Paying monthly fees while having still having commercials is a money making scam. Superbowl commercials are so popular and expensive, there's zero chance their going to disrupt that. People will tune in to the Superbowl for the commercials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) Can someone explain how needing all these apps, and having wifi all set and needing all these logins with all these different services and most imporant, all these different subscriptions to manage is "better" than cable TV where I had everything in one place all run through one service? Edited February 7 by RkFast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 an analysis of this new sports platform this morning had two key tidbits: Without cbs and nbc…they don’t have a dominant position They will have to changed MINIMUM $45-$50 a month to start to break even Either you will have to pay $45-$50 a month or there will be an ad level that's half of the price. 4 minutes ago, RkFast said: Can someone explain how needing all these apps, and having wifi all set and needing all these logins with all these different services and most imporant, all these different subscriptions to manage is "better" than cable TV where I had everything in one place all run through one service? In the beginning of streaming, it was much cheaper than cable and you could watch what you want when you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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