corta765 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 We are ooooh so close to football coming back and this is my look at the AFC East to start best case scenario and worst for each teams season. Don't like it? Feel free to comment telling me I am wrong and mean names. Like it? Comment also haha. Buffalo Bills Best Case: The dream season finally happens as the Bills run the table to their first SB ever. Finishing 14-3 with the #1 seed the Bills beat the Chiefs at home in the divisional round, then the Ravens in the AFC title before vanquishing arch nemesis Tom Brady in the SB as Allen takes home both SB MVP and League MVP. Buffalo does not stop celebrating until the end of time and there is a Josh Allen statue on every lawn. Worst Case: The Bills lose out on the division crown as the Dolphins improve with a dynamic offense and softer schedule to take the crown while the Bills offense is not as dynamic as expected as Cole Beasleys targets are not replaced and the defense is middling as Millers impact is not as expected and Tre White takes longer to come back. The Bills lose again in the division round on the road to the Chargers. Likely Outcome: Bills win division and 1 seed and take fans hearts into their hand for better or worse come playoff time Miami Dolphins Best Case: The Dolphins offense clicks as Tua is able to get the ball to his playmakers so they can do their thing mixed with McDaniels offense maximizing player output and they win their first division crown in forever. In the playoffs they actually win a game before losing on the road to Baltimore. Tua proves doubters wrong as he proves he can at least be a solid starter when given weapons and protection. Worst Case: Tua's limitations hold back the offense, McDaniels scheme doesn't gel well, and the defense can't bail out the offense as they fall to 7-10. With less draft ammunition then prior years, Miami is stuck in no mans land as they cannot move up in the draft to pick a QB of the future and are faced with Tua again or a free agent replacement. Likely Outcome: The Phins overcome a rough start to finish 10-7, but Tua's play is only mildly improved forcing the same questions again as prior seasons. New England Patriots Best Case: Mac Jones takes a step forward in his development and is able to lead the Patriots to another wildcard spot in a tough AFC. The Patriots defense plays a tough bend not break style mixed with an opportunistic offense that can run the ball well enough while Jones can make enough plays to score enough points to get by as his TE's play a larger role. Basically 2021 again but Jones carries more of the load despite less help. In the playoffs they lose a tight wildcard game on the road to at least go out with more grace. Worst Case: The Patriots roster is exposed with its lack of blue chip talent and Jones limitations are put on full display as he lacks competent coaching/play calling with McDaniels gone. The offense regresses as they cannot move the ball and the defense can only keep the Pats in games so much as NE fades badly in the back half on the way to a 5-12 season. Meanwhile BB announces his retirement leaving the Pats without any direction in the org while Josh McDaniels leads the Raiders to a 12-5 division title. Likely Outcome: Mix of both as Jones does improve a bit while not enough to stop the Pats slipping back given the improvements in the AFC and division itself. Additionally they don't get the turnovers or breaks they got last year in games. New York Jets Best Case: Zach Wilson does a Joe Burrow lite improvement as the Jets get to 9-8 thanks to a more competent offense as Wilson makes some plays to show he may have some real starting talent. The defense with the return of Carl Lawson and additions of Jermaine Johnson & Sauce Gardner turn the Jets defense into a force that can keep them in games. Worst Case: Wilson spins his tires as QB as he cannot take advantage of some of the improvements that are there and the offense continues to be a dud and the Jets again have a 4-13 season. The defense meanwhile is left to dry and the additions don't work out as they are passed all over. Saleh's tenure as coach is questioned and a rebuild of the rebuild looks again to be coming on the horizon. Likely Outcome: The Jets take meaningful steps forward as they go 6-11 but are in the vast majority of their games with the defense showing some real teeth. The offense is able to do a little bit although questions still are asked of Wilson who improves but is uneven doing so. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Tearing out my front yard flower beds now for the Josh statue 👍 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Tearing out my front yard flower beds now for the Josh statue 👍 I have removed my neighbors flowers beside my own so they are prepared. Their face though didn't seem as excited as I thought when they saw me doing it Edited July 20, 2022 by corta765 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Tearing out my front yard flower beds now for the Josh statue 👍 Nice! Nothing like religious statuary to grace a garden. Stick a bird on his shoulder & have a lamb by his side like this dude has: 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Nice! Nothing like religious statuary to grace a garden. Stick a bird on his shoulder & have a lamb by his side like this dude has: After the Bills win the Super Bowl, Josh will be more popular than Jesus. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Miami scares me a bit. I know we've dominated them but they got some serious weaponry with Hill, Waddle and Gesecki. If McDaniels gets that run game clicking, making it easier on Tua, they can be a scary offense 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 31 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Miami scares me a bit. I know we've dominated them but they got some serious weaponry with Hill, Waddle and Gesecki. If McDaniels gets that run game clicking, making it easier on Tua, they can be a scary offense Hill is going to be miserable going from Mahomes to Tua. Its like going from a Porsche to a tricycle. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, corta765 said: We are ooooh so close to football coming back and this is my look at the AFC East to start best case scenario and worst for each teams season. Don't like it? Feel free to comment telling me I am wrong and mean names. Like it? Comment also haha. Buffalo Bills Best Case: The dream season finally happens as the Bills run the table to their first SB ever. Finishing 14-3 with the #1 seed the Bills beat the Chiefs at home in the divisional round, then the Ravens in the AFC title before vanquishing arch nemesis Tom Brady in the SB as Allen takes home both SB MVP and League MVP. Buffalo does not stop celebrating until the end of time and there is a Josh Allen statue on every lawn. Worst Case: The Bills lose out on the division crown as the Dolphins improve with a dynamic offense and softer schedule to take the crown while the Bills offense is not as dynamic as expected as Cole Beasleys targets are not replaced and the defense is middling as Millers impact is not as expected and Tre White takes longer to come back. The Bills lose again in the division round on the road to the Chargers. Likely Outcome: Bills win division and 1 seed and take fans hearts into their hand for better or worse come playoff time Miami Dolphins Best Case: The Dolphins offense clicks as Tua is able to get the ball to his playmakers so they can do their thing mixed with McDaniels offense maximizing player output and they win their first division crown in forever. In the playoffs they actually win a game before losing on the road to Baltimore. Tua proves doubters wrong as he proves he can at least be a solid starter when given weapons and protection. Worst Case: Tua's limitations hold back the offense, McDaniels scheme doesn't gel well, and the defense can't bail out the offense as they fall to 7-10. With less draft ammunition then prior years, Miami is stuck in no mans land as they cannot move up in the draft to pick a QB of the future and are faced with Tua again or a free agent replacement. Likely Outcome: The Phins overcome a rough start to finish 10-7, but Tua's play is only mildly improved forcing the same questions again as prior seasons. New England Patriots Best Case: Mac Jones takes a step forward in his development and is able to lead the Patriots to another wildcard spot in a tough AFC. The Patriots defense plays a tough bend not break style mixed with an opportunistic offense that can run the ball well enough while Jones can make enough plays to score enough points to get by as his TE's play a larger role. Basically 2021 again but Jones carries more of the load despite less help. In the playoffs they lose a tight wildcard game on the road to at least go out with more grace. Worst Case: The Patriots roster is exposed with its lack of blue chip talent and Jones limitations are put on full display as he lacks competent coaching/play calling with McDaniels gone. The offense regresses as they cannot move the ball and the defense can only keep the Pats in games so much as NE fades badly in the back half on the way to a 5-12 season. Meanwhile BB announces his retirement leaving the Pats without any direction in the org while Josh McDaniels leads the Raiders to a 12-5 division title. Likely Outcome: Mix of both as Jones does improve a bit while not enough to stop the Pats slipping back given the improvements in the AFC and division itself. Additionally they don't get the turnovers or breaks they got last year in games. New York Jets Best Case: Zach Wilson does a Joe Burrow lite improvement as the Jets get to 9-8 thanks to a more competent offense as Wilson makes some plays to show he may have some real starting talent. The defense with the return of Carl Lawson and additions of Jermaine Johnson & Sauce Gardner turn the Jets defense into a force that can keep them in games. Worst Case: Wilson spins his tires as QB as he cannot take advantage of some of the improvements that are there and the offense continues to be a dud and the Jets again have a 4-13 season. The defense meanwhile is left to dry and the additions don't work out as they are passed all over. Saleh's tenure as coach is questioned and a rebuild of the rebuild looks again to be coming on the horizon. Likely Outcome: The Jets take meaningful steps forward as they go 6-11 but are in the vast majority of their games with the defense showing some real teeth. The offense is able to do a little bit although questions still are asked of Wilson who improves but is uneven doing so. Good post and agree for most part. Bills aside, I think with the Dolphins if they can ever figure out the JA17 puzzle and at least split with the Bills they'll certainly have a real chance at the division and much more. Patriots are really an enigma to me because their offseason wasn't nothing special on paper but if Mac Jones takes a big step they could be very good and truly resemble the Pats teams of years past and still think a lot of folks are discounting just how good Jones was last year as a rookie. Jets I think are really the wildcard because they definitely added some potential big time talent in the draft, but probably still way too young to make any real noise even if they overachieve. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Patriots are really an enigma to me because their offseason wasn't nothing special on paper but if Mac Jones takes a big step they could be very good and truly resemble the Pats teams of years past and still think a lot of folks are discounting just how good Jones was last year as a rookie. Jets I think are really the wildcard because they definitely added some potential big time talent in the draft, but probably still way too young to make any real noise even if they overachieve. Jones is weird because I thought the kid was pretty decent, but there is 100% evidence that the end of the year he got exposed a bit as he was asked to do more. I think if Henry and Smith can actually play to their talent he can maximize that as Meyers and Bourne aren't bad targets. The bigger issue though is they just don't have a lot of elite talent especially compared to the rest of the AFC and how it stockpiled in the offseason. If the Pats were NFC I actually think they would be a wildcard team, but their schedule AFC wise is brutal. Jets are a year away but I won't be surprised if they push Buffalo in one of the games finally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Gugny said: After the Bills win the Super Bowl, Josh will be more popular than Jesus. 😳 That’s John Lennon territory there, Gug. Now Mississippians are gonna burn their Bills gear! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Good post and agree for most part. Bills aside, I think with the Dolphins if they can ever figure out the JA17 puzzle and at least split with the Bills they'll certainly have a real chance at the division and much more. Patriots are really an enigma to me because their offseason wasn't nothing special on paper but if Mac Jones takes a big step they could be very good and truly resemble the Pats teams of years past and still think a lot of folks are discounting just how good Jones was last year as a rookie. Jets I think are really the wildcard because they definitely added some potential big time talent in the draft, but probably still way too young to make any real noise even if they overachieve. Fins spent some money and picks. Waddle had a nice year for fantasy, but i didn't see much from him last year to really instill fear as majority of his usage was in RPO settings. They added the best FA tackle, FA running back depth, kept both TEs. I still see an offense that is less than the sum of its parts though especially with a new system. As for the defense - there's no notable additions and they lose their coach in Flores. They should maintain the same blitz heavy look - but if you look at their win/loss from a year ago, that defense feasted on trash QBs (much like buffalos) I think the patriots will continue to play ball-control and keep jones in that 25ish pass attempts per game range. Their defense will be what it always is - matchup dependent and pretty good against both run and pass. I don't love their DBs and their pass rush still needs work even with Judon. The Jets were so far away a year ago. Alluring pieces at WR,RB,DB,DE are nice additions. Brought in Tomlinson as a FA, get Lawson back from injury etc. I still don't see enough in the defense to keep the other team from scoring. I also think the oline there is still going to be pretty bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) The Bills have such a big advantage at QB that I would be shocked if they don't win the division. Miami is probably the biggest threat but Tua will hold them back. If Wilson takes that next step ( See Josh Allen year 2) then they could be around .500 8-9 or 9-8 as a best case scenario. They are probably a year away from really challenging the Bills. The Pats just don't impress me with their roster. BB is finding out what life is like without #12. I wouldn't be surprised if the Pats finished last to be honest. Bottom line those three will be in a giant slap fight with one another while they all look up to the Bills. Edited July 20, 2022 by Greg S 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 One of my bad case scenario would be the D slipping a little. Poyer an Hyde lose that 1/2 step being 30+ years of age. Tre White doesn't come straight back from injury in full form. LB depth haunts us, if Milano misses a game and Boogie/Roussou/ don't take the next step. Not that I think this will happen, it's just my worst case scenario for the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 minute ago, ßookie_tech said: One of my bad case scenario would be the D slipping a little. Poyer an Hyde lose that 1/2 step being 30+ years of age. Tre White doesn't come straight back from injury in full form. LB depth haunts us, if Milano misses a game and Boogie/Roussou/ don't take the next step. Not that I think this will happen, it's just my worst case scenario for the defense. It's certainly possible both Poyer/Hyde show some decline. I just get the feeling that the Bills pass rush and run defense will be much better this year. Last year they were a paper tiger beating up on bad teams/QB's to get their " #1 ranking". I think they will be much better against good offenses this year. Beane addressed the LOS with more than just signing Von. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, Greg S said: The Bills have such a big advantage at QB that I would be shocked if they don't win the division. Miami is probably the biggest threat but Tua will hold them back. If Wilson takes that next step ( See Josh Allen year 2) then they could be around .500 8-9 or 9-8 as a best case scenario. They are probably a year away from really challenging the Bills. The Pats just don't impress me with their roster. BB is finding out what life is like without #12. I wouldn't be surprised if the Pats finished last to be honest. Bottom line those three will be in a giant slap fight with one another while they all look up to the Bills. The Bills advantage at QB is why I have their worst case as being a WC team. Realistically the division should be theirs even if they split Miami (who improves) just for the fact Josh is one of the top 2-3 players in the league. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 The worst case scenario for the Bills is Josh getting hurt. That's really it. If he stays healthy he's the best player in the division, at the most important position, and it's not even close. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Bills best case: Becoming the greatest team in league history because the league has never seen a QB play as well as Josh Allen did in 2022. Plus our defense is top notch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 29 minutes ago, eball said: The worst case scenario for the Bills is Josh getting hurt. That's really it. If he stays healthy he's the best player in the division, at the most important position, and it's not even close. Lol I was not bringing that juju around, you can delete your comment hahahah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 2 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Miami scares me a bit. I know we've dominated them but they got some serious weaponry with Hill, Waddle and Gesecki. If McDaniels gets that run game clicking, making it easier on Tua, they can be a scary offense Miami scares me zero both short and long term. Well, nothing is ever truly zero so not much. My short terms divisional concerns are NE, NYJ….and those two could change, with Miami being a close third. Long term it is NYJ, NE with Miami being a distant third. I see the Bills as being in a strong position to win the division this year. Anything can happen of course, but we have to be a pretty big favorite. Longer term the Jets seem to me to have finally turned the corner from an approach perspective. They would benefit from Wilson panning out and among the other three QBs I think he has the best chance. I think they will improve this year. If they maintain their rational approach, next year could be a big leap. I can’t totally dismiss NE due to BB and his willingness to both game plan in a way counter to current trends and to cheat, but I don’t understand what they’re doing roster wise. I can’t envision Jones at his peak ever being better than Allen, Burrow, Lamar, Watson??, Mahomes, Herbert, Carr or Wilson and other guys like Lawrence would have to bust to be in Jones territory. Miami to me seems to be throwing darts yet again. Superstar here, superhype there, And Tua? His ceiling seems slightly higher than Jones’ but his floor is much lower than Jones’. No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: Miami to me seems to be throwing darts yet again. Superstar here, superhype there, And Tua? His ceiling seems slightly higher than Jones’ but his floor is much lower than Jones’. No way. I think if Jones had MIami's weapons they would be real issue for the division. Jones is very accurate and makes fast decisions plus he is a bit bigger then Tua. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Tearing out my front yard flower beds now for the Josh statue 👍 How did you have room for Chandler statue and memorial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 5 hours ago, ßookie_tech said: One of my bad case scenario would be the D slipping a little. Poyer an Hyde lose that 1/2 step being 30+ years of age. Tre White doesn't come straight back from injury in full form. LB depth haunts us, if Milano misses a game and Boogie/Roussou/ don't take the next step. Not that I think this will happen, it's just my worst case scenario for the defense. It's not really a bad case scenario as much as reality with this defense probably not being nearly as good as they were last year for the simple fact the quality of QB's they are going to be playing this year vs last year when it was one rookie/backup/etc after another. In fact I could see this being the worst 'statistical' season for this defense even if healthy and with a better pash rush in additions to reasons you mention and giving up a lot of garbage time stuff like we saw in 2020. If the Bills do manage to field a top 5 - 10 defense again this year (statistically) it will be very impressive all things considered. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 14 hours ago, ScottLaw said: If they had any semblance of an offense last season they would’ve in the finale… the Bills punted I believe 8 times in the game. Agreed although to be honest Buffalo kinda seemed like just get to the end with the lead and advance without injury. Also the WR corp had some badddd drops that day from what I remember freezing in the stands haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 18 hours ago, Greg S said: It's certainly possible both Poyer/Hyde show some decline. I just get the feeling that the Bills pass rush and run defense will be much better this year. Last year they were a paper tiger beating up on bad teams/QB's to get their " #1 ranking". I think they will be much better against good offenses this year. Beane addressed the LOS with more than just signing Von. Yep - we just beat bad teams so badly that even DVOA weighting doesn't adjust it well enough. 7 - sub 250 yard games. 6 sub 15 first down games. 2 sub 10 first down games. I mean the jets had 53 total yards. And the defense had 4 brutal games - Tennessee, Tampa, Indy, and KC in the playoffs. 1 takeaway in all 4 - all games over 350 yards, all games over 100 on the ground. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 19 hours ago, ScottLaw said: If they had any semblance of an offense last season they would’ve in the finale… the Bills punted I believe 8 times in the game. One of my favorite @ScottLaw crusades has to be how far the 2019 Bills were behind the Jets who set up Darnold for success surrounding him with impact players like Lev Bell, and of course difference makers like Mosley! That was a fun offseason! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: My argument was the Jets and Bills were close in respective talent and that it would be close for 2nd in the division that year(behind the Patriots)… And they were close in talent…. I underestimated just how bad a coach Adam Gase is. LOL, I seem to remember it being a little more dramatic that "they're close"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) I'm going on the record: Pats finish last in the AFCE. In fact the 1st overall pick will be in play for them. Edited July 21, 2022 by PromoTheRobot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Anyone ever check the Pats boards? The perception of Jones is radically different from what it is here or anywhere else. I'd say most of their fans think he's going to be elite, and some even agree w/ Schrager that he could be a dark horse for MVP. Regardless, he's pretty decent, and I'm inclined to think both Tua and Wilson will be capable QB's. We aren't going to get the cakewalk of a division that the Pats got for 2 decades - which is kind of a bummer, but also a bit more fun. Barring anything unforeseen, I'd agree w/ most that the division should be ours fairly easily (I don't expect the team to buy into the hype like they did last year, which led to some lapses like the Jags game). Beyond that, I see a lot of close division games deciding the rest of the order. I'd probably pick Miami #2, Pats #3 and Jets #4, but big improvement from the Jets would hardly surprise me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 33 minutes ago, Success said: Anyone ever check the Pats boards? The perception of Jones is radically different from what it is here or anywhere else. I'd say most of their fans think he's going to be elite, and some even agree w/ Schrager that he could be a dark horse for MVP. I mean I doubt we would be any different if year one with a rookie QB he got them to the playoffs with a bunch of really good games including some 45 pt games. They had Brady as their dude for two decades and Jones play is similar decision making wise. But so was Andy Dalton's and he plateaued as being Dalton who was pretty good but not elite. Ask Pat fans to take a look at his play from the 3 pass Bills game on and it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. Many analysts I respect and read said that the last 5 games teams figured him out a bit and the Pats were not able to shield him which is why his play dropped. He also played three really good defenses vs BUF3x, IND, MIA which is a part of it too. Against the Jags they lit it up but again the Jags were not a great defense or team by any stretch. So I guess what I am saying is I wouldn't be surprised if Jones improved this year, but I think he doesn't have the weapons either to move the dial enough the way some think he can or will nor does he have the physical tools to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 28 minutes ago, corta765 said: I mean I doubt we would be any different if year one with a rookie QB he got them to the playoffs with a bunch of really good games including some 45 pt games. They had Brady as their dude for two decades and Jones play is similar decision making wise. But so was Andy Dalton's and he plateaued as being Dalton who was pretty good but not elite. Ask Pat fans to take a look at his play from the 3 pass Bills game on and it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. Many analysts I respect and read said that the last 5 games teams figured him out a bit and the Pats were not able to shield him which is why his play dropped. He also played three really good defenses vs BUF3x, IND, MIA which is a part of it too. Against the Jags they lit it up but again the Jags were not a great defense or team by any stretch. So I guess what I am saying is I wouldn't be surprised if Jones improved this year, but I think he doesn't have the weapons either to move the dial enough the way some think he can or will nor does he have the physical tools to. Good point about the perspective. I remember talking myself into Edwards, Orton, Taylor...even Tuel. I think Dalton is a pretty decent comparison. Jones is a smart QB, but doesn't have the same physicality as most of the elite guys, and can't really improvise once things break down. I see him as a dangerous opponent only as long as BB coaches there. Beyond that, I don't think they'll really contend w/ him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Under Best Case Scenario You have us running the table but still losing 3 games This does not compute, If we run the table I want them all! Geeez 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 The schedule is absolutely brutal but somehow I think the team is just too good to not go at least 11-6 with the 3 seed. Yet 13-4 seems too much with how tough the schedule is. So it all boils down to only two possible numbers being in play: 12-5 and the 1 seed, or 11-6 and the 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 It is funny how the OP has put the onus on all the teams for why they will be great or worse (full control of their destiny). However, for the Bills, he has made the worst case scenario be dependent on another team (Miami).... If the Bills do their thing (like the other teams, they should be winning the division irrespective of how Miami does) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 7/20/2022 at 11:59 AM, NewEra said: Bills best case: Becoming the greatest team in league history because the league has never seen a QB play as well as Josh Allen did in 2022. Plus our defense is top notch. This. Bills were on a 2007 level Patriots scoring differential pace before they hit that mid season stretch of poor play against the Jags, Colts and Patriots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 7/20/2022 at 9:54 AM, Gugny said: After the Bills win the Super Bowl, Josh will be more popular than Jesus. I mean he’s pretty close to that popularity right now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMio Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Success said: Anyone ever check the Pats boards? The perception of Jones is radically different from what it is here or anywhere else. I'd say most of their fans think he's going to be elite, and some even agree w/ Schrager that he could be a dark horse for MVP. Regardless, he's pretty decent, and I'm inclined to think both Tua and Wilson will be capable QB's. We aren't going to get the cakewalk of a division that the Pats got for 2 decades - which is kind of a bummer, but also a bit more fun. Barring anything unforeseen, I'd agree w/ most that the division should be ours fairly easily (I don't expect the team to buy into the hype like they did last year, which led to some lapses like the Jags game). Beyond that, I see a lot of close division games deciding the rest of the order. I'd probably pick Miami #2, Pats #3 and Jets #4, but big improvement from the Jets would hardly surprise me. Pats fans just aren't used to having a mid qb. They think because Mac Jones is kinda like Brady he's automatically gonna be Brady. They have no awareness of how hard it is to find an actual elite qb or to win a super bowl. Spoiled af. Personally I think Mac Jones' ceiling is Tannehill or Jimmy G. Can fool you into thinking your qb is good enough if the rest of the team is elite, but you're really just prolonging your agony about whether he's good enough to win your team a championship. Edited July 22, 2022 by MafiaMio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 I'm thinking the Bills best case for the AFC East is 8-0 The worst case is probably 2-6 or maybe 3-5. But I don't see that happening this year, without serious injury issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 7/20/2022 at 2:01 PM, Chandler#81 said: 😳 That’s John Lennon territory there, Gug. Now Mississippians are gonna burn their Bills gear! Aka Mississippers (can’t say what they sip) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Best case: Sweep the division and finish 15-2 Worst case: Lose 2 divisional games and finish 11-6 (still win the division) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 5 hours ago, The Dean said: I'm thinking the Bills best case for the AFC East is 8-0 The worst case is probably 2-6 or maybe 3-5. But I don't see that happening this year, without serious injury issues. 6-0. Jets, Dolphins, Pats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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