Damar Hamlin - Now (1/11/2023) discharged from Buf Gen & “recovering at home”

[chongli]

 

[longtimebillsfan]

45 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

Damar's toy drive is at $2.6 million now.

Now over $3,000,000.00.

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

57 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

People have been way to quick to criticize the league's handling of an unprecedented situation. In fact all of the NFL's preparedness and on-field protocols for a situation like this may have saved Hamlin's life tonight. I choose to focus on that, instead of how many minutes they waited to announce the game was postponed.

Ok. I even gave you a Lombardi reaction. 

[Rochesterfan]

1 minute ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

 Are we to believe that nobody from the network covering the game was in contact with the league? Come on you don't believe that do you?

 

 

 

 

 

Yes - I think the league was quite busy dealing with other things associated with the events.

 

At no time did they state the NFL told them it would be a five minute warmup.  They did say they heard from the people on the field - so was the NFL decision makers on the field.

 

I am sure the sideline reporter talked to the head of officiating who quoted standard SOP - a five minute warmup and then the game resumes and that is what Buck and Aikman quoted.  That is also where Van Pelt got his info from the broadcast.

 

I do not for a second believe anyone at ESPN was in contact with high up league officials during that break.

 

 

 

[GETTOTHE50]

please be ok Damar. We love you 

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, muppy said:

ahem, a Bills fan ER physician IN CINCY  treating damar hamlin  I would say qualifies as a crazy and random event just sayin

 

 

 

She wasn't in Cincy.  She is an ER Dr. contributor for CNN.  So was asked to tell what she knows.

Both ER Dr.'s said if Damar's heart was restarted quickly, and they got him tubed quickly it's a good sign for recovery.

I'm going to sleep feeling a little better.

 

Go Bills and Go Damar!

[What a Tuel]

1 minute ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

Yes - I think the league was quite busy dealing with other things associated with the events.

 

At no time did they state the NFL told them it would be a five minute warmup.  They did say they heard from the people on the field - so was the NFL decision makers on the field.

 

I am sure the sideline reporter talked to the head of officiating who quoted standard SOP - a five minute warmup and then the game resumes and that is what Buck and Aikman quoted.  That is also where Van Pelt got his info from the broadcast.

 

I do not for a second believe anyone at ESPN was in contact with high up league officials during that break.

 

 

 

 

Why is it so hard for people to believe the broadcast team asked officials what happens next and officials on the field quoted SOP and didn't say "we don't know, its up to the league"?

[muppy]

Just now, ColoradoBills said:

 

She wasn't in Cincy.  She is an ER Dr. contributor for CNN.  So was asked to tell what she knows.

Both ER Dr.'s said if Damar's heart was restarted quickly, and they got him tubed quickly it's a good sign for recovery.

I'm going to sleep feeling a little better.

 

Go Bills and Go Damar!

MY BAD Thank you for clarifying that for me. Long night. Peace.

[Rochesterfan]

10 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said:

He does.  And it doesn’t matter that the exact words from Troy were: “They’ve been given 5 minutes, That’s the word we got from the league”.  Some serious mental gymnastics going on to spin this one.

 

So you believe while this was going on - Buck and Aikman called and spoke to NFL league officials in NY and were told by Vincent and Goodell that a five minute warmup and restarting the game was the plan.

 

 Or was the League - a person on the sideline providing them with what the Standard SOP is with limited knowledge of what other discussions may be occurring.

 

 

Edited January 3, 2023 by Rochesterfan

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

I do not for a second believe anyone at ESPN was in contact with high up league officials during that break.

 

Nor do I.  LOL, do people actually believe they were talking to Goodell.

 

For a crazy situation it seems to me everything was done pretty good.

 

I sure want to know about the on-field emergency people.  They need some big-time kudos.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

34 minutes ago, Draconator said:

Two Emergency Doctors are on CNN now. They both agreed that the most likely cause is Commotio Cordis. 

Just like I said 20 minutes after the hit and they said they were doing COR. It’s the only diagnosis that makes sense.

[Figster]

6 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

She wasn't in Cincy.  She is an ER Dr. contributor for CNN.  So was asked to tell what she knows.

Both ER Dr.'s said if Damar's heart was restarted quickly, and they got him tubed quickly it's a good sign for recovery.

I'm going to sleep feeling a little better.

 

Go Bills and Go Damar!

As will I,

 

Also seen the CNN report and had seen the friends tweet earlier

 

This is good news in my humble opinion

 

I miss you to ;  )@muppy

[HurlyBurly51]

2 minutes ago, Figster said:

As will I,

 

Also seen the CNN report and had seen the friends tweet earlier

 

This is good news in my humble opinion

 

I miss you to ;  )@muppy

I’m also taking solace in the fact that the ambulance waited for his Mom before heading to the hospital.  That was taken as a good sign.

[UConn James]

Maybe a bit of an aside here, but has anyone else searched for “Damar Hamlin” on eBay? Wow. Rookie card signature was up to $26,000 with 66 bids.

 

Not quite sure what to think about that… 

Edited January 3, 2023 by UConn James

[Last Guy on the Bench]

24 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

Yes - I think the league was quite busy dealing with other things associated with the events.

 

At no time did they state the NFL told them it would be a five minute warmup.  They did say they heard from the people on the field - so was the NFL decision makers on the field.

 

I am sure the sideline reporter talked to the head of officiating who quoted standard SOP - a five minute warmup and then the game resumes and that is what Buck and Aikman quoted.  That is also where Van Pelt got his info from the broadcast.

 

I do not for a second believe anyone at ESPN was in contact with high up league officials during that break.

 

 

 

Yes, this is most likely - that the broadcast team was talking to the refs, who in the absence of any direction (yet) from the league, just told them what the normal rule was for restarting after an extended injury timeout. It's very hard to believe the league office called and told them to start the game back up after a five minute warmup. I think it was just the refs and the coaches in discussion - the refs saying this is the usual procedure, the coaches responding by saying they needed to go discuss things with their teams, and the refs (and league at some point) agreeing. But the conspiracy theorists are out in force tonight.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

Again was Joe Buck getting his info directly from the NFL?

 

More likely Buck and Aikman were getting info from the Referee assigned to them who stated the standard SOP is a five minute warm up and play resumes.

 

People quoting Buck or Van Pelt as the NFL directed teams that the game would resume with a five minute break is stupid.  They were not in contact with the league.

 

Who was in contact with the league - it appears the Refs and the HC of each team and after their discussion the players were sent to the locker room.

 

Following additional discussion - the game was suspended pending further discussion.

 

I am not saying the NFL is 100% clear, but the decision to suspend a game needed league, both team, and NFLPA input and was not something that was decided in the time Hamlin was injured. Hence getting the players off and having time to discuss the entirety of the situation.

 

Again - in the end the correct decision was made and the five minute thing was announced by people covering the game with no input or discussion with the league.  It was based entirely on normal SOP for an abnormal situation.

 

 

 

According to his own quote he was:

 

‘They’ve been given 5 minutes to get ready to go back to playing…that’s the word weve gotten from the league and the word we’ve gotten from down on the field’ is the particular quote I’m talking about.  There is a near 0% chance they were just outlining the standard ambulance procedures there. and if he somehow was just talking about standard procedure, that quote should’ve been corrected at some point imo. 
 

they announced it over the PA also it sounds like(maybe someone at the game can confirm so I do not need to trust twitter) and the bengals offense was warming up on the sideline after the announcement .  I absolutely respect your opinion that the right decision was reached and how they got there isn’t important,  but I can see people being skeptical of how some of this was handled.

 
It could definitely be a series of coincidences but based on what we saw it’s a pretty reasonable assumption that the league wanted the game to go on and the coaches stepped in.
 

 

 

 

 

[Dan Darragh]

31 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said:

He does.  And it doesn’t matter that the exact words from Troy were: “They’ve been given 5 minutes, That’s the word we got from the league”.  Some serious mental gymnastics going on to spin this one.

This is perhaps the lowest of the many low conversations I've seen on this board over the years.

 

Who gives a damn???

 

Shame on all of you.

[Figster]

1 minute ago, NUT said:

I don't even want to say what I believe those ppl are thinking.

 

8 minutes ago, UConn James said:

Maybe a bit of an aside here, but has anyone else searched for “Damar Hamlin” on eBay? Wow. Rookie card signature was up to $26,000 with 66 bids.

 

Not quite sure what to think about that… 

 A miracle in the making is priceless perhaps.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

12 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:

This is perhaps the lowest of the many low conversations I've seen on this board over the years.

 

Who gives a damn???

 

Shame on all of you.

You’re not replying to me directly and I haven’t followed what people with similar ish opinions have been saying so feel free to disregard if I’m way off base here…but can I ask why? 
 

 

can you imagine seeing your friends heart stop on the field and he’s taken off in an ambulance then allegedly hearing ‘be ready to go in 5 minutes’. Maybe I can only speak for myself but it is because I feel terribly for the players/Hamlin that I want to know what happened.  It’s not at all just looking for an excuse to take out a pitchfork against the nfl again.  
 

I would be as happy as anyone to hear it’s all just coincidental…it’s not something I’m actively trying to believe 

Edited January 3, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Dan Darragh]

Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

You’re not replying to me directly and I haven’t followed what people with similar ish opinions have been saying so feel free to disregard if I’m way off base here…but can I ask why? 
 

 

can you imagine seeing your friends heart stop on the field and he’s taken off on an ambulance then allegedly hearing ‘be ready to go in 5 minutes’. Maybe I can only speak for myself but it is because I feel terribly for the players/Hamlin that I want to know what happened.  It’s not at all just looking for an excuse to take out a pitchfork against the nfl again.  
 

I would be as happy as anyone to hear it’s all just coincidental…it’s not something I’m actively trying to believe 

 

Why does this matter to you?  Who cares "who was lying"?

[Alphadawg7]

3 hours ago, loyal2dagame said:

Too soon for anyone to give "opinions" on what they saw.

Someone always has to try to be the first person to be right to get done cred.

Well sure looks like those doctors opinions are looking more and more likely given it was announced he did suffer cardiac arrest after sustaining the hit.  
 

So again, hating on the many doctors who came out and explained what this was and why it’s was a very plausible explanation of what happened seems not only off base, but unnecessary.  

[Buffalo716]

Man I can’t sleep …. Ryan Clark and so many Others have put it perfectly 

 

Words can’t describe what has happened…. But every football player knew this day might happen one day… It is a super violent sport

 

A sport that every player on that field loves and dreamed of playing growing up…. How many players… Said they would give ANYTHING  to play in the NFL

 

Well anything includes your life

 

And Damar is fighting for his…. He gave everything on the field for his teammates

 

EVERYTHING

 

And I can’t imagine what the players and staff of the Buffalo Bills and Cincinnati Bengals are going through… As just a buffalonian on the side

 

Demar Hamlin , you are bigger than the game of football, we love you and get well brother 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 3, 2023 by Buffalo716

[Dr.Sack]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

Man I can’t sleep …. Ryan Clark and so many Others have put it perfectly 

 

Words can’t describe what has happened…. But every football player knew this day might happen one day… It is a super violent sport

 

A sport that every player on that field loves and dreamed of playing growing up…. How many players… Said they would give ANYTHING  to play in the NFL

 

Well anything includes your life

 

And Demar is fighting for his…. He gave everything on the field for his teammates

 

EVERYTHING

 

And I can’t imagine what the players and staff of the Buffalo Bills and Cincinnati Bengals are going through… As just a buffalonian on the side

 

Demar Hamlin , you are bigger than the game of football, we love you and get well brother 

 

 

 

 

 

I’ll be up all night. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Him getting up is a good sign hes not paralyzed, but is puzzling why he collapsed?

 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

21 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:

Why does this matter to you?  Who cares "who was lying"?

For me it’s not at all about who’s lying.  But I think zac Taylor may have done a really special thing here and it gets undercut by the nfl saying they just instructed both teams to leave the field and there were never any plans to restart the game.  His team had a near perfect start and it looked like they were trying to restart a game his team would more than likely win and without hesitation he went over to McDermott and they decided they weren’t finishing the game.   If that’s the case I feel like people deserve to know.  And if the league handled it well that would be a good thing for people to know also.  
 

maybe it’s stupid and I’m just looking for a silver lining in a terrible situation..idk.  Thanks for the civil answer though

 

5 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Him getting up is a good sign hes not paralyzed, but is puzzling why he collapsed?

 

 

Blunt force trauma to your chest can stop your heart…Hamlin suffered cardiac arrest and they had to restart his heart 

Edited January 3, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[longtimebillsfan]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Him getting up is a good sign hes not paralyzed, but is puzzling why he collapsed?

 

 

The Bills confirmed Damar experienced cardiac arrest and his heartbeat was restored on the field.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

For me it’s not at all about who’s lying.  But I think zac Taylor may have done a really special thing here and it gets undercut by the nfl saying they just instructed both teams to leave the field.  His team had a near perfect start and it looked like they were trying to restart a game his team would more than likely win and without hesitation he went over to McDermott and they decided they weren’t finishing the game.   If that’s the case I feel like people deserve to know.  And if the league handled it well that would be a good thing for people to know also.  
 

maybe it’s stupid and I’m just looking for a silver lining in a terrible situation..idk.  Thanks for the civil answer though

 

Blunt force trauma to your chest can stop your heart…Hamlin suffered cardiac arrest and they had to restart his heart 

 

Right but why did he have a heartbeat but not breathing at the hospital ??

 

 

[Buffalo716]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Him getting up is a good sign hes not paralyzed, but is puzzling why he collapsed?

 

 

It’s cardiac arrest

 

It’s like a baseball player getting hit in the chest with a line drive

 

But he gets up for a second… Then when all the blood pressure drops after his heart stops he collapses

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

It’s like when somebody gets smoked by a car… And their body is basically dead

 

But their brain isn’t And they’re running on adrenaline… So they pop up

 

Then their brain realize they’re dead and they collapse 

 

Right but still not paralyzed,, to which he wouldn't have moved at all

 

 

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Right but still not paralyzed,, to which he wouldn't have moved at all

 

 

my other post

 

It’s like a short stop getting hit in the chest with a line drive and getting cardiac arrest

 

He collapses after the blood pressure probably drops

Edited January 3, 2023 by Buffalo716

[Buffalo Barbarian]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

my other post

 

It’s like a short stop getting hit in the chest with a line drive and getting cardiac arrest

 

He collapses after the blood pressure probably drops

 

Guess we'll find out

 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

It’s like when somebody gets smoked by a car… And their body is basically dead

 

But their brain isn’t And they’re running on adrenaline… So they pop up

 

Then their brain realize they’re dead and they collapse 

Idk exactly what happened but I think an AED/defibrillator is supposed to stop your heart so that it can restart naturally on its own in the appropriate rhythm.  So it’s possible that the shot to the chest knocked his heartbeat way out of rhythm to the point where he was losing motor function and the only way to save him was to restart his heart. 

[Buffalo716]

Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Idk exactly what happened but I think an AED/defibrillator is supposed to stop your heart so that it can restart naturally on its own in the appropriate rhythm.  So it’s possible that the shot to the chest knocked his heartbeat way out of rhythm to the point where he was losing motor function and the only way to save him was to restart his heart. 

I’m definitely not a doctor but that sounds plausible

 

I know the car Crash comparison was extreme

 

But it’s more akin to a short stop getting hit in the chest with a line drive and getting cardiac arrest

 

And what you said sounds very plausible 

[JoPoy88]

13 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Him getting up is a good sign hes not paralyzed, but is puzzling why he collapsed?

 

 

Cardiac event. Catch up bud.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

12 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Right but why did he have a heartbeat but not breathing at the hospital ??

 

 

Your heart can’t pump the oxygenated blood around your body well enough when your heart function is very compromised. So the lungs stop working as well and stuff starts to get backed up.
 

he had a pulse but it was very weak so his heart likely wasn’t strong enough for him to breathe on his own. They put him on a ventilator to essentially breathe for him and it sounds like his heart function has returned to normal but as a precaution they’ll likely leave him on the ventilator for awhile and monitor things  

Edited January 3, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Figster]

7 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said:

I’ll be up all night. 

Watching our Buffalo Bill football team of big, strong men. Some of the toughest and best athletes in the world. Break down and cry on National television. Knowing why, and what they were witnessing at the time. Is something that will haunt me until the day I die.

 

Yup, I'll be up all night...

[Buffalo Barbarian]

2 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

Cardiac event. Catch up bud.

 

I was talking about being paralyzed, get lost

 

 

[Buffalo716]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

I was talking about being paralyzed, get lost

 

 

Well he is clearly not paralyzed .. it looks like it wasn’t a neck injury or spinal injury

 

He collapsed because his heart stopped

Edited January 3, 2023 by Buffalo716

[DrPJax]

3 hours ago, Dr.Sack said:

I’ll be up all night. 

I feel for you.  He is in a teaching hospital so he is surrounded by icu/critical care nurses and most likely resident drs in addition to the lead or attending dr. If one ever suffers a cardiac arrest as he did, time is critical and other than arresting in a hospital, there is no place where action would have happened that quickly.  Last tweet suggested his vitals are “stable “ and he is intubated on a ventilator and was sedated ( this is common using certain med so if he does wake up he doesn’t “fight” the tube in his trachea.  ).  Time will tell , but I am certain he is having neuro testing such as a baseline eeg to test for brain activity , ct probably and echocardiogram to evaluate his heart and aorta, and with time the meds sedating any function will be weaned to see how he reacts ( can he breath on his own or react to stimuli} to determine his prognosis.  It’s a waiting issue now , he got great , the absolute best care. Cpr is done to preserve brain and heart tissue /function and we can only pray it was adequate to preserve as much function as possible.  

 

Great hospital, I almost did my residency there in family practice as I am from Ohio , but ended up training in Toledo Ohio. Teaching hospitals are.on the cutting edge of medicine , so now we can just add prayer nd hope.  Might know more over next 24-48 hours but he is in great hands and I am sure God is there watching over all the family,  team, and caretakers.  Hope you can get some rest.  Best wishes.  Hopefully we see him leave and go home someday  as we can hope for the best outcome. 

Edited January 3, 2023 by DrPJax

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

6 minutes ago, Figster said:

Watching our Buffalo Bill football team of big, strong men. Some of the toughest and best athletes in the world. Break down and cry on National television. Knowing why, and what they were witnessing at the time. Is something that will haunt me until the day I die.

 

Yup, I'll be up all night...

I have never seen anything like that in my life…not even any of the really awful neck injuries where you weren’t sure if the players would even walk again.  The whole bills team thought they were watching their friend die on the field it was absolutely awful