aristocrat Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Gotta be Texans or Falcons for Jimmy I'd imagine right? Unless they are just going for the first pick? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Smart decision to get going on this at the start of training camp, got to want Trey to get as many reps with the 1s as he can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Gotta be Texans or Falcons for Jimmy I'd imagine right? Unless they are just going for the first pick? Don't sleep on Browns or even Miami (although unlikely) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) Has the era of real quarterback competitions ended? It used to be that the preseason games were used to determine the starting qb. Maybe Lance's athleticism forced the offensive coordinator to run an entirely different offense that requires more reps and that Jimmy doesn't have the skillset to run. Looks like Jimmy G will be moved soon. Edited July 26, 2022 by Allen2Diggs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Tampa. They probably don’t have Brady’s successor on the roster. I don’t think they are sold on Trask. Jimmy could start or bridge to their next guy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 He's my qb target for ff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Just now, Allen2Diggs said: Has the era of real quarterback competitions ended? It used to be that the preseason games were used to determine the starting qb. Maybe Lance's athleticism forced the offensive coordinator to run an entirely different offense that requires more reps and that Jimmy doesn't have the skillset to run. No, it’s not any of that, it’s that they spent 3 first round picks to trade up for Lance and they have to put him out there. 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Just now, Zerovoltz said: Tampa. They probably don’t have Brady’s successor on the roster. I don’t think they are sold on Trask. Jimmy could start or bridge to their next guy I mean - they were in the NFC championship game a year ago with him. You could certainly do worse as a bridge QB. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Zerovoltz said: Tampa. They probably don’t have Brady’s successor on the roster. I don’t think they are sold on Trask. Jimmy could start or bridge to their next guy They make sense but do they have the money to take on his contract this year? Then they’d have to sign him to an extension as his contract is up. Always injured, frail, no deep ball, limited mobility. He’s a bum now imo. He was lucky to be in shanahans system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Expected. You don’t tell the QB who just led you to the Conference championship game that he’s free to seek a trade unless he’s not in the plan going forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Zerovoltz said: No, it’s not any of that, it’s that they spent 3 first round picks to trade up for Lance and they have to put him out there. I think Shanahan can't get it done without a little bit more at QB. Twice they really needed him to come up clutch, and twice he came up very short. It's sort of Goff with LA, you've gone as far as you can with this guy. If the run game falters, they lose. If they need him to come up clutch in the 4th quarter of a playoff game, they lose. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: I mean - they were in the NFC championship game a year ago with him. You could certainly do worse as a bridge QB. Thanks to a system and a monster defense. Jimmy didn’t play well. He played well enough to get carried by a great game plan and an elite DL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Huge mistake!!! Miami or Seattle should pounce on the opportunity when they release Jimmy G. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: They make sense but do they have the money to take on his contract this year? Then they’d have to sign him to an extension as his contract is up. Always injured, frail, no deep ball, limited mobility. He’s a bum now imo. He was lucky to be in shanahans system. They don't need him this year. They would have to balance it with the 35M cap hit for brady in 2023. Just now, wppete said: Huge mistake!!! Miami or Seattle should pounce on the opportunity when they release Jimmy G. Seattle would make sense.. but it is an inter-divisional trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I can't believe Seattle and Atlanta are going into the season with the QBs they have. Nor can I believe anyone would pay their hard earned dollars to watch Mariota or Geno Smith 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, stuvian said: I can't believe Seattle and Atlanta are going into the season with the QBs they have. Nor can I believe anyone would pay their hard earned dollars to watch Mariota or Geno Smith I encourage you to go back and look at the list of illustrious names we plunked down hard-earned money to watch over the years. 4 1 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, wppete said: Huge mistake!!! Miami or Seattle should pounce on the opportunity when they release Jimmy G. I think it'll be Seattle. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I remember when people were claiming this guy was going to be the next Brady. Kinda like how some are doing now with Mac and Cheese. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, stuvian said: I can't believe Seattle and Atlanta are going into the season with the QBs they have. Nor can I believe anyone would pay their hard earned dollars to watch Mariota or Geno Smith SF isn't going to make a division rival better, for a late round pick. They'd save cash/cap but there isn't anything out there to spend it on - and he's a solid insurance policy. I was shocked Seattle wasn't in on baker, but i guess they don't see him as much of an upgrade over their current guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, NewEra said: They make sense but do they have the money to take on his contract this year? Then they’d have to sign him to an extension as his contract is up. Always injured, frail, no deep ball, limited mobility. He’s a bum now imo. He was lucky to be in shanahans system. It’s insane how much money you can make as the guy that nobody really wants!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I know that the Saints are planning to roll with Jameis Winston, but I were them, I'd sign Garappalo and have an open competition. Whereas Winston is a pretty volatile player, I feel that the Saints are an NFC Championship game contender with Garappalo at the helm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I think he's gonna ball out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 47 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Gotta be Texans or Falcons for Jimmy I'd imagine right? Unless they are just going for the first pick? Re Texans, I doubt it. they understand they are in a multi-year re-build and will stick with a cheap QB rookie contract with Davis Mills and see how he develops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 56 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said: Has the era of real quarterback competitions ended? It used to be that the preseason games were used to determine the starting qb. Maybe Lance's athleticism forced the offensive coordinator to run an entirely different offense that requires more reps and that Jimmy doesn't have the skillset to run. Looks like Jimmy G will be moved soon. I think the era of “we spent 3 first round picks to get this guy” has begun. What’s the best that can happen with Jimmy G? He wins the job and makes you look stupid m, while keeping your young guy on the bench another year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 38 minutes ago, Augie said: It’s insane how much money you can make as the guy that nobody really wants!!! It's insane that you can take your team to a SB and a Championship game in a 3 year span and get thrown away like a piece of garbage. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I honestly don't get the Lance hype other than the idea he could be the next JA17 (which seems to be a popular theme these days). Just not sure what in what world you move on so quickly from a QB that took you to a SB and NFCCG in 2 of the 3 years he was healthy there and if Lance struggles it's a precarious position if you start to lose the veterans in the lockerroom who were behind Jimmy G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 30 minutes ago, DCofNC said: I think the era of “we spent 3 first round picks to get this guy” has begun. What’s the best that can happen with Jimmy G? He wins the job and makes you look stupid m, while keeping your young guy on the bench another year? I guess the timing is what seems strange to me. Why wasn't Jimmy G moved earlier if that was the intention all along? Maybe they're waiting for a starting qb on another team to get injured in training camp to increase their leverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Allen2Diggs said: I guess the timing is what seems strange to me. Why wasn't Jimmy G moved earlier if that was the intention all along? Maybe they're waiting for a starting qb on another team to get injured in training camp to increase their leverage. I have a feeling they tried, but the contract is one you won’t get anything for without a contender having a guy go down. Probably felt like they weren’t getting anything anyway, might as well wait it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: I think it'll be Seattle. Maybe even Atlanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, DCofNC said: I have a feeling they tried, but the contract is one you won’t get anything for without a contender having a guy go down. Probably felt like they weren’t getting anything anyway, might as well wait it out. I feel like Jimmy G might have demanded a release. That would free up $25 Million in cap space with a penalty of only $1 Million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 36 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: It's insane that you can take your team to a SB and a Championship game in a 3 year span and get thrown away like a piece of garbage. I’ll be honest, I’m glad there’s currently no room for him in the AFCE. This could be good timing for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: I think Shanahan can't get it done without a little bit more at QB. Twice they really needed him to come up clutch, and twice he came up very short. It's sort of Goff with LA, you've gone as far as you can with this guy. If the run game falters, they lose. If they need him to come up clutch in the 4th quarter of a playoff game, they lose. Not sure Lance is that guy however. But, they need to find out. It took Josh a couple of years...yes, he was always on the upbubble, it just took those years to make him more complete. (of course, Josh worked his butt off also) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Not sure Lance is that guy however. But, they need to find out. It took Josh a couple of years...yes, he was always on the upbubble, it just took those years to make him more complete. (of course, Josh worked his butt off also) Lance had better be damn good after that crazy ass trade they made to get in position to get him. Was a bad move then and now they have no choice. The problem they had, Jimmy G is a “good” QB, not elite or even really good, he’s basically the poster child for what puts your team in the not so serious contender bracket. He’s good enough to win with a stacked roster, but he’s not the difference maker you want. Basically, you can’t make a mistake on the roster with him. He’s not going to overcome a poor D or if your playmaker goes down/demands 25M a year, he won’t cover up that hole. Now they have to play the game of QB roulette and hope Lance was a hit because they spent the picks they needed to cover up for an average QB and now they pissed off their other option.. it’s kinda what the Bills did, but they didn’t make a blind trade and hope their guy was there. Beane knew Tyrod wasn’t the answer, he rolled the dice and basically decided they’d figure it out. Ballllllllsy. Thankfully, it didn’t turn out Billllllsy. I would be very nervous to stake it all on Lance. He wasn’t asked to do much in the passing game in college, he got away on being more athletic than other guys. That’s not how the NFL works. With Allen, you saw the eye popping ability, you just had to harness it all, no easy task. With Lance, does he have the ability? I’m assuming yes or he wouldn’t have been picked so high, but can you make him an NFL passer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Yeah, had to start him whether he's ready or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 While I think Lance will be solid enough, what other choice did they really have but to 'name' him starter? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 2 hours ago, That's No Moon said: It's insane that you can take your team to a SB and a Championship game in a 3 year span and get thrown away like a piece of garbage. He's not the reason they went to the Super Bowl. The 49'ers running game could not be stopped. Garoppolo was their for the ride. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: He's not the reason they went to the Super Bowl. The 49'ers running game could not be stopped. Garoppolo was their for the ride. Then why were they 6-10 the year in between the Super Bowl and Conference Championship when he missed 10 games? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Allen2Diggs said: Has the era of real quarterback competitions ended? It used to be that the preseason games were used to determine the starting qb. Maybe Lance's athleticism forced the offensive coordinator to run an entirely different offense that requires more reps and that Jimmy doesn't have the skillset to run. Looks like Jimmy G will be moved soon. They invested a lot into Lance. The QB competition you describe is when you have mediocre QBs fighting for the starting spot on a mediocre team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bangarang said: They invested a lot into Lance. The QB competition you describe is when you have mediocre QBs fighting for the starting spot on a mediocre team. As they say, if you think you might have 2 QB’s, you probably don’t have any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Took em long enough the world’s worst secret 🤐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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