Damar Hamlin - Now (1/11/2023) discharged from Buf Gen & “recovering at home”

[Captain Hindsight]

I really appreciate how much the NFL has gotten behind Damar Hamlin and the Bills. Terrible situation that has shown the good (and bad) of humanity, the NFL and Bills Mafia. 
 

I keep hoping for good news. Certainly all the positive thoughts are there for Damar Hamlin.

 

Thanks TBD community for giving me an outlet for all this. This has been hard to watch and be a fan of the team and game during such a scary time 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

25 minutes ago, North Buffalo said:

While talking to docs in ER where I worked last night they too agreed it was a heart electrical issue brought on by timing of the hit to the chest... from one doc "this is a known risk with all contact sports". 

 

But I wanted to clarify... a vascular injury such an aortic dissection ( where the lining on the inside of aorta pulls away from the aortic wall) or an Aneurysm ( a weakening in the aortic wall) probably would have burst and Hamlin would no longer be with us...

Coronary blockages can cleaned out result heart attacks if not addressed..  Coronary arteries supply oxygenated blood to heart muscle... There are two nodes alongside the heart that control the contractions of the heart and when they get shocked it messes the rhythm up which is likely what happened to Damar... Older folks such as my Dad suffers from AFib and atrial flutter both signaling issues due to age... he has a pacemaker now and an aed built into it to keep his heart in rhythm.  

sorry, just not so.  for dissection (from Merck manual).  Not saying this what happened but it's certainly a possibility.  Look up the demographics (people who are most likely to get this):  

Prognosis for Aortic Dissection

 

About 20% of patients with aortic dissection die before reaching the hospital. Without treatment, mortality rate is 1 to 3%/hour during the first 24 hours, 30% at 1 week, 80% at 2 weeks, and 90% at 1 year.

Hospital mortality rate for treated patients is about 30% for proximal dissection and 10% for distal. For treated patients who survive the acute episode, survival rate is about 60% at 5 years and 40% at 10 years. About one third of late deaths are due to complications of the dissection; the rest are due to other disorders.

[finn]

7 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

It's amazing how little I care about the rest of the season. If the Bills turned around and said our season is over, I would not care one bit. It's gonna be really tough to watch this team play football again.

I'm affected, too, and I wonder why I feel more emotional about this event than the countless other tragedies I read about all the time. Why this one? It's not just me and us; the whole country seems to be in distress. 

[Marlton Bills]

Should we rename hammers lot to hamlins lot?

[Bengalholic]

Just wanted to stop in and share my best wishes - on behalf of myself and The Bengals Board - for Damar and his family. My heart goes out to them...as well as his coaches, teammates and Bills fans everywhere. It was an absolutely heartbreaking thing to witness, and I hope there is some positive news coming at some point soon.

 

 

Edited January 3, 2023 by Bengalholic

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

I am so very indifferent right now to the results of the Bills' season and I suspect I will be until we know Damar is out of the woods and on his way to health.  I can't imagine how the players feel.  They're supposed to think about prepping for New England starting tomorrow, right?  With their brother potentially on his death bed?  

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, finn said:

I'm affected, too, and I wonder why I feel more emotional about this event than the countless other tragedies I read about all the time. Why this one? It's not just me and us; the whole country seems to be in distress. 

I think it’s because everyone watched it unfold live 

[NoSaint]

2 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

I am so very indifferent right now to the results of the Bills' season and I suspect I will be until we know Damar is out of the woods and on his way to health.  I can't imagine how the players feel.  They're supposed to think about prepping for New England starting tomorrow, right?  With their brother potentially on his death bed?  

At some point these are hyper competitive guys and many won’t want to stew in this - winning one for damar could quickly gain momentum in the room as both empowerment and distraction. Go out and compete is how plenty if these guys learned how to deal with tragedy through their lives.

[BillzFreak]

7 minutes ago, finn said:

I'm affected, too, and I wonder why I feel more emotional about this event than the countless other tragedies I read about all the time. Why this one? It's not just me and us; the whole country seems to be in distress. 

Sitting there with my son last night who plays high-school football I was simply shook. I love football and love watching him play but I honestly had a moment where I thought I don't want him playing anymore. I know it's a rash of emotions in the moment but man I've been praying for number 3 hard. Just be ok bud, please come through and hopefully stronger then ever.

[dabillsfan85]

Quote

Higher survival rates were associated with more prompt resuscitation (40%<3 minutes vs 5%>3 minutes; P<.001)

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23107651/

 

Some more literature:

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK526014/

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28587536/

 

https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/124/3/966/71816/Commotio-Cordis-and-the-Epidemiology-of-Sudden?redirectedFrom=fulltext

 

 

 

[North Buffalo]

13 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

sorry, just not so.  for dissection (from Merck manual).  Not saying this what happened but it's certainly a possibility.  Look up the demographics (people who are most likely to get this):  

Prognosis for Aortic Dissection

 

About 20% of patients with aortic dissection die before reaching the hospital. Without treatment, mortality rate is 1 to 3%/hour during the first 24 hours, 30% at 1 week, 80% at 2 weeks, and 90% at 1 year.

Hospital mortality rate for treated patients is about 30% for proximal dissection and 10% for distal. For treated patients who survive the acute episode, survival rate is about 60% at 5 years and 40% at 10 years. About one third of late deaths are due to complications of the dissection; the rest are due to other disorders.

Agree about survival rate but most dont happen due to trauma... PS I played hockey with a guy.. big George in his 60s wasnt feeling great one game left early... came back 2 weeks later crying he would never play again and his surgeon said one more hit and he'd have been dead.  

 

I have a pic too large to insert of a dissection I spotted doing a ct... pt came in complaining of upper abdomen pain... saw it and had to do another full chest abdomen pelvis... it was scary because part of the lower membrane burst and it was backfilling up the aorta...

[BillsFan130]

16 minutes ago, Bengalholic said:

Just wanted to stop in and share my best wishes - on behalf of myself and The Bengals Board - for Damar and his family. My heart goes out to them...as well as his coaches, teammates and Bills fans everywhere. It was an absolutely heartbreaking thing to witness, and I hope there is some positive news coming at some point soon.

 

 

Bengals seem like a pure class organization.

 

From coach Taylor , to the players and to the fans.

 

If bills don’t win the SB, will definitely be pulling for the Bengals 

[Playoffs?]

25 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

It's amazing how little I care about the rest of the season. If the Bills turned around and said our season is over, I would not care one bit. It's gonna be really tough to watch this team play football again.

I felt like that last night, and if the team didn’t want to play, I would happily support that. If they try to play, and fall flat on their faces, I think everyone would understand. 
 

But I think given the adversity all season, this is a special and tight-knit team. I think they’ll want to band together and finish the season… and who knows what some extra inspiration will do?  I’m not expecting this by any stretch… but what an incredible story it would be to show them overcoming and winning the Super Bowl for Damar. 

[Kenosha2Buffalo]

18 minutes ago, Bengalholic said:

Just wanted to stop in and share my best wishes - on behalf of myself and The Bengals Board - for Damar and his family. My heart goes out to them...as well as his coaches, teammates and Bills fans everywhere. It was an absolutely heartbreaking thing to witness, and I hope there is some positive news coming at some point soon.

 

 

 

You guys have been nothing but class. Thank you 

[oldmanfan]

19 minutes ago, Bengalholic said:

Just wanted to stop in and share my best wishes - on behalf of myself and The Bengals Board - for Damar and his family. My heart goes out to them...as well as his coaches, teammates and Bills fans everywhere. It was an absolutely heartbreaking thing to witness, and I hope there is some positive news coming at some point soon.

 

 

Please share my thoughts with your board. I’ve followed the Bills since opening day 1960.  In that time I’ve never seen another team and it’s fans show anywhere near the compassion shown by the Bengals and their fans as has been shown since last night.  Sincere thanks to you all.

[Draconator]

The Washington Commanders as a team donated $5000 to Damar's charity. George Kittle, Andrew Whitworth, and the Seattle Seahawks donated $1000 each. 

[Motorin']

25 minutes ago, finn said:

I'm affected, too, and I wonder why I feel more emotional about this event than the countless other tragedies I read about all the time. Why this one? It's not just me and us; the whole country seems to be in distress. 

 

Seeing the trauma and emotion of the whole team, it was like a direct transmission of what they were feeling. In a way that's much stronger than can perhaps be had from reading about tragic events. 

[Toledo Bill]

9 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Bengals seem like a pure class organization.

 

From coach Taylor , to the players and to the fans.

 

If bills don’t win the SB, will definitely be pulling for the Bengals 

I remember thinking before the game (and I think many others thought so) that they were an arrogant, unlikeable group. This is a lesson in being too quick to judge.

[Bengalholic]

3 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Bengals seem like a pure class organization.

 

From coach Taylor , to the players and to the fans.

 

If bills don’t win the SB, will definitely be pulling for the Bengals 

 

Our fan bases may have the best relationship in all of sports. It's very unfortunate that we have to share this current experience, but one thing's for sure...BillsMafia has the complete support of WhoDeyNation during this time, with what you guys are dealing with.

 

Just hoping that any upcoming news on Damar is positive and provides hope for a full recovery.

[SDS]

Please stop replying to garbage posts. It only makes our job harder. If there’s an issue report it.

[NoSaint]

31 minutes ago, finn said:

I'm affected, too, and I wonder why I feel more emotional about this event than the countless other tragedies I read about all the time. Why this one? It's not just me and us; the whole country seems to be in distress. 

part is that the tragedy is ongoing until we know if he will live. There’s not even superficial levels of closure yet. We aren’t wired to eee catastrophe and then have no resolution or activity. It’s hard but it’s human to be uncomfortable in limbo of helplessness 

[Bengalholic]

11 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Please share my thoughts with your board. I’ve followed the Bills since opening day 1960.  In that time I’ve never seen another team and it’s fans show anywhere near the compassion shown by the Bengals and their fans as has been shown since last night.  Sincere thanks to you all.

 

Will do. 

[Andy1]

13 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Bengals seem like a pure class organization.

 

From coach Taylor , to the players and to the fans.

 

If bills don’t win the SB, will definitely be pulling for the Bengals 

Agree 100%. If it isn’t the Bills this year, I’m rooting for Cinci all the way. There are so many connections, Cinci and us are like sibling rivals. 

[Big Turk]

22 minutes ago, Bengalholic said:

Just wanted to stop in and share my best wishes - on behalf of myself and The Bengals Board - for Damar and his family. My heart goes out to them...as well as his coaches, teammates and Bills fans everywhere. It was an absolutely heartbreaking thing to witness, and I hope there is some positive news coming at some point soon.

 

 

 

Thank you for your kindness, thoughtfulness and class which was on display in grand fashion last night from the fans in the stadium to the medical professionals at the stadium and at the UC Medical Center to the coaches, players and entire Bengals team. I have a massive newfound respect for Zac Taylor.

 

Was awesome to see Bills and Bengals fans unite both at the stadium as it was happening and afterwards at the vigil in front of the hospital. It truly showed the best of humanity in the moment. It was awesome to see Taylor and McDermott come together to basically tell the officials and NFL that they were done playing football tonight and then take their teams off the field. And it was awesome to see the outpouring of support for Hamlin's charity from across the NFL after BillsMafia has donated to so many other teams player charities throughout the years(starting with Dalton and Boyd).

 

Some things are more important than playing football and rivalries and playoff seedings.

 

I don't know what's going to happen the rest of the season in terms of if this game is going to get played, or even if the Bills will play again this season. Depending on how things turn out I don't think it's a foregone conclusion they will just be right back at it, but if the Bills don't make it this year, I will be rooting hard for the Bengals.

 

I actually lived in the Cincy area for a little over a year way back in the day...east of the city, I believe Mount Washington maybe? Worked in Kenwood at first, then Eastgate, then moved north to Franklin and started working in downtown Cincy...it was a cool place...I liked my time there. Other than my time at a Reds game once when it was 97 and super humid out and our seats were down the first base line in full sun...lasted maybe 3 innings 😂

[Mark92]

32 minutes ago, finn said:

I'm affected, too, and I wonder why I feel more emotional about this event than the countless other tragedies I read about all the time. Why this one? It's not just me and us; the whole country seems to be in distress. 

It was scary at first and then watching the 1000 mile stare, tears and fear in Josh Allens eyes made this situation traumatic for me.  I'll never forget the worry and concern from those eyes.  Scary stuff man.  Prayers up to Hamlin, his family, friends and the entire Bills Organization and community.  

[NC-billsfan!]

14 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Bengals seem like a pure class organization.

 

From coach Taylor , to the players and to the fans.

 

If bills don’t win the SB, will definitely be pulling for the Bengals 

I totally agree with this post. I have mixed emotions because they are the bungles, but man they handled that with class. I have a feeling Coach McDermott tried to rally the troops. Even Steph tried to get them going. I think even with blood in the water, Taylor…… speculating here, I think he saw the pain, went to McD and said let’s end this. If so hats off to the entire organization and especially Taylor for recognizing the moment.

[Big Turk]

41 minutes ago, finn said:

I'm affected, too, and I wonder why I feel more emotional about this event than the countless other tragedies I read about all the time. Why this one? It's not just me and us; the whole country seems to be in distress. 

 

Witnessing it on live TV playing out right before your eyes is always more graphic and emotionally taxing than simply reading about it. 

 

Also realizing that those type of hits happen multiple times every game without causing any issues makes you realize just how dangerous things came be.

 

Additionally there is no outcome...we don't know how things will turn out...his life is hanging in the balance right now 

Edited January 3, 2023 by Big Turk

[Bengalholic]

2 minutes ago, NC-billsfan! said:

I totally agree with this post. I have mixed emotions because they are the bungles, but man they handled that with class. I have a feeling Coach McDermott tried to rally the troops. Even Steph tried to get them going. I think even with blood in the water, Taylor…… speculating here, I think he saw the pain, went to McD and said let’s end this. If so hats off to the entire organization and especially Taylor for recognizing the moment.

 

Zac went to the hospital as well. I think he and McDermott are both class acts.

[RobbRiddick]

36 minutes ago, finn said:

I'm affected, too, and I wonder why I feel more emotional about this event than the countless other tragedies I read about all the time. Why this one? It's not just me and us; the whole country seems to be in distress. 

 

I think as seasoned football fans you're used to certain scripts playing out. The scene we've seen so many times of the player being immobilized as the players of both teams kneel in prayer. then the cart leaves the field and often the injured player gives a thumbs up to show he has movement. The crowd cheers and the players feel they can continue knowing their guy has some movement at least.

 

Last night I was expecting to see the same scene, then they showed Josh with that look of horror mixed with worry mixed with shock, plus the tears in the eyes. Then they showed Diggs and White in tears. That was such a powerful image and something I haven't seen before that it really hit me.

 

Finally those words from Buck about them administering CPR. That was so surreal and was the moment when I was thinking "Jesus, this young man is literally dying in front of his teammates". 

 

The whole thing was just so surreal and disturbing, not just for Bills fans but for anyone watching. It's amazing how you can go from being so pumped about the game and so rabid about every mistake or big play your team makes out there to literally not giving a damn about plays or scores or standings

[SCBills]

44 minutes ago, finn said:

I'm affected, too, and I wonder why I feel more emotional about this event than the countless other tragedies I read about all the time. Why this one? It's not just me and us; the whole country seems to be in distress. 

Not too many people have watched someone die in front of them, be revived, have them then fight for their life … and simultaneously watch an entire group of people that love him cathartically react to what’s going on.  
 

By now, almost everyone in the country has watched that play out on television … live television for many of us. 
 

That is incredibly raw, heartbreaking and unprecedented. 
 

I remember when this happened during the Euro’s but even then, there was word that Eriksen was alert as they left the stadium.  
 

Let’s all pray Hamlin is able to follow Eriksen and return to the game he loves.  

[Bengalholic]

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[NoSaint]

26 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Please share my thoughts with your board. I’ve followed the Bills since opening day 1960.  In that time I’ve never seen another team and it’s fans show anywhere near the compassion shown by the Bengals and their fans as has been shown since last night.  Sincere thanks to you all.

I mean this not as a knock on the bengals but a compliment to humanity: I think all 32 franchises and fans would respond similarly 

 

they have been great though. 

[oldmanfan]

1 minute ago, NoSaint said:

I mean this not as a knock on the bengals but a compliment to humanity: I think all 32 franchises and fans would respond similarly 

 

they have been great though. 

I suspect so.

[NoSaint]

 

[North Buffalo]

12 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Not too many people have watched someone die in front of them, be revived, have them then fight for their life … and simultaneously watch an entire group of people that love him cathartically react to what’s going on.  
 

By now, almost everyone in the country has watched that play out on television … live television for many of us. 
 

That is incredibly raw, heartbreaking and unprecedented. 
 

I remember when this happened during the Euro’s but even then, there was word that Eriksen was alert as they left the stadium.  
 

Let’s all pray Hamlin is able to follow Eriksen and return to the game he loves.  

True though I have especially the last couple years... people i know, didnt know... yet somehow this incident has hit a spot in my heart.. it hurts and I flashed through a lot of faces of those that I watched pass... be well Damar.

Edited January 3, 2023 by North Buffalo

[beebe]

Dion Dawkins was just on CNN with Wolf Blitzer for a 10+ minute segment. 

[stevestojan]

3 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

 

Well this seems like a bit of truly good news. 

[OZBILLS]

28 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said:

I remember thinking before the game (and I think many others thought so) that they were an arrogant, unlikeable group. This is a lesson in being too quick to judge.

I shudder at the thought of what would have happened in Philly!

Cincy are class

[Dablitzkrieg]

8 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

This is great news!!!

[YoloinOhio]