Russell Wilson and His Divisive Entourage

[Punching Bag]

2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

 

Question: which other NFL QBs have similar "teams" surrounding them? I know Mahomes has his official groupies, but what about Josh? Rodgers?

 

 

JEST Wilson had his MILF pack.

[Matt_In_NH]

He does high knees on the airplane, don't need to know anything else.

[Don Otreply]

Why is it that when a player is unable to perform (to put it politely) like RW & KM etc, the GM & HC don’t just bench their azs and play the back up?  the team owner can’t be so naive as to think doing otherwise is going help the situation, in both of their cases, and in the short and long term it only helps the team and organization, it is likely that players really dislike playing for QBs like those guys, 

[BuffaloBill]

2 hours ago, HOUSE said:

My wife shovels the driveway 

 

She shovels you ***** too. We’ve heard about it from her.

 

[dreadlox]

Does this make the TJ Graham pick look any better at all? Buddy knew Russ was a diva all along and now it’s all coming out in the wash. 

[AuntieEm]

3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I somehow didn't know this, but the collapse of the Broncos has people talking. Russell Wilson has a whole entourage surrounding him, including:

- personal QB coach, often onsite (whose advice may conflict with the official coaching staff)

- social media assistants, also getting in the way

- personal office in the team training complex, so he can, umm, attend to his other commitments

- nutritionist/personal chef

 

Not to mention his wife, and the more typical demands like extra hotel suites when on the road.

 

This is all fine and dandy when you're winning (right, Tom Brady?).

https://www.si.com/nfl/2014/08/26/russell-wilson-entourage-seattle-seahawks

 

 https://denverfan.com/2099516/why-its-no-big-deal-that-russell-wilson-has-an-entourage-with-him/

 

But when things go south, the resentment over preferential treatment bubbles up to the surface. And it's boiling over right now, with lots of local Colorado media talking openly about it, and about how the new coaching staff needs to rein this stuff in (assuming that it's not written into that now-horrific Wilson contract).

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/russell-wilson-jake-heaps-involvement-broncos#:~:text=Denver Broncos QB Russell Wilson's,Broncos News%2C Analysis and More

 

Question: which other NFL QBs have similar "teams" surrounding them? I know Mahomes has his official groupies, but what about Josh? Rodgers?

 

 

   Josh doesn't need an entourage because most any Bills Mafia or any Bills player would gladly give Josh any assistance needed when a need arises.  Plus our boy is capable of doing things by his own efforts so doesn't usually need much.  I also don't think Josh ever thinks he is more than just good at the game he loves to play and it just so happens it pays when your that good at it.  It doesn't make him better than any other person and certainly not any of his teammates who work just as hard as he does.

 

 

 

[AuntieEm]

2 hours ago, Greg S said:

 

 

   Lol,   I certainly hope that this was just someone's creative photos hopped commentary on Russell Wilson.  

 

  However, with some of the other really cringe Russell media clips that his team has put out makes it so believable that this was put out by Russell Wilson's media team.  I cannot fathom how they could think this was a good look so I truly hope it is a third party photoshopped picture.

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

1 hour ago, dreadlox said:

Does this make the TJ Graham pick look any better at all? Buddy knew Russ was a diva all along and now it’s all coming out in the wash. 

Yes. Everyday Pete Carroll bangs his head against the wall because the Bills got TJ Graham and he was stuck with Wilson a couple rounds later. 😃

[Talleywhacker]

4 hours ago, HOUSE said:

My wife shovels the driveway 

I married my snow blower

 

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, Talleywhacker said:

I married my snow blower

 

And I married to my shovel 

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

4 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Chef should he FT and teams shpuld encourage/push that as much as possible. Nutrition is atleast half of player performsnce. Finding a way to hit all their macros, rotate foods for vitamins, make it taste good (skipping meals or going off script is bad). 

The offensive linemen have Chefs…

 

 

 

[In Summary]

2 hours ago, RobbRiddick said:

Wow, he's like the Jon Bon Jovi of quarterbacks

Well mostly. Russ actually had talent.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

He should hire a guy to play QB for him. He personally sucks at it

[pennstate10]

4 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Chef should he FT and teams shpuld encourage/push that as much as possible. Nutrition is atleast half of player performsnce. Finding a way to hit all their macros, rotate foods for vitamins, make it taste good (skipping meals or going off script is bad). 

“Nutrition is at least half of player performance”

I’m curious if there is any data to support this quote, or whether it’s made up out of thin air. 
 

I went to Chefs when I was in Buffalo a couple months back. Waiter told me that Bruce Smith used to come in every Friday for a 3 pound plate of spaghetti “parmed”. 
 

These guys are incredible athletes with monster caloric demands. I’m thinking that the most important thing is to get sufficient protein and calories. Don’t really need a personal chef for that; it’s a luxury, but not necessary. Weight, speed, and endurance training are necessary. 

[Nextmanup]

What's with the fascination around here with Russell Wilson?

 

Or Tua for that matter?

 

Personally, I find myself spending ZERO time thinking about either unless they are playing football at that moment on my TV.

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

What's with the fascination around here with Russell Wilson?

 

Or Tua for that matter?

 

Personally, I find myself spending ZERO time thinking about either unless they are playing football at that moment on my TV.

 

 

Honestly, I think it's just good old fashioned gloating. After 20+ years in QB hell, Bills fans finally have a true franchise QBs, so we now like to make fun of all the other teams and fanbases that are deluding themselves that maybe their own draft pick will become that guy, or that maybe they can resurrect the career of some previously great QB. Be honest: did you ever say "Drew Bledsoe will get this team back into SB contender status," or "I think JP Losman can develop into a Top 10 QB," or "I think Ryan Fitzpatrick could finally be the guy to get us past the Patriots." (Confession: I didn't say the first two, but I did say the 3rd one)

 

For me, the Wilson story is fascinating. There just aren't many examples of 33/34 year old HOF or likely future HOF QBs falling off a cliff like him. The only recent one that comes to mind is Cam Newton: essentially done as a good starter by age 30. (Cautionary tale for us?). We talk about guys like Bledsoe being done early, but he was never on Wilson's level. Who else? The Broncos can't really be blamed for thinking that the worst case scenario was probably a continuing slow decline, in which they'd get the best QB they've had (by far!) since Peyton for the first couple years, and then have an overpaid but still playable starting QB for at least a couple more. This is almost unprecedented. 

[NoSaint]

Next year will be fascinating. 
 

id be so curious to see what happens with a good coaching staff… but who with options is going to marry themselves to the possibility he’s fried and they can’t escape? 
 

The broncos owners will have to give an elite coach essentially a blank check, long commitment and personnel control 

 

hiring another terrible coach and not knowing what you have in Russ is worst case. 

[Solomon Grundy]

6 hours ago, freddyjj said:

done!

 

They call her jawbone 😎

[UKBillFan]

6 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

Josh has absolutely no diet or meal plan. He says he eats whatever he wants including drinking beer. Sounds like fun if you are the typical 40 something overweight poster on TBD but not for an elite athlete 

Though I caught a photo of Josh doing the press conference post Bears and thought he was looking leaner than before. Might just be me.

 

(Before anyone says it, yes I am comparing out-of-uniform to out-of-uniform!)

Edited December 28, 2022 by UKBillFan

[The Frankish Reich]

Question: Name the QBs with 10+ year career, on a Hall of Fame level trajectory, who were essentially done as effective starters by their Age 34 seasons.

 

Answer: Cam Newton (29), Troy Aikman (34).

 

That's all I got right now. I'm not counting early retirees like Andrew Luck, who actually played very well in his final season.

 

 

[KDIGGZ]

25 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

Though I caught a photo of Josh doing the press conference post Bears and thought he was looking leaner than before. Might just be me.

 

(Before anyone says it, yes I am comparing out-of-uniform to out-of-uniform!)

The crazy thing is, say what you will about Tom Brady as I know a lot of people on the forum don't like him, but he's the best to ever do it and he's still doing it 20+ years later at a super high level and he wrote a book on exactly what he does to stay healthy and in great shape even in his mid 40's. If I was say a young guy in my mid 20's with aspirations of achieving that level of success I would probably buy that book and do exactly what he did.

[3rdnlng]

I had heard somewhere that Josh takes a little ribbing from teammates regarding his physique. I don't recall ever seeing him shirtless but my guess is that he isn't built like the other "skill" players on the team and doesn't want to be. To be a smooth passer he doesn't need or want to be musclebound. He obviously needs strong hands and legs with the legs important for his rocket throws and running. At this point in time I don't think Josh is imagining a career as a QB until he reaches 45 like Marcia. He's probably happy with his body and his physical performance on the field. I'm thinking that he probably eats healthy in a general way but doesn't shy away from wings or prime rib when he feels like it. Some people are just talented enough that a dad body doesn't hold them back. Think John Daly, Bartolo Colon and Babe Ruth. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

And Bills players have to brush off their own vehicles when they get back into town after a flight... I bet Russell Wilson gets his vehicle cleared of snow. 

 

Anyway... DIYing it with others builds comradery... Glad the Bills have it:

 

 

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sports/buffalo-bills-dig-cars-out-of-snow-on-christmas-after-storm-delays-return-home/4014163/

Edited December 28, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois

[The Frankish Reich]

16 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Think John Daly, Bartolo Colon and Babe Ruth

I get your point, but I'm not sure Josh wants to be in that company. Maybe we could go Phil Mickelson, Larry Walker, David Ortiz?

[kota]

DIVA.  Lets ride is such a stupid phrase.  

[3rdnlng]

9 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I get your point, but I'm not sure Josh wants to be in that company. Maybe we could go Phil Mickelson, Larry Walker, David Ortiz?

Hey, don't criticize my hyperbole! I spent a lot of years pitching baseball and fastpitch softball and refused to workout to the point of not having a fluid delivery. Best damn excuse I ever had. 

[AlfaBill]

6 hours ago, AuntieEm said:

 

 

   Lol,   I certainly hope that this was just someone's creative photos hopped commentary on Russell Wilson.  

 

  However, with some of the other really cringe Russell media clips that his team has put out makes it so believable that this was put out by Russell Wilson's media team.  I cannot fathom how they could think this was a good look so I truly hope it is a third party photoshopped picture.

 

 

If you can’t see that is photoshopped get glasses. 

46 minutes ago, kota said:

DIVA.  Lets ride is such a stupid phrase.  

Has a very broke back mountain feel to it. 

1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said:

I had heard somewhere that Josh takes a little ribbing from teammates regarding his physique. I don't recall ever seeing him shirtless but my guess is that he isn't built like the other "skill" players on the team and doesn't want to be. To be a smooth passer he doesn't need or want to be musclebound. He obviously needs strong hands and legs with the legs important for his rocket throws and running. At this point in time I don't think Josh is imagining a career as a QB until he reaches 45 like Marcia. He's probably happy with his body and his physical performance on the field. I'm thinking that he probably eats healthy in a general way but doesn't shy away from wings or prime rib when he feels like it. Some people are just talented enough that a dad body doesn't hold them back. Think John Daly, Bartolo Colon and Babe Ruth. 

You named a golfer(not a sport) and 2 baseball players. 

[AuntieEm]

8 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

It’s sad really. I remember watching the senior bowl practices and being so impressed by how humble Wilson was. He was out to prove himself, taking extra reps and mimicking plays when the other QBs were in. I didn't want to draft him, because he was small, but I was clearly wrong about that aspect of his game. How do you go from this humble hard working dude with the ugly girlfriend at the draft to whatever he has turned out to be? It’s sad. 

 

  I'm pretty sure that it was his first wife when he got drafted.  

[Nitro]

He has struck me as a strange guy.  Allowing this behavior only alienates him from the other teammates.   Owner and GM are culpable in abetting this.  A pox on that team.  Feel for their fans.

[AuntieEm]

8 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Yeah, but I googled her too, and I just gotta say: "some people have ridiculously high standards." Either that or they don't have a girlfriend ...

 

 

 

 

 

  The image when they captured the news he was drafted just caught her in an awkward unflattering expression.  Otherwise she wasn't that unattractive.  Anyone that's ever gotten a driver license photo knows it's easy to get a bad picture when they catch a bad expression on a person's face.   I truly believe they train the dmv picture takers to wait for a bad look on people before they snap even trying to get you to answer a question to try for that bad look.

Edited December 28, 2022 by AuntieEm

[3rdnlng]

11 minutes ago, AlfaBill said:

If you can’t see that is photoshopped get glasses. 

Has a very broke back mountain feel to it. 

You named a golfer(not a sport) and 2 baseball players. 

Obviously the point went right over your head. I don't intend to argue with you but golf is certainly a sport and I'm aware that the two others I named were baseball players. I suggest that in the future if you want to have a discussion regarding someone's post that you avoid drive-by posting.

[AuntieEm]

27 minutes ago, AlfaBill said:

If you can’t see that is photoshopped get glasses. 

 

     I also have seen alot of cringe worthy behind the scenes footage put out be his or the Broncos media team.  Not certain which but am certain I'd never hire that media team if ever I were in need of positive pr.  Of course normal people don't generally need pr people to fix their images as it's perfectly fine to be normal.  

 

 

[AlfaBill]

22 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Obviously the point went right over your head. I don't intend to argue with you but golf is certainly a sport and I'm aware that the two others I named were baseball players. I suggest that in the future if you want to have a discussion regarding someone's post that you avoid drive-by posting.

Perhaps I could’ve added some insight. Apologies didn’t mean to insult you. To me Golf is a pastime not requiring athletic ability. And baseball always had chunky players. Football though you would think the skill guys have well sculpted muscles to assist with running, jumping, pushing off, throwing running, etc. I love golf and do play myself but let’s be honest, it doesn’t require nutrition, speed, strength only focus and precision. Big difference. 

12 minutes ago, AuntieEm said:

 

     I also have seen alot of cringe worthy behind the scenes footage put out be his or the Broncos media team.  Not certain which but am certain I'd never hire that media team if ever I were in need of positive pr.  Of course normal people don't generally need pr people to fix their images as it's perfectly fine to be normal.  

 

 

Wouldn’t it be crazy if it wasn’t though? I’m not nor have I ever been a fan of Wilson but his Mr Unlimited really made me dislike him even more. 

[BillsShredder83]

4 hours ago, pennstate10 said:

“Nutrition is at least half of player performance”

I’m curious if there is any data to support this quote, or whether it’s made up out of thin air. 
 

I went to Chefs when I was in Buffalo a couple months back. Waiter told me that Bruce Smith used to come in every Friday for a 3 pound plate of spaghetti “parmed”. 
 

These guys are incredible athletes with monster caloric demands. I’m thinking that the most important thing is to get sufficient protein and calories. Don’t really need a personal chef for that; it’s a luxury, but not necessary. Weight, speed, and endurance training are necessary. 

Body composition is a result of what players eat. If youre a lineman, to an extent, sure eat like a slob. Everyone else needs to mind their weight, whether that means maintaining, losing, or gaining.

 

Also, most players will grind their ass off to gain a lb or two of muscle... theres no beginner gains, theyre at the edge of physiology. Without adding hormones it takes a perfectly balanced/custom diet plans. 

 

This isnt a "rice, beef/chicken" diet. Its rotating foods to optimize vitamins, on top of macros. Body needs to be on point, but also need energy levels at peak, recovery, and mental sharpness.

 

Im sure in 1990 Bruce picked a few staples and ate like a horse. Its insane to think thats going on in 2020's. Sports science/nutrition makes that 1-2% performance difference between all-pro/pro bowl players. Its something any smart player isnt ignoring, and id imagine teams push it HAAAAARD

[Sierra Foothills]

7 hours ago, dreadlox said:

Does this make the TJ Graham pick look any better at all? Buddy knew Russ was a diva all along and now it’s all coming out in the wash. 

 

No because T.Y. Hilton was also available... he just recently signed with Dallas btw.

 

[Bferra13]

8 hours ago, aristocrat said:

So I haven't seen interviews but how has he been after games? Taking blame?  

He just says, "broncos country, let's ride!" Then hangs his head in shame and leaves the podium.

[AuntieEm]

57 minutes ago, AlfaBill said:

Perhaps I could’ve added some insight. Apologies didn’t mean to insult you. To me Golf is a pastime not requiring athletic ability. And baseball always had chunky players. Football though you would think the skill guys have well sculpted muscles to assist with running, jumping, pushing off, throwing running, etc. I love golf and do play myself but let’s be honest, it doesn’t require nutrition, speed, strength only focus and precision. Big difference. 

Wouldn’t it be crazy if it wasn’t though? I’m not nor have I ever been a fan of Wilson but his Mr Unlimited really made me dislike him even more. 

 

  That is what is so crazy.   Yes it was a photoshopped picture but the pic of him in a riding posture came from somewhere.  Likely the behind scenes video that was full of cringe moments and yet the media team that allowed it and I suppose scripted it really truly makes the photoshop something they would have put out.

 

  I expect his let's ride video snippets to be used in a future warning video about the damages from concussions.  Just like the old frying an egg on a skillet was used to depict your brain on drugs.

Edited December 28, 2022 by AuntieEm

[Mango]

10 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

Josh has absolutely no diet or meal plan. He says he eats whatever he wants including drinking beer. Sounds like fun if you are the typical 40 something overweight poster on TBD but not for an elite athlete 

Couple things. 
 

1. Josh does have a diet in season. With a dietician, and a target weight. He’s mentioned it himself. He has also said he doesn’t follow them strictly and is heavier than they ask him to be. He doesn’t have one in the off-season  and eats what he wants. 

 

2. This last offseason he said he didn’t do much of anything but rest his body saying it felt good to rest and feel fresh for camp. Some posters have noted that his footwork and mechanics have gotten sloppier through out the year. Do with that what you will. 
 

3. If he wants to keep playing for a long time, he’ll have to stop doing 1 and 2.

 

 

[KDIGGZ]

24 minutes ago, Mango said:

Couple things. 
 

1. Josh does have a diet in season. With a dietician, and a target weight. He’s mentioned it himself. He has also said he doesn’t follow them strictly and is heavier than they ask him to be. He doesn’t have one in the off-season  and eats what he wants. 

 

2. This last offseason he said he didn’t do much of anything but rest his body saying it felt good to rest and feel fresh for camp. Some posters have noted that his footwork and mechanics have gotten sloppier through out the year. Do with that what you will. 
 

3. If he wants to keep playing for a long time, he’ll have to stop doing 1 and 2.

 

 

https://a.co/d/15RNFeW

[AlfaBill]

1 hour ago, AuntieEm said:

 

  That is what is so crazy.   Yes it was a photoshopped picture but the pic of him in a riding posture came from somewhere.  Likely the behind scenes video that was full of cringe moments and yet the media team that allowed it and I suppose scripted it really truly makes the photoshop something they would have put out.

 

  I expect his let's ride video snippets to be used in a future warning video about the damages from concussions.  Just like the old frying an egg on a skillet was used to depict your brain on drugs.

This is Russ. This is Russ on CTE. Any questions?