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Interesting.  Kaep's tryout sucks, so everyone gets to say "I told you so", and the NFL gets to say "We gave him a chance".  Just ignore the fact that we blackballed him the last 5 years, nothing to see there, while Nathan Peterman was a rostered QB for 4 of those years.  Weird.

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My guess is if the workout was good the Raiders would be promoting it and he would be signed by now.  Not even a camp tryout.  Instead, they're more comfortable with Nick Mullens and Garrett Gilbert as backups. 

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4 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Interesting.  Kaep's tryout sucks, so everyone gets to say "I told you so", and the NFL gets to say "We gave him a chance".  Just ignore the fact that we blackballed him the last 5 years, nothing to see there, while Nathan Peterman was a rostered QB for 4 of those years.  Weird.

 

The issue wasn't that he didn't have the quality to be on an NFL roster, it was that his quality of play did not warrant all the baggage that was going to come along with him being on the team.  

 

For a owners he could be a PR nightmare, for management and coaches he could become a distraction and for the potential level of headache that he could cause and the fact that he was a backup level QB, it just didn't make sense.  Simply put, there was not enough juice for the squeeze.

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5 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Interesting.  Kaep's tryout sucks, so everyone gets to say "I told you so", and the NFL gets to say "We gave him a chance".  Just ignore the fact that we blackballed him the last 5 years, nothing to see there, while Nathan Peterman was a rostered QB for 4 of those years.  Weird.

He wasnt blackballe. He wanted $20M/year and to be an unquestioned started. Ridiculous demands

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Kap is not serious about playing football. If so, he would have joined the CFL, got into football shape, and show NFL teams he can consistently show up year after year, perform and be a good teammate. 

 

He's had plenty of opportunities to play football. I'm surprised he can still generate news and our reactions. 

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12 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

Well I guess you interviewed all of them in a séance which makes you an expert. "Keep up your delusion."

 

IMO many people have different opinions who are alive and those who are dead have different opinions as well. 

The point is, as an American citizen he was exercising his completely legal constitutional rights, which other Americans evidently are more than happy to in effect take those constitutional rights from him, and in the future, from you and me too, whenever they don’t like what we have to say.
 

   Its about the rule of law, ask yourself, what does that say about those that would take those rights from him, or you, me or anyone else? Sounds exactly like what a Putin type does to those that disagrees with him in Russia, he silences them, and worse, and thats just damn UN-American, period! 

 

Semper Fi 

 

Go Bills!!!

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

The point is, as an American citizen he was exercising his completely legal constitutional rights, and other Americans to include you it would appear, are more than happy to take those constitutional rights from him, and in the future, you and me too, whenever they don’t like what we have to say.
 

   Its about the rule of law, ask yourself, what does that say about those that would take those rights from him, or you, me or anyone else? Sounds exactly like what a Putin type does to those that disagrees with him in Russia, he silences them, and worse, and that’s damn UN-American, period! 

 

Semper Fi 

 

Go Bills!!!

 

 

I don't think people want to take Kaps constitutional rights of free speech away from him.  What we reject is the idea that practicing those rights is without consequences.

 

 

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12 hours ago, Mickey said:

Not even close. There are many far more inclusive societies and quite a number of them didn't have to endure a bloody civil war that took the lives of thousands upon thousands just to get rid of slavery.  On the Liberty Index, the US currently ranks 26th in the world behind Japan and just ahead of Uruguay.  

 

Tell me you've never looked at Japan's "inclusiveness" without telling me you've never looked at Japan's inclusiveness.

 

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3 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

Tell me you've never looked at Japan's "inclusiveness" without telling me you've never looked at Japan's inclusiveness.

 

Japan is a dying society.  Their women want nothing to do with their men and as a result their birth rates are dismal.

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At his best he was a bigger, stronger armed Tyrod Taylor.  He wasn't accurate enough to keep the chains moving consistently, and he was pretty much only suited to the Roman style offense.  He isn't a QB who can adapt to another system, he basically requires the system to adapt to him. 

 

Not to say that Tomsula and Kelly were good NFL coaches, but they were both choosing to trot out gabbert at times based on his ability to grasp their systems.  Just doesn't seem like the type of guy who grasps nfl systems effectively, nor has the ability to read and manipulate defenses.  

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4 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I don't think people want to take Kaps constitutional rights of free speech away from him.  What we reject is the idea that practicing those rights is without consequences.

 

 

 

Kap was not inciting violence, he was not harming others, why should he suffer negative consequences? Really why? he merely pointed out inequalities in our society, where is the harm in doing that?  
 

Go Bills!!!

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12 hours ago, Mickey said:

 On the Liberty Index, the US currently ranks 26th in the world behind Japan and just ahead of Uruguay.  

 

lol...Japan.  Couldn't pick a worse example for your retort to that guy's post.

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The only thing that getting another work out with a team does is keep his name in the news but i think we all pretty much know that if the USFL, XFL, or the CFL do not have him on a roster the NFL isn't going to touch him with a 10 foot poll !! 

 

Then like was said in the Sapp interview if you sue a company in what way do you think they will ever give you another chance at a job makes no sense what so ever !! 

 

Fade into the sunset Kap !!

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4 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

 

Kap was not inciting violence, he was not harming others, why should he suffer negative consequences? Really why? he merely pointed out inequalities in our society, where is the harm in doing that?  
 

Go Bills!!!

Remember when he wore these socks at practice?  I don't have any problem with the kneeling or his activism, but portraying police as pigs is not "merely pointing out inequalities".  It is perpetuating the divide, instead of trying to fix the very real problems.  I know this is a very small part of what he has done, but it is often overlooked. 

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He's a good man, but not a good enough QB that I ever wanted him on the team.

 

Best of luck to him in all endeavors.

 

 

47 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Japan is a dying society.  Their women want nothing to do with their men and as a result their birth rates are dismal.

 

 

I live in Japan. Have for 30 years.

 

Hopefully you were being sarcastic there, because you're right about falling birth rates (and that's equally true in pretty much every developed economy in the world) but the rest of it is nonsense.

 

Of the "utter" variety.

 

 

 

 

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38 minutes ago, nucci said:

How can you not believe Warren Sapp? Did he say whom he heard that from?

 

Sapp is a scumbag that's faced numerous legal charges (ultimately dismissed), but that cost him his NFL Network job. That was after he filed for bankruptcy a few years after his NFL career ended. 

 

Color me skeptical that Sapp has an "unnamed source" feeding him info about Kaepnicks workout. 

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8 hours ago, Da webster guy said:

 

There are many who strongly disagree with you, they feel that everyone should stand as a sign of respect to the flag.   Kap used to sit on the bench for the anthem, then he switched to the kneeling which I think was a better move.

 

I have interest in his tryout for the NFL because I felt the narrative that Kap was some elite player that got his career ended short because he chose to protest is simply not true.  The majority of non-football fans believe the guy sacrificed his career for some greater good, when the reality is the guy was a backup QB on his way out of football.   

 

Then he took a huge check from Nike and they ran ads that said Believe in Something, Even if it Means Sacrificing Everything, and the lie got pushed even further.  At that point, I felt there was no chance this guy would ever try to make another NFL roster because it will reveal that he's simply not very good, and he didn't really sacrifice ANYTHING.  In fact, he likely made more money from the kneeling that he would have if he tried to stay in the league and hold a clipboard for a few more years.

 

Nike should run a new Kaep ad that says Believe in Something, Especially if it Makes you Rich.....

 

I really respect the guy for actually trying to play again, even though we all know what the result was going to be.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Let’s not forget that he also sued the NFL and got paid  and compared the NFL /combine to slavery , I’m sorry I respect the cause that he’s promoting I just don’t think he should be the face of it  JMO !!! 

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1 hour ago, Don Otreply said:

The point is, as an American citizen he was exercising his completely legal constitutional rights, which other Americans evidently are more than happy to in effect take those constitutional rights from him, and in the future, from you and me too, whenever they don’t like what we have to say.
 

   Its about the rule of law, ask yourself, what does that say about those that would take those rights from him, or you, me or anyone else? Sounds exactly like what a Putin type does to those that disagrees with him in Russia, he silences them, and worse, and thats just damn UN-American, period! 

 

Semper Fi 

 

Go Bills!!!

 

 

Hey hey everything in this post is American propaganda 

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1 hour ago, Don Otreply said:

 

Kap was not inciting violence, he was not harming others, why should he suffer negative consequences? Really why? he merely pointed out inequalities in our society, where is the harm in doing that?  
 

Go Bills!!!

Agreed. 

 

Kap was exercising his right to free speech and was trying to form a "more perfect union"

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15 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

A person of color calling attention to this country's totaled messed up race-relations situation by virtue of exercising his right to self expression...and this forum pisses all over the guy.

 

Every single man or woman who has ever died in any war for this country did so so that Keep could go down on a knee before a football game.

 

When you piss on Keep, you piss on every one of those dead heroes.

 

 

Thanks NMU.  Some, perhaps most here will never get it. 

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