Bill Grundy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, RoscoeParrish said: I hope we win it all too, but to claim “excitement” as a positive of his recent play is moronic. No. He's exciting. He was exciting today. Some of his runs. Some of his improv stuff. He's an exciting player. Exciting players also make msitakes. If you are going to have an enigmatic player this is part of package I'm afraid. Let a little fun into your life 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsforumsucks Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 We have 2 losing teams next and after that not a single team with a losing record. We will be lucky to split the remainder and that does not get us in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) He's Brett Favre at this point. His OC lacks answers when the opposing DC makes adjustments so Josh feels like he has to do everything himself in the second halves of games. They need a professional adult to coach this offense. Edited November 13, 2022 by Coach Tuesday 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, LondonBill said: I'm sorry you've grown up watching a football team that's never lost a game before I hope Josh wins the Lombardi trophy and puts the pointy end right up you. If we win the SB I'll put the pointy end up myself 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Can't wait for the MVP thread update. "Allen suffers 3rd consecutive terrible performance, but hey he still leads the league in interceptions" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, LondonBill said: No. He's exciting. He was exciting today. Some of his runs. Some of his improv stuff. He's an exciting player. Exciting players also make msitakes. If you are going to have an enigmatic player this is part of package I'm afraid. Let a little fun into your life Yes, I'm sure we'll hold a parade when we fail to make the post season because his 'exciting' play leads to boneheaded losses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, DrBob806 said: Well that stat indeed sucks, but be careful.The Browns sent Mayfield packing for a variety of reasons, one being interceptions. Look at that mess now. And most of it has nothing to do with Brissett. Plus, it's been 9 games with a backup. Clevelands defense is the main issue right now. Talent, but bad communication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 This is not a good statistic, but we just have to hope Josh gets it back under control and this goes away. What choice do we have? He can get it back under control. And if he doesn't, we won't have the season we all hoped for. And then you focus on next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Daniel Jones looks pretty good. so much is coaching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, UKBillFan said: Yes, I'm sure we'll hold a parade when we fail to make the post season because his 'exciting' play leads to boneheaded losses. We won't fail to make postseason, Charlie Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, Roundybout said: And he is our entire offense. I will not blame him for this loss. I've always been a huge Josh guy. Blamed lack of weapons in 18 and 19. Came to his defense when he's made dumb mistakes in the past. But if this week and last week aren't on him, who are they on? He's been a shell of himself since the bye week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Flucod said: Look at the remaining schedule and then other teams schedule an show me how? You think we are winning out? Cleveland 3-6 Detroit 3-6 Jets at home (we lost by 3 away) Dolphins (we lost by 2 away) Chicago 3-7 2x Patriots (say we win one at home) Bengals 5-4 If we lose the playoffs to these teams when we already beat the Chiefs, Ravens, and Titans then I would be surprised 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, thenorthremembers said: I've always been a huge Josh guy. Blamed lack of weapons in 18 and 19. Came to his defense when he's made dumb mistakes in the past. But if this week and last week aren't on him, who are they on? He's been a shell of himself since the bye week. I would blame Cam Lewis and the defense more than Josh. Really, I blame Dorsey and the coaching for refusing to use the talent they have in guys like Cook and Hynes to take the weight off Allen's shoulders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, LondonBill said: No. He's exciting. He was exciting today. Some of his runs. Some of his improv stuff. He's an exciting player. Exciting players also make msitakes. If you are going to have an enigmatic player this is part of package I'm afraid. Let a little fun into your life I think you’re confusing the word exciting for careless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: This is not a good statistic, but we just have to hope Josh gets it back under control and this goes away. What choice do we have? He can get it back under control. And if he doesn't, we won't have the season we all hoped for. And then you focus on next year. I'm pretty certain Josh will find his footing again, and despite my sarcastic reply, he is a talent and exciting player. But if he fails to do so (long way to go) we'll have some difficult questions to answer come the off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 We don't need him to be great every play, we just need him to stop hurting us Soo badly & play competent, complimentary football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, RoscoeParrish said: I think you’re confusing the word exciting for careless Some of his runs are careless? No, that doesn't work. IF you don't think Josh Allen is an exciting player to watch, then I'm not going to persuade you. But he IS. That's not the same as being perfect. Which, of course, most people watching a game on TV demand people are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: I would blame Cam Lewis and the defense more than Josh. Really, I blame Dorsey and the coaching for refusing to use the talent they have in guys like Cook and Hynes to take the weight off Allen's shoulders. Fair enough but Jefferson is one of the best guys going, he gets his every week. I agree with you on Dorset. That said, the game was all but over when Josh threw it to the wrong team in the end zone and then gifted them the game on the fumble. He is a turnover machine this year and we are seeing the worst of it right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, B-Large said: These fans…. Did you not live through 2000-2016….. So the logic here is that we can’t discuss the struggles of this year because of what happened during the drought? Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhill Mike Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, B-Large said: These fans…. Did you not live through 2000-2016….. I'm wondering how so many of us made it through the late nineties and the drought that followed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, LondonBill said: Some of his runs are careless? No, that doesn't work. IF you don't think Josh Allen is an exciting player to watch, then I'm not going to persuade you. But he IS. That's not the same as being perfect. Which, of course, most people watching a game on TV demand people are. This thread was created to discuss our franchise QB leading the league in interceptions, which is beyond concerning. I am not sure what you’re even talking about. Sure, he makes exciting plays. Happy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: Our franchise QB leads the league in interceptions. What is scary is he should have more if you count all the near INTs. Is Josh, Carson Wentz? MVP to collapse overnight? I think the fame has gotten to him and he is pressing because of it. Hero ball. Some can handle it, others can’t. Sad why don't you go pick another team to root for. He also leads the league in passing yards and played with an elbow most others probably sit out with. our you one of those that wish we still took Rosen? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, Sandhill Mike said: I'm wondering how so many of us made it through the late nineties and the drought that followed. I definitely did. Don't change the fact that this team is a talented team that finds ways to lose. Today's game was a tough one, they won and still found a way to mess it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoolhouserock Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 22 minutes ago, Big Turk said: I think he is pressing too much in the second half of games because the offense isn't scoring points. If I am not mistaken all of the INTs the last 3 games have been in the 2nd half correct? Can we get a thread on Josh Allen’s assault on the all time INT list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: Our franchise QB leads the league in interceptions. What is scary is he should have more if you count all the near INTs. Is Josh, Carson Wentz? MVP to collapse overnight? I think the fame has gotten to him and he is pressing because of it. Hero ball. Some can handle it, others can’t. Sad He's reverting to some bad habits. Get Jordan Palmer on the phone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, KHAN said: I gotta admit I never saw this type of regression happening in year 5. Just have to hope it's just a phase that he comes out of soon. The red zone turnovers are devastating. did you not watch him mid-season last year? Short memory - he'll be quite fine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, Turbo44 said: why don't you go pick another team to root for. He also leads the league in passing yards and played with an elbow most others probably sit out with. our you one of those that wish we still took Rosen? Just concerned that our franchise QB leads the league in interceptions. Figured that’d be worthy of a topic. 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: He's reverting to some bad habits. Get Jordan Palmer on the phone. and a shrink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: did you not watch him mid-season last year? Short memory - he'll be quite fine Was never throwing the ball directly to defenders. Was never coming up small or hurting us when the game was on the line. This is new. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: He's Brett Favre at this point. His OC lacks answers when the opposing DC makes adjustments so Josh feels like he has to do everything himself in the second halves of games. They need a professional adult to coach this offense. Yep, that's exactly who he reminds me of, an early career Brett Favre. The team expects him to do everything and Allen is putting too much pressure on himself, forcing things and making mistakes. I think most of these problems would disappear if they could reliably run the ball. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, RoscoeParrish said: This thread was created to discuss our franchise QB leading the league in interceptions, which is beyond concerning. I am not sure what you’re even talking about. Sure, he makes exciting plays. Happy? Yeah he throws interceptions. We've seen all of them with our own eyes. We don't need a chart. Enjoy your thread. Isolating our main man's flaws and fixating on them is what life's all about. #teamjosh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 The second coming of Carson Wentz. Trade him while he has some value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I know what's wrong with Josh Allen. He is trying to keep up with Mahomes and he is not on his level. Now he leads the NFL in turnovers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 This thread is so stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: Was never throwing the ball directly to defenders. I suspect there's also some miscommunication happening between Allen and some of the receivers and that sometimes they're not where he expects them to be. Whether that's on them or Allen, I couldn't say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, LondonBill said: Yeah he throws interceptions. We've seen all of them with our own eyes. We don't need a chart. Enjoy your thread. Isolating our main man's flaws and fixating on them is what life's all about. #teamjosh My bad. I’ll only talk about our franchise QBs positives moving forward and blame Dorsey or the refs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: Our franchise QB leads the league in interceptions. What is scary is he should have more if you count all the near INTs. Is Josh, Carson Wentz? MVP to collapse overnight? I think the fame has gotten to him and he is pressing because of it. Hero ball. Some can handle it, others can’t. Sad Since the bye - 3 games , 6 int , 1 fumble . **4 Red Zone interceptions** You won't win much with RZ turnovers Hard to pin those numbers on anyone but the QB I think it's something psychological He's got more sponsors, national Commercials. MVP favorite. SB favorite. I think it's starting to get in his head he has to be Superman. He had multiple check downs available that ended up losing or not gaining yards. Or a turnover Idk but this is a concerning trend Edited November 13, 2022 by JerseyBills 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, MarlinTheMagician said: This thread is so stupid. Board is filled with opinions. Factual threads are needed from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, Flucod said: I don’t think we make the playoffs this year. There are now 7 playoff spots. If the Bills don't make it, McDermott should be fired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: My bad. I’ll only talk about our franchise QBs positives moving forward and blame Dorsey or the refs. Good boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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