TampaBillsJunkie Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Watkins101 said: If Case Keenum started 5 games, would the Bills be 9-3 right now? 7-5 but depends on which 5 games he started. Edited December 6, 2022 by TampaBillsJunkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Just off reading vibes, Jerry Jones sounded the exact opposite of Sean McDermott today. Didn’t see/hear, what did McDermott sound like? Anyone have a link for the audio or vid? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cablesabres68 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Just now, mrags said: Didn’t see/hear, what did McDermott sound like? Anyone have a link for the audio or vid? Page 87 half way down I think is the video 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: Stevenson didn't count towards the active roster, he was on IR. I'll own it, I misread it the way Sal typed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 I really am shocked McDermott openly spoke about him. The standard answer is, “respectfully I won’t go into that” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, SCBills said: Just off reading vibes, Jerry Jones sounded the exact opposite of Sean McDermott today. How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I really am shocked McDermott openly spoke about him. The standard answer is, “respectfully I won’t go into that” Ty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Now that he had a problematic physical can we just forget this diva please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Logic said: Yeah. Pretty awful. He needs to stop dropping catchable passes and to be more reliable when called upon. To be fair, though...in terms of catch percentage, DK Metcalf is ranked 91st. Brandon Aiyuk 87th. The great Justin Jefferson is ranked 75th. A receiver can be highly productive in the NFL and still have a below average catch %. But yeah, he needs to clean it up. I'm glad we can agree that 52% is awful..........but I wouldn't exactly say calling out those guys numbers is being fair. The very top WR catch% guys are DeAndre Hopkins and Cooper Kupp at around 76%..............Metcalf all the way down at 91st overall still catches 67% of his targets. Davis is a freakin' country mile away from the pack at 52%. And it's not an outlier. When he was facing teams 3rd and 4th CB's in his first 2 seasons he was a 55% catch guy. Edited December 7, 2022 by BADOLBILZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Beck Water said: How so? Jerry Jones was pretty hesitant given Odell isn’t working out. Not sure if he was expecting him to or what.. Contrast that with McDermott, who was bonkers open about Odell given his usual buttoned up self. Also doesn’t seem to have the same worries re: Odell’s health. Edited December 7, 2022 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beck Water Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I really am shocked McDermott openly spoke about him. The standard answer is, “respectfully I won’t go into that” He did a "respectfully, I won't go into that" (or equivalent) 2x in that clip: once when asked about if OBJ wanted a commitment for more than this year, and once when asked about what contributions he saw him making this season. And he didn't exactly say he had faith in OBJ's health, he said "once we get that far" he'd put his faith and trust in the medical team. A little bit different.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Beck Water said: He did a "respectfully, I won't go into that" (or equivalent) 2x in that clip: once when asked about if OBJ wanted a commitment for more than this year, and once when asked about what contributions he saw him making this season. And he didn't exactly say he had faith in OBJ's health, he said "once we get that far" he'd put his faith and trust in the medical team. A little bit different.... I still would be surprised if he signs here, but you must be listening to a different Sean McDermott than me if you think that wasn’t a quite openly conversational McDermott right there. Contrast that to hype obsessed Jerry Jones being surprisingly reserved in his comments today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, SCBills said: Jerry Jones was pretty hesitant given Odell isn’t working out. Not sure if he was expecting him to or what.. Contrast that with McDermott, who was bonkers open about Odell given his usual buttoned up self. Also doesn’t seem to have the same worries re: Odell’s health. I personally think McDermott was doing something he does pretty well there: appearing very open, while actually committing himself to nothing. Thad Brown FWIW takes the viewpoint that Jerry was "negotiating a contract in public" there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Just now, Beck Water said: I personally think McDermott was doing something he does pretty well there: appearing very open, while actually committing himself to nothing. Thad Brown FWIW takes the viewpoint that Jerry was "negotiating a contract in public" there. I definitely there could be some of that for Jones. Would have to think they have an idea that OBJ is either dead set on Dallas or they are still prepared to offer more than Buffalo (or NY) to be taking it public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beck Water Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, SCBills said: And we ought to have the same sticking points, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, SCBills said: I definitely there could be some of that for Jones. Would have to think they have an idea that OBJ is either dead set on Dallas or they are still prepared to offer more than Buffalo (or NY) to be taking it public. I looked it up, and the Bills actually have a #2 and #3 WR who have contributed more yards and more receptions than the Cowboys #2 and #3 WR: 35/665 and 35/359 vs. 30/399 and 35/343. For Dallas, is that felt to be because they didn't have much of a passing game with Cooper Rush? OR is it because Amari Cooper and Cedrick Wilson > Noah Brown and Michael Gallup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 The way Jerry Jones publicly spoke of him today virtually rules out any chance of him signing there. Sean on the other hand, “stood up” for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: The way Jerry Jones publicly spoke of him today virtually rules out any chance of him signing there. Sean on the other hand, “stood up” for him OBJ may just be a dude who wants money and fame.. I don’t know … But what I do know .. I’m not signing with a team led by an owner who traded the previous big name WR out for a bag of chips because he wouldn’t get vaxxed and then decided to take my negotiations public. Thats just me though.. Edited December 7, 2022 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 For Odel Beckham, this is not working .. His only chance is team friendly deal. Place him immediately on IR then maybe he plays 2 or 3 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 End thread. He ain’t playing this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 35 minutes ago, SCBills said: Not sure how Odell expects to get a multi year deal when he won’t even work out with teams. I think there’s definitely some truth to what was reported with Dallas. Best case scenario seems like a one-year deal, but there seems to be doubt as to whether he’ll be ready by the playoffs 4 minutes ago, balln said: End thread. He ain’t playing this year I think this a definite possibility. He was injured in February 2022 and probably had surgery shorty after. That puts his recovery at about 10 months, which is on the shorter end of the recommended 9-12 months. Out of all that hype, he might not even sign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Not sure how Odell expects to get a multi year deal when he won’t even work out with teams. I think there’s definitely some truth to what was reported with Dallas. Best case scenario seems like a one-year deal, but there seems to be doubt as to whether he’ll be ready by the playoffs It’s deal for the next year or two, but by coming back this year the cap hit and structure might be more flexible. It also puts winning teams in contention for his services without having to brush off the others egregiously before March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Coach and Josh both seemed upbeat, at the possibility of signing him. We shall see. He's obviously not 100% yet. But in say 3-4 weeks, sounds like that would be the time he needs to get back into football shape/learn the playbook. Then he'd be building chemistry with Josh and the offense, around the Bengals / Pats game. Obvious thing, is if the money is right for us/him without prohibiting us to resign some key pieces. If he can only contribute for the playoffs, that's exactly what we need...goal would be getting the chemistry down leading up to that (while continuing his rehab). He'd primarily be in the slot/another Diggs type that we can move around. Even at 90%, he's an upgrade over what we have in the slot currently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, balln said: End thread. He ain’t playing this year This is at least the 2nd time you've tried to end this thread.... but yet it keeps on growing?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, gobills1212 said: This is at least the 2nd time you've tried to end this thread.... but yet it keeps on growing?! I have to keep coming back daily …. JUST IN CASE there’s some news. Then invariably….. it’s just nonsense … Like pruning weeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said: It’s deal for the next year or two, but by coming back this year the cap hit and structure might be more flexible. It also puts winning teams in contention for his services without having to brush off the others egregiously before March. I guess but committing a two-year deal to a player that won’t even work out to show where he is at is a risk. Like Jerry, I’m not too sure many GM’s would make that deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, balln said: I have to keep coming back daily …. JUST IN CASE there’s some news. Then invariably….. it’s just nonsense … Like pruning weeds. Pretty sure when he actually signs somewhere the thread will come to an end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Pretty sure when he actually signs somewhere the thread will come to an end. Ugh I can’t wait. I bet the “favorite” in the odds of OBJ outcome……. Is…… he goes unsigned this year . I’d pound the table giants ? No way. They know they’re a qb away first dal? Jerry / and other reports out of dal basically say no way buf? Beane isn’t gonna do dumb ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Please don’t let this thread hit 100 pages. I don’t know if I can take it anymore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 21 minutes ago, JohnNord said: I guess but committing a two-year deal to a player that won’t even work out to show where he is at is a risk. Like Jerry, I’m not too sure many GM’s would make that deal Boom or bust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 It just keeps coming ! https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/12/06/odell-beckham-should-be-upset-that-cowboys-leaked-information-about-his-knee/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 The Cowboys are driving then right to us here. Unless he gets really pissed Ava wants to go to the Giants to beat them…but Daniel Jones? Cmon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 So what if Buffalo signs OBJ and he never contributes this season? and what if Von’s knee doesn’t allow him to continue this season? That would be something. Maybe those guys sheer presence in the locker room are enough to will the Bills to the SB. What are those chances!? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 29 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said: Please don’t let this thread hit 100 pages. I don’t know if I can take it anymore This is what OBJ is holding out for! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) McD was very good & diplomatic on the Rich Eisen show. Nothing that would upset OBJ, drive him away or sounds in anyway like we aren't interested. (Starts @ 4:12 mark) https://youtu.be/nxT5gwEVkvw Edited December 7, 2022 by Donuts and Doritos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, balln said: It just keeps coming ! https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/12/06/odell-beckham-should-be-upset-that-cowboys-leaked-information-about-his-knee/ So wait, you want the thread to end so you keep coming back to it and feeding it? This is like saying you want your firepit to burn out, while adding another log. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Is this thing still on? I thought someone ended this thread. Oh well, on to 100. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 28 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: The Cowboys are driving then right to us here. Unless he gets really pissed Ava wants to go to the Giants to beat them…but Daniel Jones? Cmon who’s Ava? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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