BuffaloBill Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Link to sportrac Current Bills salary cap situation - 3/22/2022 12:55 PM $4.1MM - available for “Top 51” - Estimate is that Bills are under by $1.6MM for all - Still missing #’s for Barkley, Crowder, Lawson, Lee, Phillips - Link to Sportrac in 1st post Looks like the Bills will sneak into camp under or at the “top 51” and then let camp competition and possible other restructurings take place to get down to the final #. For example, if Bates is resigned, they likely keep either Ford or Manchester but not both (will also probably draft a G and may carry him on p-squad). Beane is playing for real with what he is doing. Current Bills salary cap situation 3/20/2022 7:20 PM $4.6MM - Keenum contract rework - still missing #’s for Lawson, Lee, Phillips Current Bills salary cap situation - 3/20/2022 5:45 AM $2.1MM - Keenum bonus out - Still missing #’s for Lawson, Lee, Phillips - Link to Sportrac in 1st post My guess is that the Bills have to make about $8MM - $10MM in more room to sign final three FA’s currently on the roster, sign a “value” CB, sign draft choices and to make room for the inevitable in-season signing need(s) Bills cap as of 3/19/2022 5:30 PM - $2.5MM - Keenum In - Jones, Lawson, Lee, Phillips not in yet The Bills have some work to do as the other variable is leaving enough cap for draft choices and in-season signings Bills cap as of 3/19/2022 12:15 PM - $8.9MM - Miller in - Jones, Lawson, Lee, Phillips not in yet Bills cap as of 3/19/2022 - 7:00 AM $13.4MM Now includes Saffold’s #’s - still missing Jones, Lawson and Miller Bills Cap as of 3/18/2022 - 2:00 PM $16.9MM following release of Star and inclusion of Howard & Settle Still missing: Jones, Lawson, Miller and Saffold Bills Cap As of 3/17/2022 - 3:16 PM $17.5MM following release of Beasley Bills Cap As of 3/17/2022 - 10:45 AM (Allegedly $11.4MM available) Thought it might be helpful to have one thread where the Bills current cap status is tracked. According to Sportrac, the Bills have about $11.4 MM in space right now. However, their number does not include new contracts for Howard, Jones, Miller and Saffold. The Bills obviously have more work to do to be under the cap and leave themselves room for draft signings and in-season signings. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 When Beasley is either cut or traded….how much will this give us in cap space? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I'd rather have 15 threads on the same subject. Keeps my mind sharp 1 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Going to be hard to know true space until Howard, Jones, Miller and Saffold contracts are accounted for (which they are not yet). Even with Milano recent restructure probably need one more 5M savings restructure or Cut to even fit those 4 outstanding contracts still. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: When Beasley is either cut or traded….how much will this give us in cap space? $7.6 MM which is probably the number the Bills will want to have going into the draft and season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) The other guy I'm surprised is still around is Tyler M, that's a $2.5 mil savings if cut. 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: $7.6 MM which is probably the number the Bills will want to have going into the draft and season. That's a higher number than most years, thought it was usually just under $5 mil. Drafting late saves some money there too as usually only first three picks will count towards top 51 contracts. Edited March 17, 2022 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: When Beasley is either cut or traded….how much will this give us in cap space? About 6 million more 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: When Beasley is either cut or traded….how much will this give us in cap space? 6.5 mil more space with 1.5 dead cap only this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: $7.6 MM which is probably the number the Bills will want to have going into the draft and season. Total cap hit is 7.6, with a dead cap hit of 1.5 so when leaves, Bills get about 6.1 in cap space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafi$ Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, Draconator said: I'd rather have 15 threads on the same subject. Keeps my mind sharp Agreed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extrahammer Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Bills Cap As of 3/17/2022 - 10:45 AM (Allegedly $11.4MM available) Thought it might be helpful to have one thread where the Bills current cap status is tracked. According to Sportrac, the Bills have about $11.4 MM in space right now. However, their number does not include new contracts for Howard, Jones, Miller and Saffold. The Bills obviously have more work to do to be under the cap and leave themselves room for draft signings and in-season signings. I assume they've made some other cap moves that just haven't been publicized in order to make moves for the signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I think Beasley and Star get us through the draft, season, and another depth signing or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Mango said: I think Beasley and Star get us through the draft, season, and another depth signing or two. Diggs extension could do that as well. Tre White restructure also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafi$ Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Can’t see this team not adding to the CB position in FA with a solid player with Tre coming off an injury and losing Wallace 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 41 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Bills Cap As of 3/17/2022 - 10:45 AM (Allegedly $11.4MM available) Thought it might be helpful to have one thread where the Bills current cap status is tracked. According to Sportrac, the Bills have about $11.4 MM in space right now. However, their number does not include new contracts for Howard, Jones, Miller and Saffold. The Bills obviously have more work to do to be under the cap and leave themselves room for draft signings and in-season signings. We’re going to need another 15M for Robinson and Gilmore. Diggs extension should get that taken care of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Diggs extension could do that as well. Tre White restructure also. I think I would avoid that. Just based on some of the cap-wonks we have here, there have been estimates we might have pushed our 2023 cap number down to $15M. We have have Edmunds, Knox, Poyer, Singletary, Olivers 5th year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mango said: I think Beasley and Star get us through the draft, season, and another depth signing or two. Beasley is gone. They owe him a roster bonus sunday they aren’t going to pay it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 The Bills have a lot of work to do to fit the new deals under the cap — particularly if they want to keep adding. One or two cuts won’t do it. We’re going to see MULTIPLE re-structurings, conversions to signing bonuses, and extensions in the coming days. There is no money left in the banana stand. Beane will have to get creative, and fast, to fit Miller and co and remain cap compliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: Can’t see this team not adding to the CB position in FA with a solid player with Tre coming off an injury and losing Wallace I think so as well, but they will let the dust settle a little bit and sign whoever lost the musical chairs. Hoping for a high draft pick as well. We also need a backup QB. Edited March 17, 2022 by MJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 The Bills have plenty of space to make one or two more moves. I would strongly like them to look into the vet CB, Guard or WR markets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, Logic said: The Bills have a lot of work to do to fit the new deals under the cap — particularly if they want to keep adding. One or two cuts won’t do it. We’re going to see MULTIPLE re-structurings, conversions to signing bonuses, and extensions in the coming days. There is no money left in the banana stand. Beane will have to get creative, and fast, to fit Miller and co and remain cap compliant. Yep, and we also don't have any backup QBs. One will be a vet that won't be very cheap. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MAJBobby Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 With Beasley Release and Recent moves. Bills cap Space $18,922,395 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/ Still to account for in that 18.9M Howard Jones Saffold Miller 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Bills need to add a Vet starting caliber CB. It has to happen. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slo_Bills Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 56 minutes ago, Mango said: I think Beasley and Star get us through the draft, season, and another depth signing or two. Yeah well Beasley is a goner now so that leaves Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: With Beasley Release and Recent moves. Bills cap Space $18,922,395 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/ Still to account for in that 18.9M Howard Jones Saffold Miller I’m assuming that puts them around $0 give or take a couple million either way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, GolfandBills said: I’m assuming that puts them around $0 give or take a couple million either way. I am sure we will know at 4pm. When the outstanding contracts are likely processed. I would think Beane would free up maybe 2-4M on the positive right now, to be able to process the current agreements with the league and continue work. Just my Guess. Obviously he knows what he has and how much more he has to free up if any to process current contracts. But they can likely fit them all at this point I would think 3 minutes ago, Slo_Bills said: Yeah well Beasley is a goner now so that leaves Star And then about another 5-7 moves that could be done to free more up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 would be nice to see Lotulelei take a pay cut. Matakevich also jumps at me as pricey for what you get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, offyourocker said: would be nice to see Lotulelei take a pay cut. Matakevich also jumps at me as pricey for what you get How many DTs do you want? And why would you trust a player that doesnt show up or even really want to play anymore to give him another contract redo. Move on from this malcontent already 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I remember way back to yesterday afternoon when I really thought I had a grasp on how the NFL cap worked. I guess this why you here "insiders" say you just make the numbers work if you can get a big fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: I’m assuming that puts them around $0 give or take a couple million either way. I would think so. Once the dust settles on the current signing the Bills will be inside the cap by a few bucks. Any moves from now on will need a corresponding cut/restructure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 54 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: I’m assuming that puts them around $0 give or take a couple million either way. With all the prior restructures this cant be right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, North Buffalo said: With all the prior restructures this cant be right As of this moment the Bills have (per Spotrac) $18.9M in cap space. What is missing is this years cap hits for the following players. Von Miller DaQuan Jones Rodger Saffold OJ Howard Everyone is free to determine what they guess the remaining cap will be after the contracts drop. I say it will be pretty close to even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, ColoradoBills said: As of this moment the Bills have (per Spotrac) $18.9M in cap space. What is missing is this years cap hits for the following players. Von Miller DaQuan Jones Rodger Saffold OJ Howard Everyone is free to determine what they guess the remaining cap will be after the contracts drop. I say it will be pretty close to even. Does sportrac account for all the restructures.. in another words when was the last update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, North Buffalo said: Does sportrac account for all the restructures.. in another words when was the last update? It's all right here. You tell me if everything is up to date. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/transactions/buffalo-bills/ It looks right to me from everything that has been reported. Let me add this cap space at this moment. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 yeh Beasely is gone hmmm guess they are done in FA unless im missing something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: As of this moment the Bills have (per Spotrac) $18.9M in cap space. What is missing is this years cap hits for the following players. Von Miller DaQuan Jones Rodger Saffold OJ Howard Everyone is free to determine what they guess the remaining cap will be after the contracts drop. I say it will be pretty close to even. Add Jordan Phillips to the list according to One Bills Live 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, North Buffalo said: Does sportrac account for all the restructures.. in another words when was the last update? One thing I didn't mention above is the Top 51 Cap. As of now each of the higher paid signings has a reaction. As each gets signed it knocks off a lesser paid player on the Top 51. That means that players making $700k get pushed off. So the new higher paid players first year cap hit is essentially $700k less. Just wanted to be totally accurate with my comments. 4 minutes ago, loyal2dagame said: Add Jordan Phillips to the list according to One Bills Live Loyal, thanks for the info. If true Star has to retire or be cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Amazing how 2 weeks ago they were negative for cap space and now I see $18,922,395??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Amazing how 2 weeks ago they were negative for cap space and now I see $18,922,395??? Soon to be negative again 😂. I believe that figure doesn’t count Miller or Howard. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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