BillsFan619 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) "Allen didn't have the most efficient passing numbers by most metrics last season, but the jaw-dropping eye test says he has become the position's most dominant all-around force with his big arm and powerful athleticism. He is still putting it all together at age 26 and there's every good reason for him to be the new NFL MVP favorite." 2021 key stats: 4,407 passing yards, 36 passing TDs, 15 INTs, 92.2 passer rating, 63.3 completion percentage, 60.7 ESPN QBR, 6.8 yards per attempt, 763 rushing yards, 6 rushing TDs https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-2022-qbs-best-worst/su5vrdsuvm0dnr2aaaxsudiz Edited August 9, 2022 by BillsFan619 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 One thing we can all be sure of. We like the Sporting News today. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: One thing we can all be sure of. We like the Sporting News today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, The Wiz said: Oh, it’s terrible. That was a horrible piece of writing. Formatting trash with little to no insight given. All around abysmal. But, they do say nice things about our Josh. So, I will like them for today. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: Oh, it’s terrible. That was a horrible piece of writing. Formatting trash with little to no insight given. All around abysmal. But, they do say nice things about our Josh. So, I will like them for today. I feel like you may have missed the joke on this one. Can't blame you since it was an awful movie. The drink he has is his favorite but he's acting like it's not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 19 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: One thing we can all be sure of. We like the Sporting News today. This is the way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Even Statler and Waldorf don’t dare rain on 17s parade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 7 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: "Allen didn't have the most efficient passing numbers by most metrics last season, but the jaw-dropping eye test says he has become the position's most dominant all-around force with his big arm and powerful athleticism. He is still putting it all together at age 26 and there's every good reason for him to be the new NFL MVP favorite." 2021 key stats: 4,407 passing yards, 36 passing TDs, 15 INTs, 92.2 passer rating, 63.3 completion percentage, 60.7 ESPN QBR, 6.8 yards per attempt, 763 rushing yards, 6 rushing TDs https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-2022-qbs-best-worst/su5vrdsuvm0dnr2aaaxsudiz So JA had a combined between passing and rushing 5170 all purpose yards, and 42 TD’s. Its annoying to me so many pundits only look at passing yards and passing TDs. They add and oh by the way on rushing. Can Tom Brady or even Aaron Rodgers or have they added an additional 600 yards rushing and an additional rushing TDs like 7 on an avg? I think not as there are only a couple of QBs in the league that possess those abilities like Jackson and maybe Murray. The difference is the two referenced QBs can’t hold a candle to JA17’s passing accuracy, strength, vision, and grit. To me not even Herbert can be in the same conversation on both fronts combined. The only ABsho possesses these qualities on both sides in Mahomes. That’s why I predict JA and PH are the two best QBs in the league and are in a class by themselves. I never in my wildest dreams thought we could secure a unicorn twice in 2017 and 18 as we could’ve had both if we didn’t take the trade in 17, and what did happen in 18. The difference in this gamble was we secured by taking the trade one of the best CBs in the league. Im glad Allen is getting these accolades are well deserved IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) That top 13 is very close to my order for the top 13 QBs in football as well. I think those 13 are the elite guys and the next tier 'franchise' guys. Edited August 9, 2022 by GunnerBill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: So JA had a combined between passing and rushing 5170 all purpose yards, and 42 TD’s. Its annoying to me so many pundits only look at passing yards and passing TDs. They add and oh by the way on rushing. Can Tom Brady or even Aaron Rodgers or have they added an additional 600 yards rushing and an additional rushing TDs like 7 on an avg? Mahomes too. If he chose to play that way. He could have a lot more rushing TDs if he wanted them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Trey Lance at #16, in front of Matt Ryan, having only thrown 101 passes in game situations since his last year of college in 2020? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, wjag said: Mahomes too. If he chose to play that way. He could have a lot more rushing TDs if he wanted them. No argument. The difference is Mahomes doesn’t have the size although close of Allen. I agree we have two new version QB’s that will emerge as the leaders of the NFL for the next decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, H2o said: Trey Lance at #16, in front of Matt Ryan, having only thrown 101 passes in game situations since his last year of college in 2020? Better hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 hours ago, wjag said: Mahomes too. If he chose to play that way. He could have a lot more rushing TDs if he wanted them. If Mahomes tried to play like Allen, he'd be leaving a game in a body bag. As it is, he has been hurt more than once without the heavy dose of called runs. He isn't as big a guy. KC will be smart and use his talents in the best way. He is a top two or three QB regardless of the stats. All we have to do is watch him play to know this. I believe that Allen, Mahomes, and Herbert will be the top three guys in the league for many years. Burrow will be a close number four. Games are much better to watch with great QB play. The AFC will have more than their share of these great games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) Kinda crazy how we've gone from all the national heads saying Allen is becoming a superstar but not in Mahomes league yet to Allen is better than Mahomes because he is harder to defend and can do more than Mahomes within a single offseason... BTW, I agree with the opinions now...Allen might be the most unstoppable QB in NFL history. He does virtually everything well with an elite arm and elite running skills. Edited August 9, 2022 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 hours ago, wjag said: Mahomes too. If he chose to play that way. He could have a lot more rushing TDs if he wanted them. Agreed. And Wilson too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 11 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said: One thing we can all be sure of. We like the Sporting News today. Why? They’re not telling us anything don’t already know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Eyes say more than stats thats for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Doc said: Why? They’re not telling us anything don’t already know. C'mon @Doc . That goes without saying. It's just the continuation of the "We hate PFF, we love PFF" (replace PFF with alternate crappy media outlet when appropriate) mantra that has been going about on here for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: C'mon @Doc . That goes without saying. It's just the continuation of the "We hate PFF, we love PFF" (replace PFF with alternate crappy media outlet when appropriate) mantra that has been going about on here for years Well PFF is different. They truly suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineforty Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/09/aaron-donald-calls-josh-allen-futuristic-big-ben/ didnt know where to put this but thought it was a pretty accurate description and one many of us have made/hoped for... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) That top 6 is exactly what I have. After that I don't care. I think Mahomes is going to miss Hill, Williams & Pringle more than Josh misses Beasley. Herbert will slide up into the 3 spot once Brady & Rodgers retire. Edited August 9, 2022 by LABILLBACKER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Got a pretty good laugh out of this list. They listed Mac Jones at 20/32, then proceeded to say “there is no question that the Patriots have found their long-term starter”. If the 20th best QB in the league is your long term starter, you’re going to be in for a world of hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 After so many years of mediocre-at-best quarterbacks, it feels really weird to see ours listed as #1 in the league and not be surprised at all. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) Here’s something fun from Keyshawn to bring us back down to earth! After saying a couple of weeks ago that Josh Allen is merely a product of his environment, wasn’t the reason they were where they were the last 2 years, and his front office/coaches have dragged him along, keyshawn claims Allen is now the Bills biggest Achilles heal. It’s really weird to me that there is anyone left still willing to die on the Josh Allen hill. Heck, even Nick Wright now says he’s the only qb with a real argument against mahomes as #1. the fact that Allen’s name is even in this segment with these other bums is pathetic. It’s mainly because the production voice behind the mic in the background has openly despised the hype for Allen all offseason. Allen’s name gets brought up at the 4 min mark 🤦🏻♂️ Edited August 10, 2022 by Stank_Nasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 LOL! Keyshawn is (still) a moron. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 36 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: Here’s something fun from Keyshawn to bring us back down to earth! After saying a couple of weeks ago that Josh Allen is merely a product of his environment, wasn’t the reason they were where they were the last 2 years, and his front office/coaches have dragged him along, keyshawn claims Allen is now the Bills biggest Achilles heal. It’s really weird to me that there is anyone left still willing to die on the Josh Allen hill. Heck, even Nick Wright now says he’s the only qb with a real argument against mahomes as #1. the fact that Allen’s name is even in this segment with these other bums is pathetic. It’s mainly because the production voice behind the mic in the background has openly despised the hype for Allen all offseason. Allen’s name gets brought up at the 4 min mark 🤦🏻♂️ Keyshawn is painfully stupid. He is proudly ignorant and defiant. It is not amusing or entertaining. There are plenty of bad, uninformed commentators, but he manages to stand out as exceptionally dumb. He clearly doesn't understand the concept of an "Achilles heel". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: Keyshawn is painfully stupid. He is proudly ignorant and defiant. It is not amusing or entertaining. There are plenty of bad, uninformed commentators, but he manages to stand out as exceptionally dumb. He clearly doesn't understand the concept of an "Achilles heel". He didn’t understand it one bit. His argument was “if josh Allen struggles, so will the team”…. So he basically just said every qb is their teams Achilles heel. He’s trying waaayyyy too hard with this Allen schtick. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 The funniest part is believing that losing Daboll and having a rookie OC in Dorsey will hurt Josh, but losing a proven OC like McDaniels and having a rookie OC in Patricia will be no big deal for the 2nd year Mac Jones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Daniel Jones is reportedly struggling greatly in camp and looks god awful. He and Daboll even had a heated exchange. On the flip side, Tyrod Taylor has looked “miles better” than Jones and according to those covering camp, wouldn’t be a surprise if he gets the nod at some point during the season. I saw a couple passes Jones threw on Twitter and they were really bad, directly to the defense. The “genius” of Daboll will be tested… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 4 hours ago, JayBaller10 said: Daniel Jones is reportedly struggling greatly in camp and looks god awful. He and Daboll even had a heated exchange. On the flip side, Tyrod Taylor has looked “miles better” than Jones and according to those covering camp, wouldn’t be a surprise if he gets the nod at some point during the season. I saw a couple passes Jones threw on Twitter and they were really bad, directly to the defense. The “genius” of Daboll will be tested… And hopefully it will shut up fools like Keyshawn Johnson who think that the Bills’ offensive success was mostly due to him. But probably not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 On 8/9/2022 at 4:30 AM, MiltonWaddams said: One thing we can all be sure of. We like the Sporting News today. Absolutely. For once it's less click bait and more master... well you get the idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Anyone have clips of what Keyshawn says about New England's offense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 8/10/2022 at 5:46 PM, TBBills said: Anyone have clips of what Keyshawn says about New England's offense? I don’t. But he just doubled down this morning and said Allen is the most overhyped qb in the league and just “the flavor of the month”. Mind you he started calling him the flavor of the month back in late 2020. I’m not quite sure he understands what it means. If that flavor happens to be consistently being in the MVP race going on year 3 now, I’ll take a bite of that one allllll day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: I don’t. But he just doubled down this morning and said Allen is the most overhyped qb in the league and just “the flavor of the month”. Mind you he started calling him the flavor of the month back in late 2020. I’m not quite sure he understands what it means. If that flavor happens to be consistently being in the MVP race going on year 3 now, I’ll take a bite of that one allllll day. To be fair in the lockdowns all the months blended into one..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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