Tulsabillsfanz Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, Peter said: Diggs is a shadow of himself. He has been playing like a middling WR since about week 10. Unless he is hurt and that is the reason why he has been so poor, we are stuck with a horrible contract. He is supposed to have hurt his foot. His problem tonight was his hands. He dropped 2 big passes. He also fumbled one one of his few catches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 He's done and has been half the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdox Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Diggs is an elusive route runner and very good at finding space in zones, but he doesn't really have the elite speed or physicality to get consistent separation against many of the top corners of opposing defenses when in man defense. We need to find that #1 so Diggs can shift over to #2. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I thought this was a bs post at first, but i was wrong. he really was poor today. big game players are supposed to show in big games and he didn't. we've had his family criticising the team mid season. and, as someone said elsewhere, forcing the ball to him cost us easy games this year yeah, i owe the OP an apology. he was right and i was wrong. diggs really hasn't delivered this season - not as a player nor as a captain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) Loved his attitude and fire but you have to back it up on the field. He came up with his worst game in only the biggest game of the year. In retrospect, he just looks like a loud mouthed idiot on the sidelines. Edited January 22 by QB Bills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I'm kind of hoping that we hear about some injury Diggs has been nursing since mid-season that he can recover from. Because otherwise he's cooked, and he has a huge cap hit that we can't get out of because it's already had salary converted to bonus to reduce cap a couple times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Beane’s biggest mistakes have been his contract restructurings. He’s done it with Diggs and Miller and countless others. Now there’s no easy out from either one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Saint Doug said: Beane’s biggest mistakes have been his contract restructurings. He’s done it with Diggs and Miller and countless others. Now there’s no easy out from either one. Yes there is. Just cut them. Take the lumps/cap hits and move on. What’s the difference really. We’re not winning with them so the rationale is to just hold on to them for contractual reasons? Cut them and just put back ups or young rookies in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 33 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said: Yes there is. Just cut them. Take the lumps/cap hits and move on. What’s the difference really. We’re not winning with them so the rationale is to just hold on to them for contractual reasons? Cut them and just put back ups or young rookies in. Because cutting them will mean we ultimately have to cut some other players we may not want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Beast said: Because cutting them will mean we ultimately have to cut some other players we may not want to. Like who? Who is that one guy we’d have to cut because of Diggs and Miller that we just can’t live without? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beast Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said: Like who? Who is that one guy we’d have to cut because of Diggs and Miller that we just can’t live without? I don’t know but you do realize that there is a salary cap and cutting Diggs and Miller would mean a very large cap hit (not just their yearly salary) would have to be overcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessImproverMan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Diggs better keep his damn mouth shut this off-season. Bitched about not getting the ball and then routinely drops passes and screws up. Dude ate massive crow with his crap tonight 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Cut the roster dead weight, take the financial hit and move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 45 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: Beane’s biggest mistakes have been his contract restructurings. He’s done it with Diggs and Miller and countless others. Now there’s no easy out from either one. You do that when you believe that the window of opportunity is open right now. Sometimes you're the Rams and it works. Most of the time it doesn't. Now we're stuck with some bad contracts for guys who may still be productive (Diggs is, and I actually believe Miller will be next year) but are clearly in their decline phases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I think diggs has a lingering injury wouldn’t be surprised if he needs some sort of surgery in the off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BeastMaster Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 44 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said: Yes there is. Just cut them. Take the lumps/cap hits and move on. What’s the difference really. We’re not winning with them so the rationale is to just hold on to them for contractual reasons? Cut them and just put back ups or young rookies in. You don't cut a player of value, and Diggs has value I can see the argument that you take your medicine for a year and deal him and take the cap hit if it nets you something of real value back, but I'm not cutting our best WR by far for nothing except cap space the year after next. That's insanely stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just can't have this from your #1 WR. And I'd like to say it is a new problem, but Diggs has disappeared in all of our playoff losses. Diggs has been a #1 until this year but he is not a true alpha physical #1 like Hill, Jefferson, Brown, etc. We need to strive for better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 He can spend the off season working on catching the ball. That's about all in are to say about him. Shut up and play better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Not a number one wideout. Period This team is a mess going into next season 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 58 minutes ago, Murdox said: Diggs is an elusive route runner and very good at finding space in zones, but he doesn't really have the elite speed or physicality to get consistent separation against many of the top corners of opposing defenses when in man defense. We need to find that #1 so Diggs can shift over to #2. Id love to move him inside, but $28M is a lot of cheese for that role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: You don't cut a player of value, and Diggs has value I can see the argument that you take your medicine for a year and deal him and take the cap hit if it nets you something of real value back, but I'm not cutting our best WR by far for nothing except cap space the year after next. That's insanely stupid Best receiver? Ain’t no one talking about cutting Shakir. Cut Diggs, trade Diggs….whatever. Insanely stupid? We are losing with your so called “best receiver” What’s the worst that can happen? We keep losing? Big whoopie doo. Edited January 22 by BIGFOOTspaceman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Sign Higgins and draft a big fast WR in round 1. Diggs, Higgins, Shakir, Kincaid, 1st round rookie, Cook... That's a nice offense. Then sign Henry at RB as a compliment to Cook. Awesome 1 ,2 punch. Gotta stock the talent at WR so teams need to respect the deep ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 10 minutes ago, Punch said: Yes, but he’s not free if we don’t move on. He costs $28M to keep him here. So it’s $3M more to move on that it is to keep him. This is a super important distinction. Now, we are close against the cap, and that is a fair point. But his contract on its own is movable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Good riddance. High paid player who no shows in the playoffs. Trade em to the highest bidder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I’m sorry for not wading through the postgame thread, but did Diggs actually “cowboy up” and stick around for post game press availability this time? Or did he flounce out of the stadium like a petulant kid again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, ProcessImproverMan said: Diggs better keep his damn mouth shut this off-season. Bitched about not getting the ball and then routinely drops passes and screws up. Dude ate massive crow with his crap tonight Was a media distraction pre season and a distraction at times during the season, even yelling at josh on the sidelines. And tonight when josh and the bills needed him most, he dropped a perfect game winning pass. I didn't see josh throwing a fit at diggs for dropping and absolute dime with the game on the line. Just off the top of my head I think that's the 4th game winning/tying deep bomb diggs has dropped for the bills. But I'm sure we will hear more chirping this off season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Sign Higgins and draft a big fast WR in round 1. Diggs, Higgins, Shakir, Kincaid, 1st round rookie, Cook... That's a nice offense. Then sign Henry at RB as a compliment to Cook. Awesome 1 ,2 punch. Gotta stock the talent at WR so teams need to respect the deep ball Id actually prefer an aging Evans if the cost is right. I don’t think it takes “much” to sign him short term compared to other WR numbers. That said, I’m irked Diggs didn’t meet with the media after a tough loss…again…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Mango said: Id actually prefer an aging Evans if the cost is right. I don’t think it takes “much” to sign him short term compared to other WR numbers. That said, I’m irked Diggs didn’t meet with the media after a tough loss…again…. Evans would be amazing! Guy is a beast. Diggs and Evans would be an insane combo, with the fastest rookie WR we can find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, BillMafia716ix said: Good riddance. High paid player who no shows in the playoffs. Trade em to the highest bidder It really is crazy, his three playoff games against the Chiefs went for 77, 7, and 21 receiving yards. They are really physical with him. A post 6/1 Trade may be possible as you would likely still get a good pick for him and free up space in 2024. Most likely he will be with us for one final year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 It isn't even a difficult catch. I mean this is unbelievably bad. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: It isn't even a difficult catch. I mean this is unbelievably bad. Should've been a touchdown to take the lead. How do you miss that? And how do you come back from something like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, Mango said: Id actually prefer an aging Evans if the cost is right. I don’t think it takes “much” to sign him short term compared to other WR numbers. That said, I’m irked Diggs didn’t meet with the media after a tough loss…again…. OK, I was asking about this because I didn’t have the stomach to Wade through all the post game stuff. Did Diggs bail out of the locker room and refuse to make himself available to the press, again? He doesn’t have to talk, but he’s supposed to be in the locker room during press availability. 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: It isn't even a difficult catch. I mean this is unbelievably bad. Wow. Had his man beat. Catchable ball is right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 If he isn’t nursing some secret injury please just move on from this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill51390 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Yes Diggs had a bad drop. But also, Brady hasn’t been utilizing Diggs to his strength. No coincidence his play declined once Brady took over. It’s not a knock on Brady, I think he’s done a good job. Especially with the running game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 33 minutes ago, HappyDays said: It isn't even a difficult catch. I mean this is unbelievably bad. Really odd he tried to bring it into the body instead of going up with his hands. These types of catches used to be his bread and butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 47 minutes ago, WEATHER DOT COM said: Not a number one wideout. Period This team is a mess going into next season This team is far from a mess heading into next season. They will be solid and with the right additions and players returning from injury we will be better. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 41 minutes ago, Mango said: Id actually prefer an aging Evans if the cost is right. I don’t think it takes “much” to sign him short term compared to other WR numbers. That said, I’m irked Diggs didn’t meet with the media after a tough loss…again…. He didn’t but they’re saying he declined to meet with them last week to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Applicable Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 42 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I’m sorry for not wading through the postgame thread, but did Diggs actually “cowboy up” and stick around for post game press availability this time? Or did he flounce out of the stadium like a petulant kid again? No, he left early. Probably had to run off to call his brother and ask him to demand he be traded again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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