dickleyjones Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Yes losing sucks. But in the grand scheme of this season i'm not sure what is better, winning that jets game with Rogers still intact or losing with the jets season being destroyed. Of course I lean win because winning is never bad. But considering the Jets could very well have challenged us for a playoff spot with Rogers around, Floyd's play may have been more important than winning. And yeah, i'd prefer we go 17-0 but the truth is bills dolphins jets are all contenders and there is only so much room. The jets are almost certainly out of the way now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Zach Wilson looked more competent than Allen on Monday and they have a better run game and defense. 6 6 3 12 6 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Does Hackett now work with Zach Wilson? Or just chauffeur Rodgers around and push his wheelchair? 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Jets are like the Dilfer era bucs. Extraordinary D with a caretaker QB. Im not sure Wilson is even a caretaker level QB yet but he walked away with a win while our galaxy brain QB turned the ball over 4 times. I guess we'll see in the coming weeks. If the Jets can keep that level of play on D, wilson isn't going to need to do much more than 13-20 points a game 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 The Jets lost their super bowl and won their super bowl all on the same night. 11 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) As much as Monday sucked for a Bills fan, it was way worse for the Jets. Seeing your super bowl hopes disappear 5 minutes into the season was sad. For them of course. But eff them. I thought it was hilarious. Edited September 14, 2023 by QB Bills 2 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Just now, QB Bills said: As much as Monday sucked for a Bills fan. It was way worse for the Jets. Seeing your super bowl hopes disappear 5 minutes into the season was sad. For them of course. But f them. I thought it was hilarious. always funny when someone suffers a season ending injury, said a very good person 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 That defense will keep them in every game. Those RBs will move the chains. Garrett Wilson will help Zach Wilson on some plays. While losing Rodgers obviously hurts, it allows them to get away for 3 WR sets and lean into a more conservative offensive style...which may be what they are stronger at anyway. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 minute ago, dorquemada said: always funny when someone suffers a season ending injury, said a very good person Oh I'm anything but. Been watching this team for too long to still be a kind person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Just now, BuffaloBillyG said: That defense will keep them in every game. Those RBs will move the chains. Garrett Wilson will help Zach Wilson on some plays. While losing Rodgers obviously hurts, it allows them to get away for 3 WR sets and lean into a more conservative offensive style...which may be what they are stronger at anyway. At least with the Jets you can see the pathway to success. Run the ball a lot with Hall and Cook. Sprinkle in some Play action to Garrett Wilson, play good defense. Given that Allen appears to still be firmly in idiot mode, what exactly is the Bills alternate path to success? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Just now, That's No Moon said: At least with the Jets you can see the pathway to success. Run the ball a lot with Hall and Cook. Sprinkle in some Play action to Garrett Wilson, play good defense. Given that Allen appears to still be firmly in idiot mode, what exactly is the Bills alternate path to success? Seeing how the Jets responded to the worst sort of adversity, versus how Buffalo reacted to having the game handed to them on a silver platter, tells you a lot about both teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Just now, dorquemada said: Seeing how the Jets responded to the worst sort of adversity, versus how Buffalo reacted to having the game handed to them on a silver platter, tells you a lot about both teams Yea. The guys on this roster have never faced any real adversity. Good call. 🙄 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Yea. The guys on this roster have never faced any real adversity. Good call. 🙄 Right, that was super on display on Monday night,folding like a cheap suit 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 I genuinely feel pretty bad for their fan base 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, dorquemada said: Seeing how the Jets responded to the worst sort of adversity, versus how Buffalo reacted to having the game handed to them on a silver platter, tells you a lot about both teams I really don't think the rest of the jets team played that game any better than they would have with Rodgers. I dont think they "responded" at all. They just took advantage of what Allen gave them. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 This Rodgers extension really looks like it might bite them. They back loaded the deal to a 40+ YO QB who now has a ruptured Achilles. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 it was a boom or bust move. it didn't work out. i always respect the attempt, but to there was risk. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, QB Bills said: As much as Monday sucked for a Bills fan, it was way worse for the Jets. Seeing your super bowl hopes disappear 5 minutes into the season was sad. For them of course. But eff them. I thought it was hilarious. I'm not going to lose sleep or sympathize for the Jets. We lost our HOF caliber pass rusher last year. Deal with it fireman Ed. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 35 minutes ago, dickleyjones said: Yes losing sucks. But in the grand scheme of this season i'm not sure what is better, winning that jets game with Rogers still intact or losing with the jets season being destroyed. Of course I lean win because winning is never bad. But considering the Jets could very well have challenged us for a playoff spot with Rogers around, Floyd's play may have been more important than winning. And yeah, i'd prefer we go 17-0 but the truth is bills dolphins jets are all contenders and there is only so much room. The jets are almost certainly out of the way now. I mean I wouldn't say they are for sure screwed...Wilson was a recent #2 overall pic...yes he struggled early, but it doesn't mean he can't keep evolving as a player and growing, and he has now beaten us twice in the past 2 seasons. Am I optimistic that Wilson can lead them to the playoffs in a tough division and AFC...no...but I am also not going to dismiss it. Jimmy G who is mediocre starter led the Niners to a SB and almost another one because of a great D and run game. Jets IMO are going to try now and follow more the Niners model and get their talented RB room going and try and keep Wilson from having to carry the team at all. Although, the Jets OL is not very good, so its not gonna be easy either. Just saying, if Wilson can just be average, with that roster they can still be a very tough opponent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I mean I wouldn't say they are for sure screwed...Wilson was a recent #2 overall pic...yes he struggled early, but it doesn't mean he can't keep evolving as a player and growing, and he has now beaten us twice in the past 2 seasons. Am I optimistic that Wilson can lead them to the playoffs in a tough division and AFC...no...but I am also not going to dismiss it. Jimmy G who is mediocre starter led the Niners to a SB and almost another one because of a great D and run game. Jets IMO are going to try now and follow more the Niners model and get their talented RB room going and try and keep Wilson from having to carry the team at all. Although, the Jets OL is not very good, so its not gonna be easy either. Just saying, if Wilson can just be average, with that roster they can still be a very tough opponent. You're going to find out what zach wilson is capable of this week May God have mercy on his soul 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2mountain Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 I never like to see a player severely injured. Even a divisional opponent. (I don't mind those nagging little injuries, that's part of the game) I like to win on even playing field, on the merits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Devils advocate - they still beat the Bills. If they view this as they can beat any teams with their D they could easily win games - 2 vs Pats, Broncos, Raiders, Falcons, Texans, Commanders, Browns. That is 9 wins. They only need a couple more wins in 2 games vs Fins, Giants, Cowboys, Chiefs, Eagles, Chargers. Can they win two of those and get to 11? Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Just now, ngbills said: Devils advocate - they still beat the Bills. If they view this as they can beat any teams with their D they could easily win games - 2 vs Pats, Broncos, Raiders, Falcons, Texans, Commanders, Browns. That is 9 wins. They only need a couple more wins in 2 games vs Fins, Giants, Cowboys, Chiefs, Eagles, Chargers. Can they win two of those and get to 11? Maybe. assumption doing a whole lot of heavy lifting there friend 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 I honestly feel bad for the Jets and their fans. I hate New England and Miami, obviously, but I just don't have the same animosity toward the Jets. They're a snakebitten franchises that can't seem to catch a break, so I guess I feel a little bit of affinity toward them. It helps that the Jets and Bills have never really been relevant at the same time, at least since our SB era. If ever there was a roster that is just one above-average QB away from the SB, it is this year's Jets team. They thought they had their QB and it came up snake-eyes. That really hurts bad when you consider the cap implications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 47 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Zach Wilson looked more competent than Allen on Monday and they have a better run game and defense. The Jets will still lose more games than they win and lose in Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 40 minutes ago, QB Bills said: As much as Monday sucked for a Bills fan, it was way worse for the Jets. Seeing your super bowl hopes disappear 5 minutes into the season was sad. For them of course. But eff them. I thought it was hilarious. I mean, just imagine buy a really expensive ticket just to get a good seat and watch Aaron Rodgers. I do feel bad for those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: You're going to find out what zach wilson is capable of this week May God have mercy on his soul I mean just to be clear I am no believer in Wilson, just also am not ready to dismiss the idea he could have gotten a little better since he last started to where he can be decent enough for them to win some games with that D and run game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: assumption doing a whole lot of heavy lifting there friend Not really. They were 7-10 last year with Breece Hall going down and only playing 7 games. Why would they be that much worse this year? Last year they had Wilson, Flacco, White and Streveler at QB. They go run heavy and have Wilson play smart its not as hard as people are making it out to be. 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: I mean just to be clear I am no believer in Wilson, just also am not ready to dismiss the idea he could have gotten a little better since he last started to where he can be decent enough for them to win some games with that D and run game. That is the point. People are acting like they were a 2 win team last year. They won 7 games with a rotating group of QB's. Wilson could settle in and play average ball and with a healthy Hall and Cook they are a better team than last year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Has anyone checked in with @Jimmy Spagnola now that A-A-Ron isn't the guy anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 I honestly feel sorry for Jets fans but don't prolong the agony with dreams of a Superbowl party If you do that, I no longer feel sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 I'm beyond consolation prizes and moral victories, I want championships. I'm not drooling all over the Jets D either. Sure they are good, but those turnovers were terrible. Our D is every bit as good. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 41 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: I genuinely feel pretty bad for their fan base Me too. Kyle Brandt was talking about how he left the stadium shortly after the injury and fans were still coming in. There was a family, mom, dad two sons all wearing Rodgers jerseys walking into the stadium talking about seeing Rodgers play. I remember being that kid excited to see our new "insert player here". To have that just taken away within a series? That hurts Especially when now, you turn back to the guy they dumped last year. Just brutal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 56 minutes ago, QB Bills said: As much as Monday sucked for a Bills fan, it was way worse for the Jets. Seeing your super bowl hopes disappear 5 minutes into the season was sad. For them of course. But eff them. I thought it was hilarious. I’ll give SB hopes. Playoff hopes? Not so fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 What the Jets desperately need is a less then 40 healthy QB. But, I almost bet you they will do nothing and pray Rogers will be fine Kind of like the time bomb in Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) The Jets are screwing themselves by not trying to get another starting caliber QB (won't get elite, but game-manager level). They are out there: Winston, Dalton, trading to PIT for Mitch or Rudolph, Colt McCoy, MInshew, Mariota, T. Bridgewater, Keenum, Brisett. At least 1/2 of these QBs are better than what they have now and could serve as a competent game manager, which is all the Jets offense needs to push for a deep playoff run. Edited September 14, 2023 by RyanC883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 26 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: assumption doing a whole lot of heavy lifting there friend Gotta ask - are you assuming we beat the Jets in round 2? If so, what exactly makes you confident it’ll happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 That Jets defense will keep them in nearly every game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, stinky finger said: Gotta ask - are you assuming we beat the Jets in round 2? If so, what exactly makes you confident it’ll happen. Are you assuming we won't? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: The Jets are screwing themselves by not trying to get another starting caliber QB (won't get elite, but game-manager level). They are out there: Winston, Dalton, trading to PIT for Mitch or Rudolph, Colt McCoy, MInshew, Mariota, T. Bridgewater, Keenum, Brisett. At least 1/2 of these QBs are better than what they have now and could serve as a competent game manager, which is all the Jets offense needs to push for a deep playoff run. The problem is this week one. All those teams have playoff hopes and good backups The guys that are FAs right now are not going to help them and no one is trading the top backup, not without squeezing the Jets hard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: The problem is this week one. All those teams have playoff hopes and good backups The guys that are FAs right now are not going to help them and no one is trading the top backup, not without squeezing the Jets hard true, but I think the Jets have so many young guys on rookie contracts that even trading a 1st for Winston makes sense at this point. They won't be able to draft one next year, and Rodgers status is up in the air. Or, PIT may be willing to part with 1/2 of its backups for a 3rd next year and 2nd the following (Jets lack a 2nd next year)> 5 minutes ago, Einstein said: That Jets defense will keep them in nearly every game. so will the RBs and G. Wilson, who just needs the ball near him. Edited September 14, 2023 by RyanC883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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