billsfan89 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Huh? Their “off the street” kicker can make a 59-yarder? Wow. After missing badly on a kick in the early 40’s none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EffKCChiefs Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Just now, buffblue said: It's definitely going overboard. Was it a terrible call? Yes, but c'mon. Then again these are the morons who do the tomahawk chop, so 🤷 Exactly. I doubt there's a full set of teeth in that entire crowd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Just now, Scott7975 said: You cant land with your full bodyweight on a QB and he did. When tackling a passer who is in a defenseless posture (e.g., during or just after throwing a pass), a defensive player must not unnecessarily or violently throw him down or land on top of him with all or most of the defender’s weight. Instead, the defensive player must strive to wrap up the passer with the defensive player’s arms and not land on the passer with all or most of his body weight. But he used one arm to some how meaningfully stop that, even though it was basically fully extended by the time he already landed on him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Murdock Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said: Keep it up KC fans. Boo this sorry excuse for a refereeing crew the entire 2nd half. These scum bags are going to kill the game of football. The NFL and he refs need to fix this NOW. "Scum bags" Get a grip... It was a marginal call at best. He put his full weight on the QB... You obvious have other problems that need attention.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Just now, BigDingus said: The Raiders have already had their drives extended 3 times from penalties (automatic 1st downs), and now an overturned turnover. Even if it was that ONE call alone, that's still proof Chiefs don't get "all the calls." I thought the pass interference calls were correct. My point is the roughing the passer call doesn’t mean KC has been getting screwed all night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 The Raiders outplayed them in the first half, they deserve to be winning the game. On the roughing the passer call...meh...I don't like the rule to but that's what it is. He landed with his bodyweight on him, been a rule for a while now. Not sure what Jones is supposed to do in that situation but they called it right based on how it's written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Still love Berman’s highlights…. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: He & Aikman are insufferable I thought it was funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Just now, mannc said: Still love Berman’s highlights…. Yeah, but man he's sounding old compared to just a couple years ago... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: So Chris Jones while moving with speed and hitting Carr and going to the ground on top of him caught his full weight with one arm? He caught the ball with one hand, and held up part of his weight with the other. If the rule is that a player can't put his full weight into a QB, then holding up part of your weight should be enough to avoid the penalty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaru523 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Referees ruin sports for me, they can be soooo bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Just now, Scott7975 said: You cant land with your full bodyweight on a QB and he did. When tackling a passer who is in a defenseless posture (e.g., during or just after throwing a pass), a defensive player must not unnecessarily or violently throw him down or land on top of him with all or most of the defender’s weight. Instead, the defensive player must strive to wrap up the passer with the defensive player’s arms and not land on the passer with all or most of his body weight. The problem with your reasoning is that Jones had the football in his hand. The only way he could soften the blow and not land full weight on Carr was to drop the ball and spread his arms out. Last time I checked that would have been a fumble by Jones. The refs should have huddled and once it was known that Jones had the ball in his hand waved off the flag. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Thad with another terrible take 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Huh? Their “off the street” kicker can make a 59-yarder? Wow. Butker was an "off the street" kicker at one point too for them... Well, off the Carolina PS but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EffKCChiefs Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 A half of football is about all I can stand watching the Chiefs. Goodnight, !#$@% KC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) That Jones Roughing is what I call the "Tua Dividend" 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 Edited October 11, 2022 by wjag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Tom Pelluisero put it best: Jones first player ever to be called for roughing the passer while holding the ball 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: I can't really sympathize with that stadium losing their damn minds over a call that maybe cost them 3 points. Let it go, already. You're still about 10,000 bad calls against from being even for the past few years. So shut up. 3-7 points depending if they got a TD or field goal, and allowed the raiders to get a field goal. So It was a 6-10 point swing. If this happened to the bills, let's call a spade a spade, we would be livid lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Hopefully the NFL makes some corrections after the Brady and Carr roughing the passer penalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Refs deciding games is bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ross Murdock said: "Scum bags" Get a grip... It was a marginal call at best. He put his full weight on the QB... You obvious have other problems that need attention.. He had the football in his hands. How do you suggest he avoid landing on Carr while maintaining possession of the ball? Levitate using telekinesis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 minute ago, gobills404 said: I thought it was funny And perfectly relevant and fair. Don't want to get called out like that? Don't piss away an AFCCG berth with a classic meltdown! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Vegas not going for it twice on 4th and short with the offense rolling means they’ve left 8 points on the field. Don’t play scared against the chiefs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said: The problem with your reasoning is that Jones had the football in his hand. The only way he could soften the blow and not land full weight on Carr was to drop the ball and spread his arms out. Last time I checked that would have been a fumble by Jones. The refs should have huddled and once it was known that Jones had the ball in his hand waved off the flag. The rule does not allow for "but he had the ball in his hand." The rule is pretty clear. As I said earlier, I think the rule is crap but its the rule none the less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Motorin' said: He caught the ball with one hand, and held up part of his weight with the other. If the rule is that a player can't put his full weight into a QB, then holding up part of your weight should be enough to avoid the penalty. Yeah, he changed focus and it cost him, that one arm didn't do much of anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 minute ago, TFBillsfan said: Hopefully the NFL makes some corrections after the Brady and Carr roughing the passer penalties. Brady and Carr AND ALLEN roughing the passer penalties 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Thad with another terrible take They need to be able to have penalities quickly reviewed. Anything call that is clear and obviously wrong should be immediately changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 minute ago, TFBillsfan said: Hopefully the NFL makes some corrections after the Brady and Carr roughing the passer penalties. The crowd booed for a solid 10 to 15 minutes! And they may not be done yet. This will get a lot of air play around the league this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Chiefs gonna win this. McDaniels coaching not to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Impressions …. Chief’s offense is good to crazy good, week to week. Chief’s defense isn’t scary good. It may not be good. If the Raiders put up 20 in 30 minutes, the Bills should score early and often. ”On any given week” acknowledged, I like our chances against this particular version of the Chiefs. How does a dollars billion industry fail to get refereeing correct, game to week to season …. rouging the passer? I’d not travel to that stadium to see a football game if you gave me club seats with Ingrid Bergman, 1945 version. Ingrid, not the stadium. Someone, earlier, called the Chiefs boring. I’d not say boring, but the gadgetry leaves me unj-satiated. Poyer, Phillips, Edmunds healthy … I like our chances. Knox, McKenzie, Gabe … i really like our chances. Short week, grateful. We’ve suffered some schedule quirks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 This is why coaches should have a right to criticize ref calls. The refs need to be held accountable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Motorin' said: He caught the ball with one hand, and held up part of his weight with the other. If the rule is that a player can't put his full weight into a QB, then holding up part of your weight should be enough to avoid the penalty. It says "all or most." His one arm is not stopping all that body weight. Probably not much of it at all. They essentially want you to turn with the body or land only partially on top. Thats a call anytime a full body lands on top of a QB. Edited October 11, 2022 by Scott7975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: The crowd booed for a solid 10 to 15 minutes! And they may not be done yet. This will get a lot of air play around the league this week. They were already salty that they weren't being allowed their normal PI allotment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 The call is fine. The rule is stupid. A defender should be able to land on the QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calidiehard Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: 3-7 points depending if they got a TD or field goal, and allowed the raiders to get a field goal. So It was a 6-10 point swing. If this happened to the bills, let's call a spade a spade, we would be livid lol It happened to us for 20 years with Brady in the division. If they lose they will blame that call, but they were already losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Just now, Scott7975 said: It says "all or most." His one arm is not stopping all that body weight. Probably not much of it at all. I guess he should have stopped, dropped and rolled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 When a call is borderline, keep the flag in your pocket. It's really that easy. Loose games are so much more enjoyable and overall a better product. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry jones Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) Dude running full speed at a close to stationary QB. How in the hell are you supposed to not fall on him with your own weight?? Edited October 11, 2022 by henry jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 So I made a couple of "can't miss" small wagers on this game, and of course I'm getting creamed. Not using CEH at all. I mean WTF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Motorin' said: I guess he should have stopped, dropped and rolled. Thats pretty much what they want to happen which is why the rule is stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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