BillsPride12 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 It's been awhile since they have added anybody and with only 3 more years left at the current stadium it wouldn't surprise me if that were the case but does anybody know if they ever made an official comment or statement on this? My only gripe would be that Cornelius Bennett never made it on there....an important pillar of the Super Bowl teams. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: It's been awhile since they have added anybody and with only 3 more years left at the current stadium it wouldn't surprise me if that were the case but does anybody know if they ever made an official comment or statement on this? My only gripe would be that Cornelius Bennett never made it on there....an important pillar of the Super Bowl teams. Bennett was a MUCH better player than a few guys from that era that made it up there. With that being said, maybe the off the field issues have prevented him from going up? There are a bunch of others that belong: Moulds, Ruben Brown, Kyle Williams for sure. You could make arguments for a lot of others. I always use the “Jim Richter scale” to determine the worthiness. He was a decent player but not WOF-worthy. This current era has more guys that will go: Allen, McDermott, Diggs, Hyde?, Poyer?, Milano?, Tre? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Get rid of the murderer. Add Schobel. 4 1 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gugny said: Get rid of the murderer. Add Schobel. And the quitter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 I can't believe Dalton Kincaid hasn't been put up there yet. Total snub job. Ralph is cheap. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted May 14, 2023 Author Share Posted May 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Bennett was a MUCH better player than a few guys from that era that made it up there. With that being said, maybe the off the field issues have prevented him from going up? There are a bunch of others that belong: Moulds, Ruben Brown, Kyle Williams for sure. You could make arguments for a lot of others. I always use the “Jim Richter scale” to determine the worthiness. He was a decent player but not WOF-worthy. This current era has more guys that will go: Allen, McDermott, Diggs, Hyde?, Poyer?, Milano?, Tre? I do think that's the reason he didn't make it up there but I feel like that's such a slippery slope as other guys that made it up there weren't angels either. Marv Levy actually wrote a letter to the Pegulas a few years ago asking for Bennett to be included on the Wall and referenced his "mistakes" and thought he still deserved consideration. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Get rid of the murderer. Add Schobel. Why are you trying to piss me off today? ***** Schobel Why not put Kelsay up there too then? Edited May 14, 2023 by Virgil 3 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 The Wall has always included both in filed and off field. OJ was so good on field the off field did not take him off. I understand the desire for many to have him removed. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 32 minutes ago, Virgil said: Why not put Kelsey up there too then? Not a chance. 'Down Periscope' was a really bad movie. 🤨 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Get rid of the murderer. Add Schobel. Marv killed a guy? That escalated quickly. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: Marv killed a guy? That escalated quickly. He had motive and opportunity, they could just never pin it on him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Just Jack said: And the quitter. Well, Ruben Brown isn't on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 I'm trying to figure out who the quitter is, who people are referring to. Maybe Lou Saban? I think Saban definitely belongs on the WOF. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 34 minutes ago, Utah John said: I'm trying to figure out who the quitter is, who people are referring to. Maybe Lou Saban? I think Saban definitely belongs on the WOF. He belongs but he quit on Ralph twice. So it’s never going to happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: He belongs but he quit on Ralph twice. So it’s never going to happen. It did happen. https://www.buffalobills.com/team/alumni/wall-of-fame 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Virgil said: Why are you trying to piss me off today? ***** Schobel Why not put Kelsay up there too then? We will talk later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Just Jack said: And the quitter. Vontae Davis on the wall of fame? That's a fairly low bar I'd have thought. Perhaps the Hall of Shame would be more appropriate. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 57 minutes ago, Utah John said: It did happen. https://www.buffalobills.com/team/alumni/wall-of-fame Can’t believe I forgot that. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 7 hours ago, Rico said: Well, Ruben Brown isn't on there. That's not the one I'm thinking of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 The ones I'd like to see, in order: 1) Butch Byrd (5x AFL all star, 3x first team all AFL, 2x second team all AFL, AFL all time second team, franchise record in INT's with 40, Int return yards with 666, and int returns for TD's with 5). 2) Eric Moulds (3x pro bowler, 2x second team all pro, first Bills receiver to amass 100 receptions in a season, 2nd all time Bills receiver for yards, TD's, and receptions). 3) Kyle Williams (6x pro bowler, 1x second team all pro, franchise record in career TFL's with 103 and QB hits at 141, although these stats were not tracked in the days of Bruce Smith and other Bills greats of the past). 4 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Gugny said: Get rid of the murderer. Speaking of that, I saw a guy at my gym today wearing a genuine NFL Henry Ruggs III jersey. Why would he do that, especially after having just plead guilty? Like, would you even be allowed in Highmark wearing a Simpson jersey? Also, for the heck of it, I googled Ruggs and Simpson jerseys, and they are still for sale. Some even for $70-$90. WTF? Edited May 15, 2023 by chongli 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preds Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Utah John said: It did happen. https://www.buffalobills.com/team/alumni/wall-of-fame Looking at that link, anyone else notice something just a tad off with Kent Hull, both on the main page and the player page? https://www.buffalobills.com/team/alumni/wall-of-fame-profiles/kent-hull Kent Hull, Corner #67 (2002 Inductee) Pretty sad editing to miss that twice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Fred Jackson 3 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 44 minutes ago, chongli said: Speaking of that, I saw a guy at my gym today wearing a genuine NFL Henry Ruggs III jersey. Why would he do that, especially after having just plead guilty? Like, would you even be allowed in Highmark wearing a Simpson jersey? Also, for the heck of it, I googled Ruggs and Simpson jerseys, and they are still for sale. Some even for $70-$90. WTF? They do. I've seen people in my section wearing a Simpson jersey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 45 minutes ago, chongli said: Also, for the heck of it, I googled Ruggs and Simpson jerseys, and they are still for sale. Some even for $70-$90. WTF? People buy paraphernalia associated with people way worse than that and pay way more for it. Some of them wear in in public too. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 13 hours ago, Just Jack said: And the quitter. Josh Allen hasn’t even retired! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Gugny said: Josh Allen hasn’t even retired! Well if you found out the night before a big event at work that you knocked up the bartender you'd quit too! Edited May 15, 2023 by Mike in Horseheads 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 I am sure if it was going to happen that it would have been announced by now, but I was really hoping a Bills HoF was going to be built as part of the stadium project. 😞 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 I wonder if they will retire Andre's #83. I always thought the core of 4 from the Super Bowl teams were 12,34,78, and 83. Andre should join Jim, Thurman, and Bruce and have his number retired. 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: He was never charged: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YITZV4Ud6pw Ban hammer. For life. And our ears. 🤨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Slim pickings since we mostly sucked for nearly 2 decades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 21 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Bennett was a MUCH better player than a few guys from that era that made it up there. With that being said, maybe the off the field issues have prevented him from going up? There are a bunch of others that belong: Moulds, Ruben Brown, Kyle Williams for sure. You could make arguments for a lot of others. I always use the “Jim Richter scale” to determine the worthiness. He was a decent player but not WOF-worthy. This current era has more guys that will go: Allen, McDermott, Diggs, Hyde?, Poyer?, Milano?, Tre? When the "off field issues" include multiple violent sexual assaults, that may have something to do with it. I don't know if he has turned his life around, but Bennett was a vile person in his playing days. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 10 hours ago, StHustle said: Fred Jackson Fred was a great person and a good player. He was a bright spot during some really rough years. But I think he is wildly overrated by most Bills fans. *Guess who had a higher yards per carry average for their Bills career, Devin Singletary or Fred Jackson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag20 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 21 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Marv killed a guy? That escalated quickly. Wait, did Marv kill Sir Andrew? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 22 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: There are a bunch of others that belong: Moulds, Ruben Brown, Kyle Williams for sure. You could make arguments for a lot of others. I always use the “Jim Richter scale” to determine the worthiness. Who is Jim Richter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: Fred was a great person and a good player. He was a bright spot during some really rough years. But I think he is wildly overrated by most Bills fans. *Guess who had a higher yards per carry average for their Bills career, Devin Singletary or Fred Jackson? I guess you can count me among the people who overrate Fred. With the likes of Trent Edwards, JP Losman, Kyle Orton, and EJ Manuel handing him the ball, Fred didn't see a lot of defenses selling out to stop the pass. Fred played for really bad teams often behind woefully bad OLs and still produced. Somebody can fact-check me, but I think one year Fred led the NFL in yards after contact. He got a lot done without a lot of help. Sometimes when I watched him play, I thought he could have been a HOFer if he had played with the Bills during the late 80s/early 90s instead of Thurm. *Guess who had a higher yards per carry average for their Bills career, Fred Jackson or Thurman Thomas? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 23 hours ago, BillsPride12 said: It's been awhile since they have added anybody and with only 3 more years left at the current stadium it wouldn't surprise me if that were the case but does anybody know if they ever made an official comment or statement on this? My only gripe would be that Cornelius Bennett never made it on there....an important pillar of the Super Bowl teams. Just in general, I don’t see a reason why they couldn’t add 1 or 2 more to the wall. I don’t think the new stadium construction is impeding that in any way - everyone (except maybe OJ) is going to be transferred over to that building anyways. As far as names, Bennett is a good choice. Kyle Williams and Eric Moulds should get serious consideration as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Maybe the Pegulas should form a committee that reviews the entire Wall of Fame for the new stadium. Give them the opportunity to delete some players and add others. Start fresh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 25 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Who is Jim Richter? Airline pilot for American Airlines. A guard who was on the Bills for over a decade, all 4 super bowls and is on the Bills Wall of Fame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: Maybe the Pegulas should form a committee that reviews the entire Wall of Fame for the new stadium. Give them the opportunity to delete some players and add others. Start fresh. That committee has already been formed. Consists of entirely TBD-TSW members. Picture from the last meeting: 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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