Beck Water Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) OMFG, that roughing penalty. Bills D gets a stop, but Fins pin us at the 2. We get punting room, but not more. D gets another stop, this time preventing a FG on a drive that practically started in FG range. They were fierce. I was proud. Dolphins punt. Then Cam Lewis Enters the Chat. I don't think I've seen a more clearly idiotic play in the last two seasons. Prove me wrong. Edit: OK, I have been proven wrong, by an unexpected source. It is not longer even the most idiotic play I've seen THIS season. Edited December 19, 2022 by Beck Water 1 22 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Yeah that was awful, like you’re off the team awful. He also tried too hard to intercept that Jefferson catch on 4th and 18 instead of knocking it away in my opinion. 5 1 10 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: Yeah that was awful, like you’re off the team awful. He also tried too hard to intercept that Jefferson catch on 4th and 18 instead of knocking it away in my opinion. This^^^^. Activate Ike and cut Cam Lewis to make room. Edited December 18, 2022 by Freddie's Dead 2 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 He should not be on the roster next weekend. Just mind numbingly dumb situational football IQ, in two crucial situations. 4 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 minute ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: Yeah that was awful, like you’re off the team awful. He also tried too hard to intercept that Jefferson catch on 4th and 18 instead of knocking it away in my opinion. Not to pile on the guy, but pretty sure he lost containment on the long Dalvin Cook TD too. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloDave55 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Cut him...today! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFooteball Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I never feel like a game comes down to just one play. But if bills lost last night then a strong case could be made that Cam Lewis single-handedly cost the bills 2 wins 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Cam is an undersized utility DB. The punt play was horrible but even without that he needs to be giving up his roster spot on the 53 to either Ike or Beasley. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Not to pile on the guy, but pretty sure he lost containment on the long Dalvin Cook TD too. Which is more what you expect from a backup to a backup. Bad plays don't concern me as much as selfish ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Jimmy Johnson would have cut this guy before leaving the stadium last night. That one penalty reduced our win percentage by nearly 15%! There are guys on the street who can knock the ball down on 4th and forever and refrain from roughing the kicker. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFooteball Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) Also can someone who knows more advise what is Hamlin’s strength. I understand not going to replace all pro Hyde. Yet multiple times a game (I know he forced fumble last week) I say to myself if Hyde was there then that doesn’t happen. To me either would have speed or excellent tackling. What I see is slow, poor in coverage, poor tackling. Or is that he’s a good tackler but consistently takes poor angles Edited December 18, 2022 by BillsFooteball 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 It seems to me that he wants to be the "hero". That play in the Vikings game and last night's play screamed of an attention/hero type of mentality. Like he needed to make a play for his team to win. He needs to know he not Josh Allen, Stefon Diggs or Von Miller. He's a role player who might've played his arse of the team 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Bills Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillsFooteball said: Also can someone who knows more advise what is Hamlin’s strength. I understand not going to replace all pro Hyde. Yet multiple times a game (I know he forced fumble last week) I say to myself if Hyde was there then that doesn’t happen. To me either would have speed or excellent tackling. What I see is slow, poor in coverage, poor tackling. Or is that he’s a good tackler but consistently takes poor angles I see all the same things as you do. Unfortunately we just don’t have any better options…those angles he takes my god 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, BuffaloDave55 said: Cut him...today! I feel like he's gonna do something stupid in the playoffs to make us lose a la Daryl Porter 4 minutes ago, BillsFooteball said: Also can someone who knows more advise what is Hamlin’s strength. I understand not going to replace all pro Hyde. Yet multiple times a game (I know he forced fumble last week) I say to myself if Hyde was there then that doesn’t happen. To me either would have speed or excellent tackling. What I see is slow, poor in coverage, poor tackling. Or is that he’s a good tackler but consistently takes poor angles Why did we acquire Dean Marlowe? 4 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, BillsFooteball said: Also can someone who knows more advice what is Hamlin’s strength. I understand not going to replace all pro Hyde. Yet multiple times a game (I know he forced fumble last week) I say to myself if Hyde was there then that doesn’t happen. To me either would have speed or excellent tackling. What I see is slow, poor in coverage, poor tackling. Or is that he’s a good tackler but consistently takes poor angles He hardly played on D last season and was thrown in to start this season. He is no Micah Hyde but still can improve. S/FS position he is covering is a critical position in Frazier's D. He will be fighting for a starter job for 2024. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: It seems to me that he wants to be the "hero". That play in the Vikings game and last night's play screamed of an attention/hero type of mentality. Like he needed to make a play for his team to win. He needs to know he not Josh Allen, Stefon Diggs or Von Miller. He's a role player who might've played his arse of the team Totally agree. Especially in 4th and 18. But it’s not just him, it’s all over the league. You see players routinely intercept 4th down passes. Only time that should be done is if the other team is in the red zone and you pick it in the end zone Edited December 18, 2022 by VaMilBill 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I rooted for him due to the UB connection, but a dumb on-field decision nearly single handedly cost us another game. IMO he blew the Vikings game by going for an INT rather than a knockdown, allowing Jefferson to catch it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 One of the biggest bone-headed plays I've ever seen. No excuse for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 What we do at safety will be very interesting this summer. Age has caught up to Poyer and Hyde in the form of injuries, Hamlin isn’t a starter. Johnson and Lewis look like practice squad players. Lots want to see Benford move, I actually want to see it be Taron Johnson who’s a very good NC but I still think is an elite Safety and Benford take the slot. Draft a Safety in the 2nd or 3rd round as well. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 That single play could have cost us the number seed — not saying we have that wrapped up but it's possible — and that single play could have lost us the game last night. He makes McKenzie look like Stephen Hawking. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 22 minutes ago, BillsFooteball said: Also can someone who knows more advise what is Hamlin’s strength. I understand not going to replace all pro Hyde. Yet multiple times a game (I know he forced fumble last week) I say to myself if Hyde was there then that doesn’t happen. To me either would have speed or excellent tackling. What I see is slow, poor in coverage, poor tackling. Or is that he’s a good tackler but consistently takes poor angles He definitely flunked geometry in school!! 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Can Lewis should not be on the field in any circumstances. What happened to Dean Marlowe? Why did we trade for him if he's not going to play? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Yeah this guy seriously needs to be gone. How the *****, in such limited action, does one single player cost the team one home game and almost cost them a second? It's crazy how bad his decision making is. After the first time I thought maybe he's on the take. After yesterday I think any of the coaches or management that wants to keep him here must be on the take. Just crazy crazy stupid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: He makes McKenzie look like Stephen Hawking. In a motorized wheelchair with a synthetic speech generator? 🤔 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 27 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: Yeah that was awful, like you’re off the team awful. He also tried too hard to intercept that Jefferson catch on 4th and 18 instead of knocking it away in my opinion. The failure to batt the pass down was a bad play, but our DBs are legit drilled and drilled and drilled to be ballhawks, until situations arise where they need to knock it down. Yeah, good players have the situational awareness and adjust. Yeah, his failure to knock the pass down arguably cost us the game. But I can understand that it's asking a player to override physical and mental reflexes that have been dinned into them in every meeting and drilled into them on the field all week. Backup players make bad plays, it happens. Under no circumstances is a ST player coached to scoop up the punter and slam him down. That was a real FART ("***** Are you Really Thinking?") kind of a play in my view; no excuse I can think of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Let’s count the ways this team has sucked over their 5 games winning streak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 He didn't just rough the punter in the way it normally happens. He caught him out of the air after the ball was gone, wrapped him up, & up buried him into the ground. Why in the hell would anybody ever try to tackle the punter? That was probably the dumbest play in Bills history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 45 minutes ago, Beck Water said: OMFG, that roughing penalty. Bills D gets a stop, but Fins pin us at the 2. We get punting room, but not more. D gets another stop, this time preventing a FG on a drive that practically started in FG range. They were fierce. I was proud. Dolphins punt. Then Cam Lewis Enters the Chat. I don't think I've seen a more clearly idiotic play in the last two seasons. Prove me wrong. Kind of a weird flex here but ok…not sure who is going to “prove” he should be on the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 It was such a bad play it seemed staged it made me question wtf I was watching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) Unacceptable penalty for a guy already on a short leash (if he isn’t, he should be) after going for the INT over knocking it down against Minnesota.. THE play that allowed the Vikings to win that game. How on earth does a 3rd string spot duty Safety almost cost us two games? Edited December 18, 2022 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 The problem with Cam is he is a marginal Roster player desperate to always make a big play. He is playing for his career every play. Needs to try to play within himself and play smart. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Make him clean all the toilets at OBD for a week, twice a day, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 50 minutes ago, BillsFooteball said: Also can someone who knows more advise what is Hamlin’s strength. I understand not going to replace all pro Hyde. Yet multiple times a game (I know he forced fumble last week) I say to myself if Hyde was there then that doesn’t happen. To me either would have speed or excellent tackling. What I see is slow, poor in coverage, poor tackling. Or is that he’s a good tackler but consistently takes poor angles Hamlin’s main strength is not being Jaquan Johnson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Make him clean all the toilets at OBD for a week, twice a day, The NFLPA would like a word with you. They also said you're fortunate that Gene Upshaw passed away many years ago. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: Kind of a weird flex here but ok…not sure who is going to “prove” he should be on the team I was wondering if someone would "invoke obscure rules" or obscure special teams procedures and tell me it wasn't as much of a brain-dead ***** up as I thought. So far 🦗 on that point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I was wondering if someone would "invoke obscure rules" or obscure special teams procedures and tell me it wasn't as much of a brain-dead ***** up as I thought. So far 🦗 on that point Coach McDermott has a strong faith, and advises the players to play as inspired men of God. Unfortunately, Lewis equated that as 'playing like a saint'. The New Orleans Saints of 2009-11. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Speaking of ST, anyone notice our two ST aces both getting called for a penalty on the same play? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: OMFG, that roughing penalty. Bills D gets a stop, but Fins pin us at the 2. We get punting room, but not more. D gets another stop, this time preventing a FG on a drive that practically started in FG range. They were fierce. I was proud. Dolphins punt. Then Cam Lewis Enters the Chat. I don't think I've seen a more clearly idiotic play in the last two seasons. Prove me wrong. 4th and 18 against the Vikings not knocking the ball down. I sense a pattern here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I hope he doesn’t have hot water this morning when he showers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Coach McDermott has a strong faith, and advises the players to play as inspired men of God. Unfortunately, Lewis equated that as 'playing like a saint'. The New Orleans Saints of 2009-11. post of the year. Bravo! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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