First impression: James Cook

[NoSaint]

16 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

 

it is like winning like this is such an unfamiliar feeling to us fans that people just go back to the usual bag of negative posts. But even the positive threads on here are so whacky; I think the winning has brought a lot of “different” posters out of the woodwork. 😃

I don’t think you are accurately remembering the bad times 

[NewEra]

Smug and full of himself…..

 

come on man.  You’re better than this.  This post sucks

[Dopey]

10 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Smug and full of himself…..

 

come on man.  You’re better than this.  This post sucks

😂😂😂

 

Edited September 10, 2022 by Dopey

[NoSaint]

30 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Smug and full of himself…..

 

come on man.  You’re better than this.  This post sucks

He’s not 

[HardyBoy]

1 hour ago, Victory Formation said:

I was trolled also when I said that Josh Allen was the best QB in the 2018 Draft.

 

Yup, my opinion is unpopular, you don’t like it and I don’t care.

 

Nevermind the fact that I said Cook has top 10 potential, he just needs more seasoning.

 

No you said you didn't like his personality, which you don't know at all. Maybe he has anxiety, my 5 year old son has high functioning autism and I could totally see having unexpected facial expressions in situations where there are a lot of people, shoot I make unexpected faces that don't convey what I actually am thinking and I'm about as genuine a person as you'll find. 

 

Like chill a second on your take, because it's based on what exactly. 

 

Fact, Singletary and Moss train with him and without question would have vouched for his character. You don't know better than them, you just don't. 

 

Also, have you been drinking op?

[billsfan1959]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 
Some posters can’t resist the lure of a diving board and an empty pool…

 

Well done 

[Solomon Grundy]

@NewEra, Victory is gonna have me queue up a Bijan Robinson thread. 😎

[artmalibu]

First impression, cut him.... 😂

My first impression of Cook was not the one fumble last night, I watched the preseason games.   He looks to have a skill set that could be useful, time will tell.  My bet is we wont see him much when the game is close.  

 

The problem I see is 4 RBs active and have the QB  get 2/3s of the rushes. 

Motor needs more touches.... 

 

 

[Royale with Cheese]

Umm wow

[HardyBoy]

32 minutes ago, artmalibu said:

First impression, cut him.... 😂

My first impression of Cook was not the one fumble last night, I watched the preseason games.   He looks to have a skill set that could be useful, time will tell.  My bet is we wont see him much when the game is close.  

 

The problem I see is 4 RBs active and have the QB  get 2/3s of the rushes. 

Motor needs more touches.... 

 

 

 

He does, maybe he was on a pitch count? 

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said:

@NewEra, Victory is gonna have me queue up a Bijan Robinson thread. 😎

He won’t be available @ 32 imo 

[buffaloted12]

how do you know his personality?

[artmalibu]

31 minutes ago, HardyBoy said:

 

He does, maybe he was on a pitch count? 

 

I dont think he is hurt.  He sure looked good imo

Edited September 10, 2022 by artmalibu
typo

[without a drought]

The OP wouldn't know an abrasive personality if he looked at in the mirror.

[Tanoros]

4 hours ago, Victory Formation said:

For a RB that is kind of smug and full of himself, boy did he disappoint. He will never make it in the NFL if he can’t: A) Hold onto the football and B) Run between the tackles.

 

I see a player who has top 10 potential, but his personality is a bit abrasive to me. For a guy who hasn’t proven a darn thing, I see no reason for him to have such a disproportionate level of confidence. Yup, you made it to the NFL, your brother is a good player, you were drafted in the 2nd round, but keep in mind that even a player drafted in the 7th round can eat your lunch if you’re not careful.

When I’ve listened to Cook, I didn’t get that impression at all. He came across as quiet, shy, and didn’t elaborate too much. I don’t think he has found his comfort zone talking in front of cameras yet, but that was my impression. 

[Mike in Horseheads]

OP must be a Alabama fan

[mrags]

4 hours ago, Behindenemylines said:

Kareem Hunt fumbled his first possession.   How’d the rest of the season turn out for him? Not too bad

 

So…. You are saying Cook is a woman beater now? Great. Now we must cut him just in case he ends up like Hunt. 

[Nelius]

Top 10 potential, as in uh, a top-10 running back in the entire league? This may be the first mistake

[John from Riverside]

Maybe if Cook talked about his feelings more and cried a little bit would be more to victory formations taste

[MJS]

He seems like a pretty quiet, reserved guy. He doesn't seem smug or abrasive to me at all. He does seem confident, but why would you want an NFL player on your team who is not confident? Confidence is important.

 

What is your opinion on Diggs? Diggs is VERY smug, often abrasive (to other teams and fans especially), and supremely confident. Yes, he is proven, but are you turned off about that in him? I guarantee you he has been like that ever since coming into the league. That's his personality.

[GunnerBill]

I am not sure it is antything to do with him being smug.... but in 2 snaps he fumbled and then ran what looked like a wrong route when lined up as a receiver. Add that to the concerns as a pass blocker. 

 

He has a long way to go. I liked him as a prospect but I haven't been super impressed in pre-season. Not sure he is going to be a massive weapon as a rookie. 

[TheWeatherMan]

7 hours ago, Victory Formation said:

For a RB that is kind of smug and full of himself, boy did he disappoint. He will never make it in the NFL if he can’t: A) Hold onto the football and B) Run between the tackles.

 

I see a player who has top 10 potential, but his personality is a bit abrasive to me. For a guy who hasn’t proven a darn thing, I see no reason for him to have such a disproportionate level of confidence. Yup, you made it to the NFL, your brother is a good player, you were drafted in the 2nd round, but keep in mind that even a player drafted in the 7th round can eat your lunch if you’re not careful.

For some reason I don’t think this will age well.  

[TBBills]

7 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

What have we seen to suggest he’s smug, full of himself, and abrasive?

I think the OP called his kid an A-hole before he was even born.

[All_Pro_Bills]

The fumble was a bad start and it's something to watch for, but I don't see any reason to declare a state of emergency over it right now.  Obviously, the coaches consider taking care of the football important.  Cook has a specific skill set the team targeted in the draft.  I'm pretty sure we're going to see it in action during the season.  As for his personality, all I've seen is a couple interviews where he's been asked the basic questions and given the usual answers back.  From those encounters nothing too insightful about his personally. 

 

Maybe the guy's just not a talker?  And for that matter, beyond a handful of star players and team leaders that get a lot of attention and do a lot of interviews and appearances, I know next to nothing about the person behind the player on the roster, say, 20 thru 53. 

[HOUSE]

Blackshear is not smug and has incredible balance, great hands and that blend of speed and Power. Sean McDermott needs to move him up fast before he becomes a stale fumbler... 

Edited September 10, 2022 by HOUSE

[JohnMurphyHamFetish]

He was definitely useful on the one play later in the game where he was used as a decoy on a play fake which allowed allen to go left and pick up the first down. But that fumble reminds me of Singletarys issues which would put him on the sidelines early in his career... expect the same treatment of cook until they feel confident he will improve.

[HardyBoy]

12 hours ago, artmalibu said:

 

I dont think he is hurt.  He sure looked good imo

 

Pitch count means he would only be able to play a certain number of snaps or get a certain number of touches. They do it with their d line and other positions a lot.

 

Probably why allen had to run, they couldn't trust Moss or Cook not to fumble and Singletary was at his pitch count. 

[wppete]

James Cook will be fine. The fumble was a learning lesson and didn’t cost us the game. Think next game will be a big one for him. 

[Solomon Grundy]

14 hours ago, NewEra said:

He won’t be available @ 32 imo 

But...you don't draft a RB in the 1st Rd😎

[billsfan1959]

11 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

I am not sure it is antything to do with him being smug.... but in 2 snaps he fumbled and then ran what looked like a wrong route when lined up as a receiver. Add that to the concerns as a pass blocker. 

 

He has a long way to go. I liked him as a prospect but I haven't been super impressed in pre-season. Not sure he is going to be a massive weapon as a rookie. 

 

Not disagreeing with your overall assessment about Cook; however, if you slow down the play during which Cook fumbled, you will see that Leonard Floyd made a pretty good defensive play in punching that ball out. Cook was completely in the air from the tackle by Nick Scott and Floyd punched the ball loose. It isn't as if Cook just put the ball on the ground. It was far less egregious than what McKenzie did on the interception.

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

Not disagreeing with your overall assessment about Cook; however, if you slow down the play during which Cook fumbled, you will see that Leonard Floyd made a pretty good defensive play in punching that ball out. Cook was completely in the air from the tackle by Nick Scott and Floyd punched the ball loose. It isn't as if Cook just put the ball on the ground. It was far less egregious than what McKenzie did on the interception.

 

I don't necessarily kill him for the fumble. It is the point about his usage I was more seeking to make.

[Solomon Grundy]

7 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

Not disagreeing with your overall assessment about Cook; however, if you slow down the play during which Cook fumbled, you will see that Leonard Floyd made a pretty good defensive play in punching that ball out. Cook was completely in the air from the tackle by Nick Scott and Floyd punched the ball loose. It isn't as if Cook just put the ball on the ground. It was far less egregious than what McKenzie did on the interception.

I believe Scott punched it out

[Success]

That wasn't a 1st impression.  He carried the ball once - I'm not going to hold a fumble in a situation like that against him.

 

I think this is what they might call a "hot take."

 

[NewEra]

28 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

But...you don't draft a RB in the 1st Rd😎

I wouldn’t draft most RBs in rd 1.  Sorry, Breece Hall isn’t one of those guys.  Nfl execs agreed.  
 

I wanted AP and Lynch in the 07 draft.  
 

i still need to watch more Bijan to see if he’s one of those guys, but he looks like a game changing back from what I’ve seen so far.  

[Solomon Grundy]

Just now, NewEra said:

I wouldn’t draft most RBs in rd 1.  Sorry, Breece Hall isn’t one of those guys.  Nfl execs agreed.  
 

I wanted AP and Lynch in the 07 draft.  
 

i still need to watch more Bijan to see if he’s one of those guys, but he looks like a game changing back from what I’ve seen so far.  

You know I'm just teasing😂. By the way, the Bills will be picking at 31. Miami forfeit their 1st rder

[ColoradoBills]

17 hours ago, Victory Formation said:

For a RB that is kind of smug and full of himself, boy did he disappoint. He will never make it in the NFL if he can’t: A) Hold onto the football and B) Run between the tackles.

 

I see a player who has top 10 potential, but his personality is a bit abrasive to me. For a guy who hasn’t proven a darn thing, I see no reason for him to have such a disproportionate level of confidence. Yup, you made it to the NFL, your brother is a good player, you were drafted in the 2nd round, but keep in mind that even a player drafted in the 7th round can eat your lunch if you’re not careful.

 

If you truly believe that, wouldn't the fumble humble him.  I would bet he was one of the quietest guys on the plane ride back.

Let's give him 100 touches before we even start to see his worth.

[NewEra]

Just now, Solomon Grundy said:

You know I'm just teasing😂. By the way, the Bills will be picking at 31. Miami forfeit their 1st rder

I know…you’re my boy grundles

 

oh s*** forgot about the fins.  Nice!

 

 

[BigAl2526]

It was one play.  I'm not forming "set in stone" opinions about a guy based on one play.

[HOUSE]

Ok, his one carry was not impressive, a learning experience,  don't fumble,  got it 

[artmalibu]

5 hours ago, HardyBoy said:

 

Pitch count means he would only be able to play a certain number of snaps or get a certain number of touches. They do it with their d line and other positions a lot.

 

Probably why allen had to run, they couldn't trust Moss or Cook not to fumble and Singletary was at his pitch count. 

 

Singletary only had 8 carries, 2 less than Josh.  He has not had any injuries that have been talked about.  So, I would say he was not on a pitch count.