BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35482620/dolphins-fire-dc-josh-boyer-three-seasons?platform=amp I can see them going after Vic Fangio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Not surprising. He blitz too much. That was his only move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Scott7975 said: Not surprising. He blitz too much. That was his only move. Maybe this, but he was also never McDaniel's guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) This is insane to me. They always had the Bills offense on a struggle bus. Even when the Bills were moving and scoring it felt like they were using everything got to do so. Is he aggressive with his blitzing? Absolutely. But it worked IMO Edited January 19, 2023 by appoo 5 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, appoo said: This is insane to me. They always had the Bills offense on a struggle bus. Even when the Bills were moving and scoring it felt like they were using everything got to do so. Is he aggressive with his blitzing? Absolutely. But it worked IMO It didnt work. The Bills lost one game against them since Josh Allen. We should have won that game too. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, appoo said: This is insane to me. They always had the Bills offense on a struggle bus. Even when the Bills were moving and scoring it felt like they were using everything got to do so. Is he aggressive with his blitzing? Absolutely. But it worked IMO It worked against the BIlls, but not many other teams. They were 24th in points allowed, 18th in yards allowed, and 30th in turnovers forced. And that's a unit with real talent. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: It worked against the BIlls, but not many other teams. They were 24th in points allowed, 18th in yards allowed, and 30th in turnovers forced. And that's a unit with real talent. fair enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 26 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35482620/dolphins-fire-dc-josh-boyer-three-seasons?platform=amp I can see them going after Vic Fangio https://www.nfl.com/news/dolphins-fire-josh-boyer-after-three-seasons-as-defensive-coordinator I got to say, he had something for the Bills. 5 of Allen's 9 strip sack fumbles and 3 of his 4 strip sack lost fumbles were vs. Miami 17 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: It worked against the BIlls, but not many other teams. They were 24th in points allowed, 18th in yards allowed, and 30th in turnovers forced. And that's a unit with real talent. A valid point. I hope they shred his gameplans for the Bills then 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 He obviously didn’t see the bombs away festival coming and for that he lost his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: It didnt work. The Bills lost one game against them since Josh Allen. We should have won that game too. 2 actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Beck Water said: https://www.nfl.com/news/dolphins-fire-josh-boyer-after-three-seasons-as-defensive-coordinator I got to say, he had something for the Bills. 5 of Allen's 9 strip sack fumbles and 3 of his 4 strip sack lost fumbles were vs. Miami A valid point. I hope they shred his gameplans for the Bills then 😃 Because they blitzed more than anyone else sending everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Now McDaniel gets to pick his own guy to be DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just now, H2o said: Now McDaniel gets to pick his own guy to be DC. Vic Fangio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said: Vic Fangio. How did we do against Denver in 2020 with his great D? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: 2 actually. Ah you right. rookie year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Big Turk said: How did we do against Denver in 2020 with his great D? That’s why said Vic Fangio lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 57 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: He obviously didn’t see the bombs away festival coming and for that he lost his job. No because he took what was a top 5 ranked defense and had them finish 27th overall. With all that talent on the defense they shouldn’t have been as bad as they were this season overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Reuniting with Flores in Arizona? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Failed to get that elusive 8th sack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 he got the most out of his unit against the Bills. it was actually impressive. I am pleasantly surprised by this 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Reuniting with Flores in Arizona? No, Flores alienated his whole staff last year by refusing to talk to anyone. He burned a lot of bridges which has me surprised that Arizona is showing Interest for him being their HC. With his reputation idk who would want to work with him 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: No because he took what was a top 5 ranked defense and had them finish 27th overall. With all that talent on the defense they shouldn’t have been as bad as they were this season overall. Oh sure, pick the more obvious explanation! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Scott7975 said: Not surprising. He blitz too much. That was his only move. That could be a serious shock to our hearts!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: he got the most out of his unit against the Bills. it was actually impressive. I am pleasantly surprised by this I mean I can understand why they fired him. Miami’s defense last season finished as a top 5 unit but Boyer brought them down to 27th ranked overall this year. No way that defense should’ve been as bad as they were this season especially with all the talent they had and adding Chubb from Denver in a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, appoo said: This is insane to me. They always had the Bills offense on a struggle bus. Even when the Bills were moving and scoring it felt like they were using everything got to do so. Is he aggressive with his blitzing? Absolutely. But it worked IMO It did? The Bills offense has appeared to be on the struggle bus against several teams this year (despite still ending up scoring points). It also turns out that despite playing them 3 times this year that most of Miami's games weren't against the Bills and Miami's defense was an issue in many of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, appoo said: This is insane to me. They always had the Bills offense on a struggle bus. Even when the Bills were moving and scoring it felt like they were using everything got to do so. Is he aggressive with his blitzing? Absolutely. But it worked IMO It really didn't work. Putting the Bills through some frustrating moments didn't equate to us not moving the ball or scoring points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, appoo said: This is insane to me. They always had the Bills offense on a struggle bus. Even when the Bills were moving and scoring it felt like they were using everything got to do so. Is he aggressive with his blitzing? Absolutely. But it worked IMO They struggled to four touchdowns and two field goals after turning the ball over three times? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35482620/dolphins-fire-dc-josh-boyer-three-seasons?platform=amp I can see them going after Vic Fangio I kind of admire Boyer and don’t think he’s a terrible DC. He knew he was cooked when he played the Bills yesterday so he threw everything he could at Josh. The turnovers helped Miami stay close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, JohnNord said: I kind of admire Boyer and don’t think he’s a terrible DC. He knew he was cooked when he played the Bills yesterday so he threw everything he could at Josh. The turnovers helped Miami stay close. I was watching the game and thinking out loud saying where did this defense come from?? Why hasn’t Miami’s defense played like this all season? But that makes sense though kind of a last hurrah for Boyer who himself knows he’s a dead man walking after their season is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, appoo said: This is insane to me. They always had the Bills offense on a struggle bus. Even when the Bills were moving and scoring it felt like they were using everything got to do so. Is he aggressive with his blitzing? Absolutely. But it worked IMO It worked against Buffalo a couple of times. Overall it fails miserably and did on Sunday. He is awful. Sad they fired him. To be where they are in defense with the talent they have on that side of the ball is criminal. Thank heavens Schwartz is already off the market. Their personnel is darn near perfect for him. 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: I was watching the game and thinking out loud saying where did this defense come from?? Why hasn’t Miami’s defense played like this all season? But that makes sense though kind of a last hurrah for Boyer who himself knows he’s a dead man walking after their season is over. It has played like that all season. Most teams carve it up. It was more effective Sunday because the Bills only answer to heavy blitz, cover 0 was throw deep. Edited January 19, 2023 by GunnerBill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: It worked against Buffalo a couple of times. Overall it fails miserably. He is awful. Sad they fired him. To be where they are in defense with the talent they have on that side of the ball is criminal. Thank heavens Schwartz is already off the market. Their personnel is darn near perfect for him. Not necessarily,Jim runs a 4-3 scheme while Miami’s defense is a 3-4. Majority of players on their defense are 3-4 players. Fangio is probably their best bet or they might target the DC in Denver since they’re gonna fire that whole staff Edited January 19, 2023 by BuffaloBills1998 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said: Not necessarily,Jim runs a 4-3 scheme while Miami’s defense is a 3-4. Majority of players on their defense are 3-4 players Nah. Phillips would be a good 4-3 end, Chubb would be better in that system as a wide 9 rusher where he is just told to get after the passer, Wilkins is crying out to be let loose as a 3T rathet than having to two gap. Their DBs are perfect fits for Schwartz's press bail on the outside. They'd need a middle linebacker. But that apart they could roll this personnel out in a Schwartz D and be excellent quickly IMO. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Dolphins in full Off season mode. Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 45 minutes ago, Gugny said: They struggled to four touchdowns and two field goals after turning the ball over three times? I suppose one could argue that their D generated three takeaways and scored a TD. But really, none of those were great defensive plays - they were offensive blunders: a miscommunication on a route, a perfect pass that bounced off the receiver's chest and into the hands of a defender, and a free rusher causing a strip sack. (On the strip, Romo said Josh missed the hot route to Motor, but I thought Motor should have blocked the guy.) By all rights, the Bills should have put up more than 50 points on that D. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Nah. Phillips would be a good 4-3 end, Chubb would be better in that system as a wide 9 rusher where he is just told to get after the passer, Wilkins is crying out to be let loose as a 3T rathet than having to two gap. Their DBs are perfect fits for Schwartz's press bail on the outside. They'd need a middle linebacker. But that apart they could roll this personnel out in a Schwartz D and be excellent quickly IMO. You could be right but honestly I think Miami sticks out the 3-4 scheme and finds a 3-4 DC the only ones their for now are both Fangio and the DC from Hackett’s staff in Denver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Damn, it looks like the Dolphins aren't listening to Nick Wright, Colin Cowherd and all the other experts saying how bad Allen and the Bills offense were on Sunday. I mean if we go by them the Dolphins should be giving their D coordinator a raise and not the boot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: You could be right but honestly I think Miami sticks out the 3-4 scheme and finds a 3-4 DC the only ones their for now are both Fangio and the DC from Hackett’s staff in Denver Fangio is a top defensive coordinator I have no doubt he'd make their personnel work too. Otherwise to me they have a lot of 4-3 guys crying out for a scheme change. The other guy who makes some sense to me might be Pet. He is a hybrid 3-4/4-3 guy. McDaniel was on his staff a year in Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) Dolphins are bringing in Tom Brady. He will coordinate the defense while the Miami offense is on the sidelines. There is nothing he cannot do. * 😉 Edited January 20, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Not surprising. He blitz too much. That was his only move. But I thought CC said they outcoached us ?? 7 sacks .. Bills would have put up 45 if not for the Knox and Shakir drops.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 4 hours ago, appoo said: This is insane to me. They always had the Bills offense on a struggle bus. Even when the Bills were moving and scoring it felt like they were using everything got to do so. Is he aggressive with his blitzing? Absolutely. But it worked IMO This year it worked. Prior to this year Josh Allen was Miami's daddy for some time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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