NFL WEEK #4 - Bills at Ravens - Post Game Thread

[Buddo]

Lots to work on.

 

Good adjustments on both sides of the football though after the half.

 

Seems like we sometimes need time to figure things out.

 

Credit the Ravens with the amount of passes they got something on though, as it was the main thing that really kept us stymied on offense in the first half, alonside the fact our receivers couldn't catch a cold.

 

Poyers 2nd interception was a great read and play. If there was a turning point in the game, that was it.

 

Thought the roughing call on Allen was fair enough. If the guy hadn't paused before hitting him, he might have got away with it, but the pause did for him - it meant he obviously didn't have to follow through.

 

This team has no quit in it, and they should enjoy this one.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

I am on board with the Shakir fan boys. A couple clutch catches and great blocks by him. I want to see more

[nedboy7]

3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I mean one of them spent the whole game explaining why the ravens we’re not getting called for a penalty here and there That guy is awful

 

His description of when a receiver becomes a runner was quite stunning.  Am I wrong on this? 

[Billz4ever]

4 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

And to think as great as he has been we easily could be 4-0 if he makes one of the easier INT's for a pick six he will ever see.

I hope he keeps doing what he's doing but takes some drills with the WR/TEs this week to remember what catching the ball feels like 😂.

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, Neo said:

I’ve been thinking about this.   The Bills proved there was time to drive to the one yard line with a first down and a minute to go.   In other words, had they kicked the field goal, they’d still be finished.   I’m not saying going for 7 was the best call, but I’ll say it’s as defensible and explainable as going for 3.

Harbaugh went for it instead of taking the 3 out of fear of the certainty of Allen scoring a TD on the next drive. Clear as day. 

Edited October 2, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[nedboy7]

2 minutes ago, MPT said:

 

The drops in the first half were really bad. We could have been tied at halftime easily if these guys didn't drop easy catches. The rain wasn't even a factor until the second half.

 

You are correct.  But....Wet balls were a problem from the start.  That's what......

 

Edited October 2, 2022 by nedboy7

[Rc2catch]

Just now, MPT said:

 

The drops in the first half were really bad. We could have been tied at halftime easily if these guys didn't drop easy catches. The rain wasn't even a factor until the second half.

It was getting a little crazy. That entire first half minus the final drive just felt like some form of voodoo on Buffalo. 
The drops and freakishly weird plays Baltimore was connecting on. 

[Roundybout]

Shakir has 100% earned more snaps. He shows more than Crowder. 
 

 

Im still sick of Moss. Putting him on the field is a huge sign to the defense that we are running up the gut. 

[Breakout Squad]

Just now, nedboy7 said:

 

His description of when a receiver becomes a runner was quite stunning.  Am I wrong on this? 

More the fact they brought it up at least 5 times. We get it Charles. You’re soooo smart. 

[Scott7975]

4 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

I think the roughing call was a bit soft at worst and borderline at best. It is a call refs make in the game so it isn't like it was a complete gift but the Bills got the benefit of a borderline call. The Bills got bad luck with calls last week and got a good call this week. It tends to even out

 

Milano got flagged for a late push last week.  Ravens got flagged for a tackle that he easily could have avoided because he had already stopped.  Its the same thing and I didnt have a problem with either flag.

[Breakout Squad]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Harbaugh went for it instead of taking the 3 out of fear of the certainty of Allen scoring a TD on the next drive. Clear as day. 

I would’ve taken the FG at home

[Big C]

4 minutes ago, Comebackkid said:

i definately wouldnt go with a long term big time money contract...but as long as he is productive and the price is right

Totally. I think it’s telling that they weren’t able to agree on any extension before the season started, though. Poyer has been underpaid based on his performance here and he probably wants a little thanks from the Bills. 

[Turbo44]

28 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

The bills need to find another outside wr until Davis is healthy 

OBJ time, though he's probably still 4-6 weeks from being able to play (pure guess)?

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Shakir was looking like 2010 Stevie Johnson on that catch and run

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

4 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

there’s a reason they play defense. Nit-pick all you want the balance of his play so far far outweighs that drop. Clown take.

 

I think you took that to mean something negative?

[Nitro]

Just imagine this team being healthy.   A juggernaut!  

[3rdand12]

I'll take the win !

 Always fun to watch Bills games these days
never know what might happen lol
Go Bills

[Nelius]

9 minutes ago, Iverwig said:

Shakir definitely should get some more playing time. He stepped up today when he was needed. 

Even if he doesn’t for some dumb reason, then Crowder shouldn’t if he’s healthy. Was a fan of the move this off-season but I’m over it. Shakir/McKenzie are the better compliments to Diggs until Gabe or Knox can hopefully get right and start to really contribute.

[UKBillFan]

We'll probably take Hodgins off the pratice squad if Crowder is injured, won't we?

[Scott7975]

5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Looks like Shakir is going to get a real shot then.  I hope he has good hands on punt returns.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

7 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Killed Edmunds the last few years, guy has been awesome all year. Get Shakir on the field as starting slot WR. Get Moss Dafuk off the team. Let’s keep this thing moving. Great win!

 

what a perfect game to eat crow

[Since1981]

McD “high level stuff from upstairs at the end”. Including Singletary not scoring theory. 

 

really? Clock mgt 101 

Edited October 2, 2022 by Since1981

[Real McClappy]

2 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

 

His description of when a receiver becomes a runner was quite stunning.  Am I wrong on this? 

That was a clear penalty. Listening to that clown on why that wasn't a penalty pissed me off but made me laugh at the same time. 

 

How could someone be that stupid and be able to talk to Millions of viewers?

[Big C]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Harbaugh went for it instead of taking the 3 out of fear of the certainty of Allen scoring a TD on the next drive. Clear as day. 

Yep. And again, if you’re the QB on that play, the only thing you absolutely can’t do is throw a pick. Starting at the 20 and not the 2 is a big deal. 

[3rdand12]

Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Shakir was looking like 2010 Stevie Johnson on that catch and run

he looked awesome for sure , and so glad he made a fine debut

[TheCockSportif]

Just now, Nitro said:

Just imagine this team being healthy.   A juggernaut!  

... who can't run.  Seriously, this team is good, but their flaws are on display.  Want to win a SB?  Gotta correct them.

[L Ron Burgundy]

1 minute ago, Roundybout said:

Shakir has 100% earned more snaps. He shows more than Crowder. 
 

 

Im still sick of Moss. Putting him on the field is a huge sign to the defense that we are running up the gut. 

Crowder had at least 2 drops.  Not good.  Gotta give Shakir more playing time for sure.

[Matt_In_NH]

33 minutes ago, familykwi said:

Because you think the Jets are a threat?

uh, no

No because I think familykwi has no sense of sarcasm

[Nitro]

Just now, TheCockSportif said:

... who can't run.  Seriously, this team is good, but their flaws are on display.  Want to win a SB?  Gotta correct them.

Do not have the road grader types to open holes.  It has to be quick hitting runs and many of the running plays are too slow in developing.

[Cheektowaga Chad]

1 minute ago, Turbo44 said:

OBJ time, though he's probably still 4-6 weeks from being able to play (pure guess)?

Yeah that's what I was thinking but I don't think he is ready

 

Need a bigger body or someone with some experience/ability to draw coverage in the mean time 

[Breakout Squad]

Just now, Nitro said:

Do not have the road grader types to open holes.  It has to be quick hitting runs and many of the running plays are too slow in developing.

I was hoping Saffold would solve that. 

[muppy]

1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Looks like Shakir is going to get a real shot then.  I hope he has good hands on punt returns.

I remember thinking that what I saw from him in preseason was he has hand of glue. I think he'll be fine. Where his game needs to grow is blocking. I think he's a diamond in the rough

[TheCockSportif]

1 minute ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Crowder had at least 2 drops.  Not good.  Gotta give Shakir more playing time for sure.

Yes, I don't think that Crowder is any good.  That and the lack of ability to execute running plays with regularity is a concern.  Is Moss running through deep water?  It looks that way.

[Buddo]

Just now, Big C said:

Yep. And again, if you’re the QB on that play, the only thing you absolutely can’t do is throw a pick. Starting at the 20 and not the 2 is a big deal. 

 

To be fair, the guy was open to start with, and Poyer made a great read and play on the football.

 

Lamar does have a live arm, but you would have to think that Allen gets it there ahead of the Safety, if the situation was reversed.

[BillsBy50]

Crowder had an awful miscue game 1 vs Rams that got picked. He’s been sloppy as hell most of this season. I love the possibility in Shakir his ceiling is way high!! 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 minutes ago, Nelius said:

Even if he doesn’t for some dumb reason, then Crowder shouldn’t if he’s healthy. Was a fan of the move this off-season but I’m over it. Shakir/McKenzie are the better compliments to Diggs until Gabe or Knox can hopefully get right and start to really contribute.

Shakir optimized his opportunity today.  We'll see more of him.  Cook, not so much.

[TheCockSportif]

1 minute ago, Nitro said:

Do not have the road grader types to open holes.  It has to be quick hitting runs and many of the running plays are too slow in developing.

Either that, or you need backs who can work around that, or a scheme to work around that.  Moss is slow.  Cook is a non factor.

[Comebackkid]

3 minutes ago, Big C said:

Totally. I think it’s telling that they weren’t able to agree on any extension before the season started, though. Poyer has been underpaid based on his performance here and he probably wants a little thanks from the Bills. 

true but the bills gave him the opportunity to be what he is and has been here.   yes he's made the plays and put in the work but had he gone some where else i dont think he is the same player.   guess we'll see how important the team first theme is to him.  

[muppy]

Just now, redtail hawk said:

Shakir optimized his opportunity today.  We'll see more of him.  Cook, not so much.

did Cook even get any snaps today? I recall Moss did and of course Motor

[Billz4ever]

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Harbaugh went for it instead of taking the 3 out of fear of the certainty of Allen scoring a TD on the next drive. Clear as day. 

Which is the wrong call IMO, especially in a wet game.  You get the opportunity late in the game to get a lead, you take it.

 

You have no idea what might happen when the other team gets the ball.  INT, fumble, you never know.  To come away with nothing there though gives the advantage to the opponent because now they only need a FG to beat you.