BillsFanForever19 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) So the post that the Practice Squad is complete seems to be incorrect. Or they signed someone to it just to release them a day later. Not exactly a surprise with Barkley on IR. Have to at least have 2 QB's on the 53 and one on the PS. Hopefully it's someone who can supplant Kyle Allen at some point. Edited August 31, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 2 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Matt Coral? 👀 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 I say bring in Wentz. He’s certainly not great by any stretch but you aren’t going to get a guy that gives you a better shot at maybe being decent for a stretch. Nobody will have more upside and nobody will have more ability. Maybe this system unlocks his original self a little and we can have a guy behind Josh that could salvage a season incase of injury 1 1 12 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Ryan Joseph Fitzpatrick will be first QB in history to be working job as broadcaster while on a NFL's team roster. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I say bring in Wentz. He’s certainly not great by any stretch but you aren’t going to get a guy that gives you a better shot at maybe being decent for a stretch. Nobody will have more upside and nobody will have more ability. Maybe this system unlocks his original self a little and we can have a guy behind Josh that could salvage a season incase of injury I would be happy with Wentz. 1 1 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, CSBill said: I would be happy with Wentz. The problem with Wentz on your PS is he is a difficult teammate. Some of the stories about him marching around the locker room in Philly telling teammates they were with team Wentz or team Foles are frightening. 1 1 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 I think they need to sign a guy with excellent mobility. Josh hides a lot of O-line sins. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: The problem with Wentz on your PS is he is a difficult teammate. Some of the stories about him marching around the locker room in Philly telling teammates they were with team Wentz or team Foles are frightening. Yea I didn’t know all that, reports from Philly, Indy, and Washington all about him being a locker room cancer. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: The problem with Wentz on your PS is he is a difficult teammate. Some of the stories about him marching around the locker room in Philly telling teammates they were with team Wentz or team Foles are frightening. Ah, I did not know that part. I certainly don't want them to add him if he will be trouble in the locker room. But hopefully he is matured and humbled, since his days in Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Matt Coral? 👀 I’d prefer someone with mobility but I wouldn’t mind bringing him in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: The problem with Wentz on your PS is he is a difficult teammate. Some of the stories about him marching around the locker room in Philly telling teammates they were with team Wentz or team Foles are frightening. Right! Like imagine if Josh Rosen had actually had a promising year and then a great half a year and then started having a rough stretch with injuries and was just super toxic the way all the reports have him... would people want that version of Josh Rosen? Using Rosen as an example because I think most people agree with Rosen having a crap attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: The problem with Wentz on your PS is he is a difficult teammate. Some of the stories about him marching around the locker room in Philly telling teammates they were with team Wentz or team Foles are frightening. I would pay good money to see the ensuing hilarity if he pulled that "Team Josh or Team Carson" in the Bills locker room 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Tommy Devito is something to watch. Just now, NewEra said: I’d prefer someone with mobility but I wouldn’t mind bringing him in Me too, I’m on the scrambling QB club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: The problem with Wentz on your PS is he is a difficult teammate. Some of the stories about him marching around the locker room in Philly telling teammates they were with team Wentz or team Foles are frightening. Oh but just imagine him strutting around, yelling in Von Miller's face "are you team Allen or team Wentz??" followed by the sound of the shower water gurgling down the drain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said: Tommy Devito is something to watch. I would rather have Danny 2 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) I mean maybe he needs a team with solid support and clear boundaries... it sounds like he has something more foundational going on with his personality, but I don't know him and have not seen near enough to have a real opinion on him as a person, but I'd be very cautious if I were Beane bringing him onto this roster. Edited August 30, 2023 by HardyBoy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, HardyBoy said: I mean maybe he needs a team with solid support and clear boundaries... it sounds like he has something more foundational going on with his personality, but I don't know him and have not seen near enough to have a real opinion on him as a person, but I'd be very cautious if I were Beane bringing him onto this roster. There's a hilarious video of Colin Hot Take Cowherd before the 2018 draft laughing at Josh Allen because some people had compared him to Wentz, and he goes on to say Wentz is a great QB and Allen is nowhere near as good as him 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: The problem with Wentz on your PS is he is a difficult teammate. Some of the stories about him marching around the locker room in Philly telling teammates they were with team Wentz or team Foles are frightening. I had heard he was difficult, but WOW! That is exactly the kind of thing that most people never know about when we judge a GM’s decisions. Having better information is a huge part of the job. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: The problem with Wentz on your PS is he is a difficult teammate. Some of the stories about him marching around the locker room in Philly telling teammates they were with team Wentz or team Foles are frightening. I think being on a Practice Squad is just the wake up call he needs. Can't exactly be acting like that when you're not even the #2 QB on the roster. I have to imagine going into this season without a job has taught him some humility. As would essentially flaming out of the league. His options are shut up and play or GTFO as a Practice Squad QB. Extremely short leash. And sounds like he needs it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0017 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Malik Cunningham Looked good for the Patriots, he’s mobile and went through training camp in a similar system we run here I believe. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 43 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: So the post that the Practice Squad is complete seems to be incorrect. Or they signed someone to it just to release them a day later. Not exactly a surprise with Barkley on IR. Have to at least have 2 QB's on the 53 and one on the PS. Hopefully it's someone who can supplant Kyle Allen at some point. hey bud, my hope is it’s not a journeyman as we have that in Kyle. A developmental guy like Malik Willis as he can take two to three years to develop and TN has another QB to groom. Willis is athletic but very raw. He could develop over three years, and by year 4 of his rookie contract, and we could extend him on quality backup $. He could eventually be our #2. My point is get a young athletic QB who are guys can work with over time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 31 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: The problem with Wentz on your PS is he is a difficult teammate. Some of the stories about him marching around the locker room in Philly telling teammates they were with team Wentz or team Foles are frightening. I had not heard those stories. Gross, if true. May I ask if you have a source you could share? In any event, I do not want Wentz as a backup QB. If he couldn't be revived by Reich, he can't be revived. 7 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I think being on a Practice Squad is just the wake up call he needs. Can't exactly be acting like that when you're not even the #2 QB on the roster. I have to imagine going into this season without a job has taught him some humility. As would essentially flaming out of the league. His options are shut up and play or GTFO as a Practice Squad QB. Extremely short leash. And sounds like he needs it. You may be correct about what Wentz needs, but why do you think giving someone who may need "an extremely short leash" is what the Bills need in a PS QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 PETERMAN PETERMAN the return of the prodigal son. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, 0017 said: Malik Cunningham Looked good for the Patriots, he’s mobile and went through training camp in a similar system we run here I believe. In my opinion, with how shaky Kyle Allen has looked and some of the rumors about how the team views him - I don't think we're going to bring in a developmental player who's never played a snap of regular season Football. But who knows? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Beck Water said: You may be correct about what Wentz needs, but why do you think giving someone who may need "an extremely short leash" is what the Bills need in a PS QB? I wasn't saying it is or isn't what we need. Just what will probably keep him in line. If I'm Beane and I'm interested, I say: "Between how things have looked on the field as a Starter the past couple seasons and the things i've heard, your career is at a crossroad. We're interested in giving you a chance to rebuild your career, but you'll be on the Practice Squad. Keep your nose clean and your mouth shut and maybe you'll earn a backup gig. But it's up to you. If you want a gig, you have to be a total team player. Can you do that?" Just lay out the bottom line and at this point, I think he would comply. It's that or his career is essentially over. Compared to what's out there, his potential his probably the best. And I don't think it's too much of a risk to sign him to the Practice Squad. But I would understand if we passed and went with someone we felt was a safer option for the locker room. Like Colt McCoy. 16 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: hey bud, my hope is it’s not a journeyman as we have that in Kyle. A developmental guy like Malik Willis as he can take two to three years to develop and TN has another QB to groom. Willis is athletic but very raw. He could develop over three years, and by year 4 of his rookie contract, and we could extend him on quality backup $. He could eventually be our #2. My point is get a young athletic QB who are guys can work with over time. Malik Cunningham? Malik Willis is a Titan. As for a developmental guy vs. a veteran, I kind of disagree. Cunningham is a raw Rookie. We want someone who could provide some stability and step in if Josh needs some time and Kyle keeps performing how he looked this offseason. It can't be a question mark, in my opinion. But I could be wrong. Edited August 30, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GunnerBill Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I had not heard those stories. Gross, if true. May I ask if you have a source you could share? In any event, I do not want Wentz as a backup QB. If he couldn't be revived by Reich, he can't be revived. It was like an open secret among Philly reporters at the time. Mutiple alluded to it without explicitly saying it. Don't know if it made its way out in a semi-formal sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) Have to assume practice squad status would temper Wentz's personality issues. Can't imagine there's a better option for an emergency QB. Edited August 30, 2023 by Airseven 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 25 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: PETERMAN PETERMAN the return of the prodigal son. Is the jugs machine the DBs use to practice interceptions broken? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) For those mentioning Carson Wentz or other "name brand" QBs: You probably shouldn't hold your breath. I expect that they want someone to do what Matt Barkley would be doing on the practice squad: Running scout team offense and giving practice reps to the reserve WRs. It's almost certainly going to be a young, cheap, fringe, no-name type guy that screams "practice squad QB" and nothing more. I don't think they're bringing in a legitimate (relatively speaking, since no one available right now is any good) quarterback to learn the playbook and then get called up and replace Kyle Allen. That's not what I think they're after. Edited August 30, 2023 by Logic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 People don't forget, a QB that beat Josh Allen out to be qb1 is available 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Did Colt McCoy sign anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Chad! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richNjoisy Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 I agree with warrierspikes51. McCoy fits the Bill(s) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 McCoy looked washed in Cards camp. He's another Barkley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Did Colt McCoy sign anywhere? Not yet and he's on my shortlist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 35 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I wasn't saying it is or isn't what we need. Just what will probably keep him in line. If I'm Beane and I'm interested, I say: "Between how things have looked on the field as a Starter the past couple seasons and the things i've heard, your career is at a crossroad. We're interested in giving you a chance to rebuild your career, but you'll be on the Practice Squad. Keep your nose clean and your mouth shut and maybe you'll earn a backup gig. But it's up to you. If you want a gig, you have to be a total team player. Can you do that?" Just lay out the bottom line and at this point, I think he would comply. It's that or his career is essentially over. Compared to what's out there, his potential his probably the best. And I don't think it's too much of a risk to sign him to the Practice Squad. But I would understand if we passed and went with someone we felt was a safer option for the locker room. Like Colt McCoy. Malik Cunningham? Malik Willis is a Titan. As for a developmental guy vs. a veteran, I kind of disagree. Cunningham is a raw Rookie. We want someone who could provide some stability and step in if Josh needs some time and Kyle keeps performing how he looked this offseason. It can't be a question mark, in my opinion. But I could be wrong. I was talking about Willis on a late day trade, and both yours and my guy are developmental opportunities. I agree with the Movin the. Chains guys discuss. They evaluated the whole NFL, and we have the franchise guy in Josh, whether you like it or not the backup to fill in has been decided by McBeane os Kyle. The 3rd should be a developmental guy. My choice is trade for Willis. Yours is Cunningham. The idea is franchise, fill in experienced guy, and a developmental guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Fan in Chicago said: I would pay good money to see the ensuing hilarity if he pulled that "Team Josh or Team Carson" in the Bills locker room More like “Team Kyle or Team Carson”! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Still holding out hope it’s Duggan time but I have a feeling it may be a vet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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