stlbills13 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 What is the advantage of opening his practice window if there is no real chance he plays? Sure it's important for him to get some practice reps in as soon as he can which will help next year but I feel like any practice reps he takes away from guys like Marlowe, Madsen, etc are more detrimental to the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Hyde said the injury is 100% healed. No idea. Sean and his flat, emotionless face as he delivers this news. Any other time he plays things to the vest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Just now, stlbills13 said: What is the advantage of opening his practice window if there is no real chance he plays? Sure it's important for him to get some practice reps in as soon as he can which will help next year but I feel like any practice reps he takes away from guys like Marlowe, Madsen, etc are more detrimental to the team What is the disadvantage? Hyde practicing on scout team doesn’t change anything for the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, stlbills13 said: What is the advantage of opening his practice window if there is no real chance he plays? Sure it's important for him to get some practice reps in as soon as he can which will help next year but I feel like any practice reps he takes away from guys like Marlowe, Madsen, etc are more detrimental to the team They must feel there is a chance he plays 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Smokescreen for what reason? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: What is the disadvantage? Hyde practicing on scout team doesn’t change anything for the Bills. Yeah the idea of a scout team totally slipped my mind. My bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 I figured Buffalo fans would be experts on disc fusion after the Jack Eichel situation. Eichel was going to be out a minimum of 6 months. That’s what all the experts said that spoke about Eichel. Hyde had the exact same surgery Eichel didn’t want to have due to recovery time among other reasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I figured Buffalo fans would be experts on disc fusion after the Jack Eichel situation. Eichel was going to be out a minimum of 6 months. That’s what all the experts said that spoke about Eichel. Hyde had the exact same surgery Eichel didn’t want to have due to recovery time among other reasons. Who is this, "Eichel", as you call him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udubalum07 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 There is plenty of practice time between the end of this year and the start of the next season. The only reason to have him practice would be to bring him back at some point. Unfortunately, we are closer to the three week mark, but they probably want to knock the rust off in practice and take some lumps there then throwing him into a playoff game. Even with as much football as he had played, there is going to be some rust to work through. The feel for the game can take a few weeks. That would be where the concern is right now, if he's 100 percent physically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Udubalum07 said: There is plenty of practice time between the end of this year and the start of the next season. The only reason to have him practice would be to bring him back at some point. Unfortunately, we are closer to the three week mark, but they probably want to knock the rust off in practice and take some lumps there then throwing him into a playoff game. Even with as much football as he had played, there is going to be some rust to work through. The feel for the game can take a few weeks. That would be where the concern is right now, if he's 100 percent physically. If he takes the non contact jersey off at some point it's about to be on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Bengals scouts watching Dean Marlowe chase around Tyreek, Waddle, and Jeff Wilson - definitely game planning to exploit this next week - Hyde is probably out… *Saturday January 21 @ 4pm* “Bills have Activated Micah Hyde.” 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 They worked White, Brown, and Bease in slow, no reason to think they wouldn’t do the same with Hyde. I wasn’t expecting him prior to any of the championship games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Udubalum07 said: There is plenty of practice time between the end of this year and the start of the next season. The only reason to have him practice would be to bring him back at some point. Unfortunately, we are closer to the three week mark, but they probably want to knock the rust off in practice and take some lumps there then throwing him into a playoff game. Even with as much football as he had played, there is going to be some rust to work through. The feel for the game can take a few weeks. That would be where the concern is right now, if he's 100 percent physically. His doctor hasn’t cleared him yet. Hyde could just want to practice with the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 That really sucks. We need Hyde against the Bengals. Go Ravens I guess 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Need him for the Bengals. Defy the odds you sonofagun! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: They worked White, Brown, and Bease in slow, no reason to think they wouldn’t do the same with Hyde. I wasn’t expecting him prior to any of the championship games. if Hyde doesn't play next week, Burrow is going for 400. If we can't disguise coverages, top QB's are going to shred this secondary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: That really sucks. We need Hyde against the Bengals. Go Ravens I guess Please, Virgil. Just like "we needed White" against KC in the playoffs last year and that still wor...Oh ****. Yeah, I am officially queasy over this. A crap load of points are needed from our O next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: His doctor hasn’t cleared him yet. Hyde could just want to practice with the team. Is this true? I haven't read that anywhere and it doesn't make sense that he's practicing if he's not cleared by his doc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Lol. He knows he’ll be out next week but after that he doesn’t know. Suuuuuuure Coach. Sure. Let’s take care of business this week first. Taking nothing for granted. Absolutely nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Is this true? I haven't read that anywhere and it doesn't make sense that he's practicing if he's not cleared by his doc. He's had the red non-contract jersey on for this weeks practice. In his interview he said the trainer has been pushing him in the weight room, and he stays afterwards to do 100-lunges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Who is this, "Eichel", as you call him? That's a dead name for a former hockey savior 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 this is BULL. Why was he ruled out of the WC the other day and now suddenly ruled out for next week too? Why not just say he's week to week and we'll see 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Big Turk said: They must feel there is a chance he plays I think the AFCCG is realistic. See how he feels after a couple more weeks of practice. Edited January 13, 2023 by LABILLBACKER 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) And before some of you wise-***es jump all over us for being a little bit gloom and doom about both Hyde and Hamlin not be able to play next week against Higgins, Chase and Boyd go do a little history research and take a look at what the defensemen injury bugaboo did to the 2005-06 Buffalo Sabres and the almost dream season. A freaking Stanley Cup winning silver platter which the Sabres current GM knows about all too well as he benefited greatly from it. Edited January 13, 2023 by dollars 2 donuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, stlbills13 said: What is the advantage of opening his practice window if there is no real chance he plays? Sure it's important for him to get some practice reps in as soon as he can which will help next year but I feel like any practice reps he takes away from guys like Marlowe, Madsen, etc are more detrimental to the team Guys, it's a 21-day practice window for a reason. Players who have been on IR have a legit need to work their bodies back into football shape. That's real, just the impacts these guys take landing on the ground and rolling and getting up again when they aren't actually smashing into someone or being smashed takes some adjustment. I haven't talked to a football player about this, we have some guys here who played they can confirm or deny. The closest analogy I have is a friend who fights in the SCA (society of creative anachronism). That's the medieval recreation group that dons actual re-creation armor and, as he puts it, "hits each other with sticks". He describes how when you start fighting, you get hit and each blow you take, even a non-disaabling blow to your shield, sends a disabling wave of pain through you. As you keep fighting, your perception of "normal" pain shifts and the same blow is accepted by your body as "OK, not a problem" you're able to follow through and maintain your guard and carry on your body control. It even kind of revs you up in a weird way (that's the Josh Allen "I need a little contact") 27 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Is this true? I haven't read that anywhere and it doesn't make sense that he's practicing if he's not cleared by his doc. He's cleared by his docs to practice, wearing a no-contact jersey. He's not cleared to play football. Yet. Edited January 13, 2023 by Beck Water 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: this is BULL. Why was he ruled out of the WC the other day and now suddenly ruled out for next week too? Why not just say he's week to week and we'll see There is probably a chance that McDermott, Hyde and doctors know there is 0 percent chance he plays this season, and that he is practicing simply because he wants too and to help motivate the team. Who knows. Hopefully he is back for the championship games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Just now, Beck Water said: He's cleared by his docs to practice, wearing a no-contact jersey. He's not cleared to play football. Thanks. I hadn't read that anywhere. I was assuming the he was put in the 21 day window since he was completely cleared to play. That's the way the reporting made it seem a few days ago. I knew he'd been wearing the red jersey, but I thought it was just because he was working his way back from the lengthy absence. If he hasn't been cleared for contact, then it seems that placing him in the 21 day activation window was, at best, a Hail Mary by the Bills, and it's really much ado about nothing as for our hopes of seeing him play this postseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Also wish McD had not mentioned this. At least make Cincy think he might play 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Thanks. I hadn't read that anywhere. I was assuming the he was put in the 21 day window since he was completely cleared to play. That's the way the reporting made it seem a few days ago. I knew he'd been wearing the red jersey, but I thought it was just because he was working his way back from the lengthy absence. If he hasn't been cleared for contact, then it seems that placing him in the 21 day activation window was, at best, a Hail Mary by the Bills, and it's really much ado about nothing as for our hopes of seeing him play this postseason. Hyde said it in his interview after his first practice, that "it wasn't up to him if he plays, it's up to his doctors". The only way I can interpret that is they cleared him to practice, not to play at this point. Similar thing to Tre White (though hopefully, not as prolonged); he was cleared to start practicing, not to play. I think it is, in some sense, a Hail Mary. It's saying if we get through the next two games and Poyer (playing on a torn meniscus in his knee) or Dean Marlow can't go, there may be a proven alternative ready to rock. If Hyde doesn't start practicing now, there's no good alternative what with Hamlin out. I may be totally dissing on Jaquan Johnson and Cam Lewis but nothing I've seen leads me to believe they could hold up against a top, multi-dimensional team. Edited January 13, 2023 by Beck Water 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Is this true? I haven't read that anywhere and it doesn't make sense that he's practicing if he's not cleared by his doc. So doing some research it does seem players have returned to play in just 3 months. So Hyde playing in late January isn’t something that has never been done. I thought 6 months minimum. 3 months seems to be the minimum. I stand corrected. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 So Hyde won't play at the 12th day of the 21 day window. But the 19th day of the window he'd be good to go? It's that fine of a line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 53 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Dang. That's some crappy news to start the weekend. Probably the Super Bowl at best based on Sean already ruling him out for the Bengals game. ☹️ Ravens game. I can hope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Guys, it's a 21-day practice window for a reason. Players who have been on IR have a legit need to work their bodies back into football shape. That's real, just the impacts these guys take landing on the ground and rolling and getting up again when they aren't actually smashing into someone or being smashed takes some adjustment. I haven't talked to a football player about this, we have some guys here who played they can confirm or deny. The closest analogy I have is a friend who fights in the SCA (society of creative anachronism). That's the medieval recreation group that dons actual re-creation armor and, as he puts it, "hits each other with sticks". He describes how when you start fighting, you get hit and each blow you take, even a non-disaabling blow to your shield, sends a disabling wave of pain through you. As you keep fighting, your perception of "normal" pain shifts and the same blow is accepted by your body as "OK, not a problem" you're able to follow through and maintain your guard and carry on your body control. It even kind of revs you up in a weird way (that's the Josh Allen "I need a little contact") He's cleared by his docs to practice, wearing a no-contact jersey. He's not cleared to play football. Yet. There isnt a ton of quantifiable medical facts or data to back it up, but anyone who has played a contact sport knows there is a HUGE difference between wind conditioning and hitting/contact conditioning. Hyde could be able to run a marathon right now, but one quarter of hitting with no prior contact will destroy him. It's partly why we see all these injuries (across all teams) now that teams dont hit as much (or at all) through Training Camp and practices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, stlbills13 said: Also wish McD had not mentioned this. At least make Cincy think he might play Why would that change anything for the Bengals? Not like they'd stop throwing the ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Just now, nucci said: Why would that change anything for the Bengals? Not like they'd stop throwing the ball Yeah, a safety isn’t changing a game plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Look, breaking out Hyde in time for KC? I'm in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 34 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: this is BULL. Why was he ruled out of the WC the other day and now suddenly ruled out for next week too? Why not just say he's week to week and we'll see yeah not sure why McDermott would put that info out there so soon. 5 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Look, breaking out Hyde in time for KC? I'm in. Me too, as long as we get to the Championship round against KC in the first place. Having someone like Hyde out there could be the difference between a win and a loss against the Bengals in the divisional round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Beast said: How they handled White? That was White’s decision when he took the field. 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: Different injuries, different players, different situations 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Completely different injuries and people. The point is they seemed to be overly cautious. Maybe this week Hyde practices with the red jersey and maybe they give him another week without it for his body to get used to hitting before rushing into anything. The fact that he is even back practicing shows it's a different situation but the Bills have shown to be more cautious than we would have expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: Ravens game. I can hope. If Baltimore beats Cincinnati and the Bills win on Sunday, they are guaranteed to go to KC in the next round as they will be the lowest remaining seed. The Bills would play the winner of LAC/JAX. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 41 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I haven't talked to a football player about this, we have some guys here who played they can confirm or deny. The closest analogy I have is a friend who fights in the SCA (society of creative anachronism). That's the medieval recreation group that dons actual re-creation armor and, as he puts it, "hits each other with sticks". He describes how when you start fighting, you get hit and each blow you take, even a non-disaabling blow to your shield, sends a disabling wave of pain through you. As you keep fighting, your perception of "normal" pain shifts and the same blow is accepted by your body as "OK, not a problem" you're able to follow through and maintain your guard and carry on your body control. I believe this phenomenon is called “Three Stooges Syndrome” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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