Homer Radio

[Wayne Arnold]

1 minute ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

I dont see them getting better by keeping everyone.  There are arguments to be made for both of those opinions 

 

I can see Dorsey getting better. The scheme he comes in with and the playcalling. And his job will be that much easier if Beane gets his head out of his ass and improves the OLine and WR's 2-5.

 

Defense I don't care as much about but I still have hope in the young DE's. Oliver is back for one more year to prove himself. Da'quan Jones was a beast all season and was missed tremendously on Sunday. Von Miller and Tre White could be premier players again. Hyde is back with the young DB's (Elam, Benford).

 

Key to the season is the offense and as long as the aforementioned defensive players are able to get back to where they used to be or reach their potential this team has what it takes to win it all without any coaching changes.

[The Firebaugh Kid]

They continue to push this narrative, and although I have empathy......this is what they work for ALL SEASON.

You can easily spin the Damar situation into a motivational one (win it for 3).

 

 

[HOUSE]

Lol, it was to many penalties,  no pass rush, poor offensive line play, no real running game and generally a poor effort by nearly everyone 

 

[Franco_92]

31 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said:

I'd argue New Orleans had it worse during Katrina and prevailed.

I've seen this sentiment more than once. Why do people think the saints won the SB after Katrina? The Saints were terrible that season. Their super bowl victory was 4.5 years after the hurricane hit lol

[Low Positive]

Just now, arcane said:

I've seen this sentiment more than once. Why do people think the saints won the SB after Katrina? The Saints were terrible that season. Their super bowl victory was 4.5 years after the hurricane hit lol

File this under "never let facts get in the way of a good narrative."

[Wayne Arnold]

2 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

They continue to push this narrative, and although I have empathy......this is what they work for ALL SEASON.

You can easily spin the Damar situation into a motivational one (win it for 3).

 

"Easily"

 

Maybe for a week or two. Beyond that, it loses its luster.

 

I think having Hamlin there on Sunday backfired and the players saw it as a spectacle. In fact, seeing how they played, it likely brought them back mentally to where they were when Hamlin was fighting for his life.

[Andy1]

Change can come from outside the organization or from within. I think Dorsey is in over his head. However I recognize that he can grow and get better as a coordinator. Josh also needs to take some ownership here too and improve his decision making. I don’t see McDermott firing either coordinator. So that only leaves us fans to hope for growth and change from within.

Will they change? I guess we will find out at the draft. 
 

[mannc]

55 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

We lost to arguably an equally as good QB , Mahomes and Burrow arent headed anywhere for a long time.  Might as well accept reality.

 

Trent Edwards and Losman never sniffed the playoffs.

 

But if bitching about it makes you feel better go ahead.

That's an odd way to look at it.  Given that the Bills have their own superstar QB, don't you want a coaching staff and GM who will figure out a way to beat the Chiefs and Bengals instead of coming up short every time?  Sounds like you're good with an early playoff exit every year, since those other QBs are really good...

[4th&long]

Dorsey will be back to run his version of the Chuck and duck offense. Good lord!

[RoyBatty is alive]

1 minute ago, mannc said:

That's an odd way to look at it.  Given that the Bills have their own superstar QB, don't you want a coaching staff and GM who will figure out a way to beat the Chiefs and Bengals instead of coming up short every time?  Sounds like you're good with an early playoff exit every year, since those other QBs are really good...

No I am not "good" with an early playoff exit every year.

[BillsFan692]

Just now, RoyBatty is alive said:

No I am not "good" with an early playoff exit every year.

But you are good with the status quo

[RoyBatty is alive]

4 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said:

But you are good with the status quo

Did I write that, no, so dont put words in my mouth.

 

But I am not in this almost over emotional mob like driven frenzy to fire people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 25, 2023 by RoyBatty is alive

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

1 hour ago, BillsFan692 said:

If you cant admit your deficiencies you cannot grow. You cannot learn. You cannot advance.

 

Thats how i feel about this entire regime the last 3 seasons. It feels like they learn nothing, admit no wrongs, make little changes.

Well said!

31 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

Dorsey will be back to run his version of the Chuck and duck offense. Good lord!

4 verts and Josh on the playground with the defense counting to 2 Mississippis

[RyanC883]

1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

We lost to arguably an equally as good QB , Mahomes and Burrow arent headed anywhere for a long time.  Might as well accept reality.

 

Trent Edwards and Losman never sniffed the playoffs.

 

But if bitching about it makes you feel better go ahead.

 

why do you even watch.  You enjoy playoff participation trophies?  The reality is we had and have a chance, but this GM who blows picks unlike Cincy and KC’s; and coach who says he “learns” and keeps playing the same crap D will not lead us anywhere.  

30 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Did I write that, no, so dont put words in my mouth.

 

But I am not in this almost over emotional mob like driven frenzy to fire people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the implication is that you are okay with the status quo.  If not, offer some ideas beyond whatever your “accept reality” comment was

[BarleyNY]

1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

"Easily"

 

Maybe for a week or two. Beyond that, it loses its luster.

 

I think having Hamlin there on Sunday backfired and the players saw it as a spectacle. In fact, seeing how they played, it likely brought them back mentally to where they were when Hamlin was fighting for his life.

I think the use of (or at least the appearance of) Hamlin as motivation for the Bills might’ve pissed off the Bengals. They were there and saw him almost die too. They also refused to play that night and they paid a price for that by not getting their shot at a better seed. 

[<bills4life>]

49 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Did I write that, no, so dont put words in my mouth.

 

But I am not in this almost over emotional mob like driven frenzy to fire people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

No.  Am emotional response would be hanging on to someone because you like them and and are willing to dismiss deficiencies out of blind loyalty or  an unwillingness to hold people responsible for fear of offending someone. A business decision would be holding someone accountable and potentially firing someone due to maintaining the status quo or not meeting set goals or expectations over a period time. 

[Sharky7337]

1 hour ago, Jrb1979 said:

What's worse is listening to Sal and Nate this morning. They don't even work for the Bills. Very rare do you hear them give an criticism to the Bills. 

Or them saying "josh allen doesn't throw to running backs" and like talking to callers like it is some ludicrous idea to use what you traded for.

[mannc]

1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Cover 1 also acknowledges how much the metrics loved the Bills this season. That the pythagorean winning percentage chart showed that they were actually better than their 13-3 record. They also dealt with a *****-ton of adversity this season.

 

It sucks that they played their worst game of the season in the playoffs but I don't see things getting better by firing everyone.

How do you think this team gets past the Bengals and Chiefs next year (not to mention the Jets and Dolphins)?  Do you thinks McDermott will get smarter?  That Dorsey will figure out how to scheme up a running game and short passing plays?  That Beane will suddenly draft a bunch of plug and play offensive linemen?  Epenesa and Basham somehow leap from replacement level players to stars?  

[BarleyNY]

2 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

We have turned into Pats nation, the fans and media are upset because they lost in the divisional round.  We used to celebrate when we barely inched into the playoffs.

Let’s take a minute and think back to the off-season. We should really give a piece of our minds to the people setting those lofty expectations with such certainty. Who were they again?

[Steptide]

I said the night of the mnf game against Cincinnati that if the bills didn't win another game this season, I wouldn't be mad. In the moment that was absolutely true, and even now it's like 70% true. While I'm dissapointed the bills lost and the season is over, that whole thing was just a huge distraction, and I don't say that insensitively. It totally threw the bills off their routine. The national exposure was immense and all we heard about for 2 weeks. I believe that played a part in them losing this past week, but I also think the bills just had a terrible game plan

Edited January 25, 2023 by Steptide

[krf139]

I just love the weekly “Maddy Awards.” Such a productive use of air time.

[benderbender]

If we were so obviously gassed and mentally exhausted, who is the cheapskate who didn’t pony up the dough for a motivational speaker? 

Tony Robbins was busy? The real estate twins already booked? 

[RoyBatty is alive]

35 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Let’s take a minute and think back to the off-season. We should really give a piece of our minds to the people setting those lofty expectations with such certainty. Who were they again?

Yes ,  I can’t disagree at all and I was one of them although I  never articulated it  here, I saw no point in putting more hype in an overhyped situation.

[ChrisWatson#21]

2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

Does this mean no changes to the coaches? 

We are stuck with them.

[Boatdrinks]

3 hours ago, FrenchConnection said:

Remember,  Steve Tasker and Chris Brown are both employed by the Buffalo Bills not the radio station.

Exactly . Again , what do fans expect to hear from these team employees ?

Any criticism from them will be mild and external factors will be emphasized. Go elsewhere for more critical content. 

32 minutes ago, benderbender said:

If we were so obviously gassed and mentally exhausted, who is the cheapskate who didn’t pony up the dough for a motivational speaker? 

Tony Robbins was busy? The real estate twins already booked? 

Coulda used Matt Foley…

[Nextmanup]

2 hours ago, Andy1 said:

Watch examples of film breakdown on Cover 1. Cinci knew what we were doing and game planned against it. Bad coaching decisions on defense. Bills defense thought they knew what Bengals offense was doing but Cinci switched their tendencies. No creativity on offense to counter the pressure Josh was under. Repeated failures on the O line. All of that is on coaches and personnel decisions by Bean. 
 

Blaming the loss on lack of energy and the stess of the season is a cop out and will not prevent the problem from recurring in the future.

All very true! 

 

It's like the chicken and egg problem.  What came first?

 

If we had superior coaching and were in control of the game, I think a lot of enthusiasm and energy in the players would have followed.

 

We were BADLY out-coached both sides of the ball.

 

I used to think we had to find a way past KC to get to the SB.

Now I realize we have to get past Cincinnati even moreso!  

We are a VERY BAD matchup against that team! 

 

 

[mannc]

1 minute ago, Nextmanup said:

All very true! 

 

It's like the chicken and egg problem.  What came first?

 

If we had superior coaching and were in control of the game, I think a lot of enthusiasm and energy in the players would have followed.

 

We were BADLY out-coached both sides of the ball.

 

I used to think we had to find a way past KC to get to the SB.

Now I realize we have to get past Cincinnati even moreso!  

We are a VERY BAD matchup against that team! 

 

 

Agreed.  Chiefs don't match up well with them either.  I expect the Bengals to smash the Chiefs on Sunday.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

3 hours ago, mannc said:

And is there any question that the Monday Night Bengals game would have ended the same way (or even worse) if the game had been played to its conclusion? 

I’m sure there is question, but it felt like the same momentum to me that we saw last Sunday… without that Hamlin injury it felt certain Bengals were on their way to going up 14-3.

[Jrb1979]

13 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Exactly . Again , what do fans expect to hear from these team employees ?

Any criticism from them will be mild and external factors will be emphasized. Go elsewhere for more critical content. 

 

I will agree with that. What I don't get is how Sal is the same way. He's not a team employee but in his eyes the Bills do no wrong. 

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

3 hours ago, GolfandBills said:

That beatdown was a long time coming.  They finally played a good team and got pounded 

 

 So KC isn't a good team? Baltimore was playing well also before Lamar got hurt. How about Miami, pre concussion Tua, their offense was on fire, but the defense played well in that, down half their starters and 4 out of their 5 starters in the secondary.

 

 Injures to our best defensive players and then add Damars injury to the mix. It all took too big of a toll on this team. The amount of defensive talent that was either out or playing with clear limitations was huge on Sunday. Playing against one of the best QBs and the best WR trio in the league. The defense the final 11 games(Inc. playoffs) was a shell of the team that fielded the best defense in the first 7 games. That #1 ranking was against some good teams with good talent.

 

 

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

2 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

I will agree with that. What I don't get is how Sal is the same way. He's not a team employee but in his eyes the Bills do no wrong. 

He is a team emoyee. He’s the sideline reporter and travels with the team from what I understand. He is definitely measured in his criticism but not as bad as Tasker and Brown imo

Edited January 25, 2023 by Boatdrinks

[Billl]

57 minutes ago, mannc said:

How do you think this team gets past the Bengals and Chiefs next year (not to mention the Jets and Dolphins)?  Do you thinks McDermott will get smarter?  That Dorsey will figure out how to scheme up a running game and short passing plays?  That Beane will suddenly draft a bunch of plug and play offensive linemen?  Epenesa and Basham somehow leap from replacement level players to stars?  

In Dorsey’s first season, he coordinated one of the best offenses in football.  Frasier has consistently coordinated one of the top scoring defenses.  Beane hasn’t drafted a pro bowl player in 4 years.  One of these things is not like the other.

 

To the extent that fingers need to be pointed after a great season that ended with a loss to a more talented team, they should be pointed at Beane.  He’s done a lot of really good things, but his drafts since 2018 have sucked out loud.

[Jrb1979]

Just now, Boatdrinks said:

He is a team emoyee. He’s the sideline reporter and travels with the team from what I understand. 

Compare that to Sabres live with 2 people who work for the Sabres. They have no problem criticizing the team when warranted. 

[mannc]

3 minutes ago, Billl said:

In Dorsey’s first season, he coordinated one of the best offenses in football.  Frasier has consistently coordinated one of the top scoring defenses.  Beane hasn’t drafted a pro bowl player in 4 years.  One of these things is not like the other.

 

To the extent that fingers need to be pointed after a great season that ended with a loss to a more talented team, they should be pointed at Beane.  He’s done a lot of really good things, but his drafts since 2018 have sucked out loud.

I think it’s both. Have to say, though, Beane looked very defensive in his presser. He’s definitely feeling some pressure, and rightfully so.

Edited January 25, 2023 by mannc

[GolfandBills]

7 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

 So KC isn't a good team? Baltimore was playing well also before Lamar got hurt. How about Miami, pre concussion Tua, their offense was on fire, but the defense played well in that, down half their starters and 4 out of their 5 starters in the secondary.

 

 Injures to our best defensive players and then add Damars injury to the mix. It all took too big of a toll on this team. The amount of defensive talent that was either out or playing with clear limitations was huge on Sunday. Playing against one of the best QBs and the best WR trio in the league. The defense the final 11 games(Inc. playoffs) was a shell of the team that fielded the best defense in the first 7 games. That #1 ranking was against some good teams with good talent.

 

 

 

 

Pretty much the entire second half of the season they looked off.  That’s what I’m talking about.  Scraping by teams that had no business being in the game, the Viking debacle.  Just a lot of sloppy play down the stretch.  Nobody should be shocked with what happened last Sunday 

Edited January 25, 2023 by GolfandBills

[Boatdrinks]

3 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

Compare that to Sabres live with 2 people who work for the Sabres. They have no problem criticizing the team when warranted. 

Not sure the reason for the contrast , but definitely noticeable if you’ve given more than a few casual listens. 

[Jauronimo]

58 minutes ago, krf139 said:

I just love the weekly “Maddy Awards.” Such a productive use of air time.

If you're listening to WGR all day (even though you hate it) then we will hard pressed to find anything that is NOT worth your time.  

4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Not sure the reason for the contrast , but definitely noticeable if you’ve given more than a few casual listens. 

The contrast may be one team has been a super bowl contender by a consensus of critics and the other team has the league's longest active playoff drought streak. 

[BarleyNY]

4 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Yes ,  I can’t disagree at all and I was one of them although I  never articulated it  here, I saw no point in putting more hype in an overhyped situation.

I’m sorry. I did not mean to make it seem like I was calling you or any other poster out. I was referring McDermott and Beane. They did a lot of talking to set expectations of a championship - or at least something very close to that. This was not long after the coaching mistakes at the end of the 13 seconds game.

 

They crowed this off-season about how the Bills were a championship level team. Then in the playoffs we got a 3 point win over a Skyler Thompson led Dolphins team followed by a curb stomping by a Bengals team. In that game we got out-coached, out-played and out-hustled. They set the expectations and seemed happy to enjoy the accolades and praise all season. Now they can take the criticism for failing (again) in the playoffs and falling so short of them. 

[buffblue]

3 hours ago, BillsFan692 said:

They are trying to tell us our coaches and coordinators are fine and actually it was just the damar hamlin injury that derailed the season.

 

I want to reach through my headphone and punch steve tasker in the face right now lol

 

 

Beyond twisting his words constantly, the guy is an absolute buffoon as an analyst. He is so bad 

[Albany,n.y.]

4 hours ago, BillsFan692 said:

They are trying to tell us our coaches and coordinators are fine and actually it was just the damar hamlin injury that derailed the season.

 

I want to reach through my headphone and punch steve tasker in the face right now lol

 

 

Time for enrollment in anger management.