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8 minutes ago, Nelius said:

Flew 2500 miles and bought the most expensive Bills tickets of my life for this. Talked myself into being fine with Case but this now feels like a gd holiday. Tomorrow is going to be insane.

 

I will be there also, first game for me in 5 years.  Looking forward to it!

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2 minutes ago, boater said:

I have info second hand, from an MD.

 

JA17 has a UCL sprain. It needs 4 weeks to  heal. If you rush it, you risk career ending injury.

 

Start Case Keenum tomorrow.


Mr.MD hasn’t personally examined Josh’s arm

 

with how cautious this team has been with Tre White, Poyer and others…

 

I don’t see any way they put him out there if what Mr.MD said were true.

 

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19 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

Am I the only one concerned about him aggravating the injury?

As cautious as they are with injuries on this team, if they thought their franchise player was in danger of potentially making an injury worse if he played, which would jeopardize this team's entire remaining season, he wouldn't even be active tomorrow.

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56 minutes ago, eball said:


You have fallen into the trap of listening to medical “experts” who have seen nothing other than game tape and are being paid by gambling sites to prognosticate on injury prognosis. It’s a disgrace to the medical profession. Wise up. 
 

Eman, after all these years, wise up?

 

you’ve been a friend.  I’m disappointed in you.  I’ve had youre back for years.

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11 minutes ago, boater said:

I have info second hand, from an MD.

 

JA17 has a UCL sprain. It needs 4 weeks to  heal. If you rush it, you risk career ending injury.

 

Start Case Keenum tomorrow.


Well I just had a looong conversation with an MD at my Narcotics Anonymous meeting and he said Allen can get some clean percocets on the street that will guarantee him flying over LBs. 

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3 hours ago, JayBaller10 said:

Whether or not he played, to me it was a sign of how the Bills view the #1 seed and a first round bye. To date they’ve been extra cautious with players, seemingly overly so, but when #17 can go against a quality opponent versus sitting out, everyone involved wants him to play. Let’s just hope the injury doesn’t worsen. The way I understand it, it’d have to be another hit similar to the first and that he can’t tear it further just by throwing the ball. With that said, maybe there’s a chance Keenum starts and Allen is there in case the offense can’t move the ball.

I just can't believe Josh is going to start and play the game.

 

The only that makes sense to me is if his "injury" was a hell of a lot more minor than we all thought it was.

 

 

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42 minutes ago, Logic said:


"Thinking they're smart" or believing the national reports of a small UCL tear and making an educated guess as to how many games he'd miss based on similar injuries to Josh and other players in the past?

 

Let's just see what happens.


If Josh starts and worsens the injury, it could end our season.

 

I'm still not convinced he playing; it just doesn't make sense.

 

 

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1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

You have such a short sighted few of this scenario

 

There is so much game left to be played in this season.....in your scenario what do we do if he injures it further and cant play against AFC East opponents?

He could get injured any play 

 

This team is safe with injuries if they felt real season ending danger I don’t think they would let him play

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Just now, Nextmanup said:

I just can't believe Josh is going to start and play the game.

 

The only that makes sense to me is if his "injury" was a hell of a lot more minor than we all thought it was.

 

 

Which may well be the case.  None of those posting on the internet saw Josh's MRI, Xrays, or examined Josh's arm.  They were posting opinions based on general knowledge regarding UCLs.  I don't believe for a second, that the Bills would jeopardize their franchise QB for one game, if he were not able to play.

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2 hours ago, hemma said:

Wet ball tomorrow and it is unlikely his grip will be stronger.

I’m ok if he comes in as a last resort /backup with a heavy, protective wrap.

Even damaged, better than Barkley.

 

Good news it sounds like he’s a quick healer.

Impossible to say that right now; we don't know what he's going to do, if anything, and we have no idea of the extent of the "injury" in the first place.

 

 

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41 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

They don't have to, they have PS call ups they can do for the game that wouldn't cost a roster spot.

Yeah, Sal said something about that a few days ago, how they can do it three times (I think) before they have to make a roster change. I was driving at the time so can't remember the details.

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2 hours ago, Steptide said:

I know Allen starting isn't 100% certain yet, but assuming he does, Imo this was the most over blown injury in bills history 

If he starts, we'll know he wasn't really "injured" at all.

 

More of a "dinged up" type situation.

 

If it actually is an injury, and he starts, someone should be fired.

 

 

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39 minutes ago, Nelius said:

Flew 2500 miles and bought the most expensive Bills tickets of my life for this. Talked myself into being fine with Case but this now feels like a gd holiday. Tomorrow is going to be insane.

I’m coming in for the game from Windsor Ontario. I felt the same and bought into the Case Diggs revenge game for a win. Super pumped now and hopefully everyone can  just stay healthy as I spent quite a bit for the Thanksgiving game as well. 

Let’s Go!! 

 

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2 hours ago, Wayne Cubed said:


That’s kind of how I see it. Or they don’t think he’s a full go and he’s on a pitch count.

I don't see how a "pitch count" makes any sense at all with White and his injury.

 

I know people in the press keep repeating this.

 

Either he can play without risk of any injury, etc., and is strong enough to play, or he isn't.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, mikemac2001 said:

He could get injured any play 

 

This team is safe with injuries if they felt real season ending danger I don’t think they would let him play

Yes but for the board idiots that think he should play at any cost.

 

What would be the worst case scenario for tomorrow

 

We lose

We fall a game behind someone in our conference

We would stilll be 6 and 3

and.......Josh Allen heals.   Does anybody really think we are going to lose home games with a healthy Allen against the jets and fins?

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2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

Hey, I’m happy he can be the emergency  backup meaning he’s capable of needed, but I really hope they rest him.  That injury can worsen and it wouldn’t kill them to let Case play vs. an opponent not really in the equation for the matchups as it pertains to the playoffs.  It’s more important he’s there for the Brownies next week.

 

what’s the harm in a rest week, and babying that elbow for 13 days.  I just don’t want the nightmare of it getting worse.  It’s an irrational fear as I know he’s tough as nails. 

Every word you write here is correct, which is why I don't think he's playing.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Yes but for the board idiots that think he should play at any cost.

 

What would be the worst case scenario for tomorrow

 

We lose

We fall a game behind someone in our conference

We would stilll be 6 and 3

and.......Josh Allen heals.   Does anybody really think we are going to lose home games with a healthy Allen against the jets and fins?


Perhaps he has already healed?

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35 minutes ago, boater said:

I have info second hand, from an MD.

 

JA17 has a UCL sprain. It needs 4 weeks to  heal. If you rush it, you risk career ending injury.

 

Start Case Keenum tomorrow.

"An MD" who personally examined JA17 or otherwise discussed his status with someone with direct knowledge?

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A random spattering of comments from Twitter:

 

Can’t beat Tua

 

Very poor idea

 

Welp: there goes the Thanksgiving Game #Lions

 

This is not an accurate headline. We don't know if Allen will start or be the backup.

 

He wasn't even wearing a brace on Friday. The media speculation well exceeded what the Bills actually disclosed.

 

This is a very bad decision.

 

Big mistake.

 

He fitting to throw for 73 yards

 

Incoming Tommy John Surgery bc #BILLS careless and Reckless behavior!! This called for Rest, multiple weeks. UCL Tears don't just magically heal. Everyone who knows anything medically from Dr Chao etc. Rest. Yet #Bills are determined to jeopardize their franchise Qb

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21 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

I just can't believe Josh is going to start and play the game.

 

The only that makes sense to me is if his "injury" was a hell of a lot more minor than we all thought it was.

 

 

It was always, always, always a possibility that he just tweaked the nerve. The hindsight where he was massaging his forearm and flexing his fingers, rather than on his knees in pain like last time, before flicking one 70 yards in the air, makes that even more likely. 

 

There was just mass hysteria and shoddy reporting. 

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21 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

I just can't believe Josh is going to start and play the game.

 

The only that makes sense to me is if his "injury" was a hell of a lot more minor than we all thought it was.

 

 

That’s the most likely scenario…the guy hurt his elbow and then threw an absolute rocket on the next pass is all we know for a fact.
 

everything else was nfl reporters tweeting in a way like ‘bills fear josh Allen may have a serious elbow injury’

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This is getting ridiculous - We appear to have a super conservative team when it comes to the handling of injuries - If Josh plays, he's viewed as essentially 100% with no risk of injury or "injury" getting worse.  NONE of us are privy to the actual results of MRIs, etc. and NONE of us have spoken with the actual team physician(s), and even if someone has, HIPPA likely prevents any discussion of what the physicians know about his health status.  There has been speculation all week and we as Bills fans had every reason to be SUPER worried, but the actual data points are what they are and if we see no activation of Barkley, and Josh starting, that fills in all of the blanks for us, by and large.

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