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Sorry if this has been posted

 

Had to listen the 2nd quarter on radio

 

On the Bills first punt of the game Mayock clearly hints that he expects a fake from the Bills

 

first question - wth would we tip off a media personality?

 

second question - why would Mayock open his mouth, any Chiefs affiliate personal listening would have a chance to relay this info, no?

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3 minutes ago, sven233 said:

You could see by the movement pre-snap that something was up.  It looked like there was some confusion and you could sense it was coming.  It surprised nobody.

And that's why it was a bad call. Terrible execution. To me that's 100% coaching.

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The Bills are an unprepared and sloppy team. That was none more evident than on that play yesterday and it's been apparent throughout McDermott's tenure here. He's in over his bald head and if not for Allen, he'd be coaching DBs in Carolina right now.

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3 minutes ago, QB Bills said:

The Bills are an unprepared and sloppy team. That was none more evident than on that play yesterday and it's been apparent throughout McDermott's tenure here. He's in over his bald head and if not for Allen, he'd be coaching DBs in Carolina right now.

 

For a guy who prides himself on toughness and discipline, it sure doesn't translate into the team he coaches.  Or maybe they're a bunch of dummies that can't grasp McD's 12th dimensional chess?  I guess we'll never know!

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When I saw Hamlin switch sides of the formation, then switch back, I knew what was up. What I never could've imagined is that Hamlin himself would be running the ball. I can't fault McD for being aggressive when his Defense was getting gashed every drive, but what an utterly ridiculous way to do it.

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23 minutes ago, sven233 said:

You could see by the movement pre-snap that something was up.  It looked like there was some confusion and you could sense it was coming.  It surprised nobody.

Agreed, you could tell something was up.  

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18 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

And that's why it was a bad call. Terrible execution. To me that's 100% coaching.

 

I generally support McD.  But as soon as I saw the fake, even before Hamlin was tackled, I thought, "Oh, crap!" 

 

I didn't like the call and liked the execution even less.  

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I mean, it’s Mahomes and you have to score EVERY SINGLE DRIVE to expect to win.  And our punter was injured.  Sooooo yea I was expecting a fake punt and I’d have even dialed up a surprise onsides kick myself 

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6 minutes ago, peterpan said:

I mean, it’s Mahomes and you have to score EVERY SINGLE DRIVE to expect to win.  And our punter was injured.  Sooooo yea I was expecting a fake punt and I’d have even dialed up a surprise onsides kick myself 

 

It's not that mode of thinking that was the problem. It was a very poorly designed play and the confusion and the way he was lined up was a dead giveaway. At that point a good HC would have audibled out of it or gone for it by giving the ball to Josh. 

 

But McD has no feel for the game whatsoever. It's a huge problem. 

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I re-watched it this morning and it couldn't have been more obvious it was a fake punt. Regardless of whether Mayock knew, every Chiefs players on the field knew, along with every fan in the stadium and every person watching. It was just so incredibly stupid and such an obvious choke moment from the HC. Another in a long line of instances where McD was just in over his head in a big situation.

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2 minutes ago, pigpen65 said:

I re-watched it this morning and it couldn't have been more obvious it was a fake punt. Regardless of whether Mayock knew, every Chiefs players on the field knew, along with every fan in the stadium and every person watching. It was just so incredibly stupid and such an obvious choke moment from the HC. Another in a long line of instances where McD was just in over his head in a big situation.

 

Yup, he seizes up.  I know that look.  Get some counseling, man

 

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1 hour ago, sven233 said:

You could see by the movement pre-snap that something was up.  It looked like there was some confusion and you could sense it was coming.  It surprised nobody.

It was disorganized and botched. It looked like the punt team wanted to yell out alert and punt it instead. Our ST's have been awful all year.

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1 hour ago, Nostradumbass said:

Sorry if this has been posted

 

Had to listen the 2nd quarter on radio

 

On the Bills first punt of the game Mayock clearly hints that he expects a fake from the Bills

 

first question - wth would we tip off a media personality?

 

second question - why would Mayock open his mouth, any Chiefs affiliate personal listening would have a chance to relay this info, no?


because you were the only one listening to Mayock on the radio

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The decision to go for that play is on McDermott. But A LOT of critique here is on HOW the play was run. McDermott coaches the ST now? He sets up the formations and assignments in ST? Thats news to...well...literally everyone. 

 

Are we going to blame McD for Billy Buffalo not getting his suit drycleaned before the game now? Can we PLEASE keep the arrows aimed at McD to the ones he actually has responsibility for taking? 

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44 minutes ago, pigpen65 said:

I re-watched it this morning and it couldn't have been more obvious it was a fake punt. Regardless of whether Mayock knew, every Chiefs players on the field knew, along with every fan in the stadium and every person watching. It was just so incredibly stupid and such an obvious choke moment from the HC. Another in a long line of instances where McD was just in over his head in a big situation.

Only harm that was done as a result was KC took some time off the clock.  We took the ball back on that drive anyway.  This isn't why the game was lost.

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1 minute ago, Nuncha said:

Only harm that was done as a result was KC took some time off the clock.  We took the ball back on that drive anyway.  This isn't why the game was lost.


Agreed. It was a verrrry questionable call in that situation, and I'll echo others in saying it makes more sense to just leave the offense on the field if you're not gonna punt.

That said...it ultimately didn't cost the Bills any points, and they got the ball back with the chance for a game-winning or game-tying drive.

That call is not the reason the Bills lost the game.

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2 hours ago, Nostradumbass said:

Sorry if this has been posted

 

Had to listen the 2nd quarter on radio

 

On the Bills first punt of the game Mayock clearly hints that he expects a fake from the Bills

 

first question - wth would we tip off a media personality?

 

second question - why would Mayock open his mouth, any Chiefs affiliate personal listening would have a chance to relay this info, no?

If you understand what you’re looking at you can tell when something is different. Theres a decent amount of the Bills offensive plays that I can call out what’s gonna happen just by looking at the formation, how players line up and the motion. 

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some surprise plays are needed...apparently so are acting lessons...

 

over the decafes...fake punts, screen passes (other than Chan Gailey era) and draw plays have rarely been executed well in Bills history

I give Daboll credit for running the most trick plays and tackle eligible passes in team history.

 

Longest gain from scrimmage yesterday for Bills was 15 yards...chiefs has several - 8 I believe


how about a bomb or two...not just a show-me-one.... with a max protect blocking scheme.

 

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47 minutes ago, RkFast said:

The decision to go for that play is on McDermott. But A LOT of critique here is on HOW the play was run. McDermott coaches the ST now? He sets up the formations and assignments in ST? Thats news to...well...literally everyone. 

 

Are we going to blame McD for Billy Buffalo not getting his suit drycleaned before the game now? Can we PLEASE keep the arrows aimed at McD to the ones he actually has responsibility for taking? 

He’s the head coach. The entire team is his responsibility. 

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2 hours ago, QB Bills said:

The Bills are an unprepared and sloppy team. That was none more evident than on that play yesterday and it's been apparent throughout McDermott's tenure here. He's in over his bald head and if not for Allen, he'd be coaching DBs in Carolina right now.

Was hoping to get a notification on my phone that he decided to move to Syria 

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It cannot be overstated what an inept decision that fake punt was.

 

HORRIFIC judgment from McLoser.

 

As has been said many times before, we not only have to beat the other team and the refs, we have to beat our own coach.

 

 

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49 minutes ago, RkFast said:

The decision to go for that play is on McDermott. But A LOT of critique here is on HOW the play was run. McDermott coaches the ST now? He sets up the formations and assignments in ST? Thats news to...well...literally everyone. 

 

Are we going to blame McD for Billy Buffalo not getting his suit drycleaned before the game now? Can we PLEASE keep the arrows aimed at McD to the ones he actually has responsibility for taking? 

 

So you think the Head Coach has no idea what the play design is on a fake punt, especially with that much on the line? He just told his ST coach - "Hey draw up a fake punt, I don't care what it looks like, but we're going to use it in a really critical spot in the game. Thanks." 

 

He's the HEAD coach. It's bad coaching whether he had no idea what the pay looked like or he did and still gave it the green light. And when there was confusion and Hamlin lined up directly behind the snapper and gave the whole thing away...yes, as a Head Coach, the guy with the power to call timeout...he should have. 

 

Also, if he gave that much unchecked power to a ST coach...what does that say when he's almost certainly about to fire that coach? He gave a coordinator who he knew was in over a head that much possible sway with the season on the line? 

 

How does any of this look good on McD?

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49 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

When your punter is clearly injured and your defense isn't even slowing down the opponent, everyone is expecting a fake.

I really didn’t mind going for it in that spot. I definitely minded putting the punt team out there. 

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4 hours ago, starrymessenger said:

And that's why it was a bad call. Terrible execution. To me that's 100% coaching.

Terrible execution is 100% coaching? Execution is a player thing.

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3 hours ago, 947 said:

When I saw Hamlin switch sides of the formation, then switch back, I knew what was up. What I never could've imagined is that Hamlin himself would be running the ball. I can't fault McD for being aggressive when his Defense was getting gashed every drive, but what an utterly ridiculous way to do it.

Same here never saw him do this before I guess nervous Nelly telegraphed the call

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4 hours ago, Nostradumbass said:

Sorry if this has been posted

 

Had to listen the 2nd quarter on radio

 

On the Bills first punt of the game Mayock clearly hints that he expects a fake from the Bills

 

first question - wth would we tip off a media personality?

 

second question - why would Mayock open his mouth, any Chiefs affiliate personal listening would have a chance to relay this info, no?

 

Where is the proof Mayock knew there was something coning? It may have just been a hunch by him. No one would have told him.

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1 minute ago, MJS said:

Terrible execution is 100% coaching? Execution is a player thing.

Coach has to know if his player can execute what he's being asked to do.  Hamlin? Really? I'm not surprised at the result.  He is also responsible for ensuring the players are disciplined enough to get the job done  before he calls it. This was a completely undisciplined fiasco where the intention was telegraphed. Gee maybe they didn't practice it enuf. Oh and maybe the defensive set should inform as to the viability of the call. What was it eight or nine guys in the box? Of course the coach is not on the field but that doesn't take him off the hook. If it did they would all have championship rings because I'm pretty sure most NFL coaches know enuf to tell their players exactly what they need to do. So good execution is not just a player responsibility. 
 

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5 hours ago, sven233 said:

You could see by the movement pre-snap that something was up.  It looked like there was some confusion and you could sense it was coming.  It surprised nobody.

This

 

Damar was pacing around back there. It was so obvious

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