2022 Free Agency - Around the NFL Thread

[Draconator]

Just now, Warcodered said:

Did you delete that thread or did it get yeeted into the sun?

Deleted. Fake account after closer inspection. 

 

I get excited easy

[cle23]

Now it's reported 4 years, $84 million for Kirk. That's insane. 

[stosh64]

This is a bit more than even that other twitter account above said...

That F#n insane $$$

21 MILLION a year for KIRK????

Edited March 14, 2022 by stosh64

[MAJBobby]

Now there is debate on who killed the Trade.  Albight says different package and it is Watson that said No, not the Texans

Edited March 14, 2022 by MAJBobby

[Logic]

“Up to” $84M.

 

The first number you hear is always released by the player/agent, and it’s always overly generous.

 

His real numbers will not touch $21M per year. The devil is in the details. Wash, rinse, repeat.

[Success]

41 minutes ago, Pete said:

Meanwhile we twiddle our thumbs 

 

The "big splash/big spending" team last year couldn't get the Bills to punt once in 2 straight match-ups.

 

[Roundybout]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

 

What a great vote of confidence in your young QB. 

[Process]

Just now, Logic said:

“Up to” $84M.

 

The first number you hear is always released by the player/agent, and it’s always overly generous.

 

His real numbers will not touch $21M per year. The devil is in the details. Wash, rinse, repeat.

The real number is $18M....which is still absolutely absurd and one of the worst contracts I've ever seen.

[Patrick Duffy]

9 minutes ago, Draconator said:

 

Lol, well so much for the Kirk thread... Looks like he wasn't quite ready to  go to a contender yet and went with the big bucks. I can't fault him for it by any means, people are in different points in life and do what is best for them.

 

Would have been nice though

[Draconator]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

 

The Texans said No, or Watson said No?

[H2o]

Just now, Process said:

The real number is $18M....which is still absolutely absurd and one of the worst contracts I've ever seen.

Remember when we had to overpay to get people like the Derrick Dockery's of the world? 

[junior]

1 minute ago, H2o said:

Remember when we had to overpay to get people like the Derrick Dockery's of the world? 

 

7x7 for $49M! Think it was the biggest contract in Bills history at that point?

[BaaadThingsMan]

30 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

It is both...  There may be some changes before the 16th

Wow. That guy has really persevered. Good for him 👏👏👏

[H2o]

4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Is anyone actually buying this twit from Twitter? You won't get a better haul than what the Jets offered no matter what they think of Wilson. 

[MAJBobby]

6 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

What a great vote of confidence in your young QB. 

Evidently Albright is saying the Texans didnt say No.  Watson said No as part of his no trade clause.

3 minutes ago, H2o said:

Is anyone actually buying this twit from Twitter? You won't get a better haul than what the Jets offered no matter what they think of Wilson. 

Albright also said it wasnt the Texans that said No it was Watson (no trade clause)

5 minutes ago, Draconator said:

 

The Texans said No, or Watson said No?

There is debate here.  Albright is saying Watson is the one that killed it

 

 

Edited March 14, 2022 by MAJBobby

[wjag]

18 minutes ago, Draconator said:

 

 

That's a lot of Doge Coin for a WR3..

[Warcodered]

4 minutes ago, Draconator said:

 

The Texans said No, or Watson said No?

Pretty sure it was the Grand Jury.

[aristocrat]

8 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

What a great vote of confidence in your young QB. 

 

That's a hell of a haul from them how do they turn that down?  

[Roundybout]

Just now, aristocrat said:

 

That's a hell of a haul from them how do they turn that down?  

 

Like Bobby said, I bet this was Watson saying 'absolutely not' to the Jets. No clue on the Browns, though, you'd think he would want to go to that team. 

[gonzo1105]

This might be the year that the Bills grab some of those vaunted comp picks. Trubisky with a big deal probably out of the gate and our first signing is a guy who was cut and doesn't count. 

[FarrellsFinest]

Just goes to show the Watson situation is all personal for the owner. If you cant see whats going on idk what to tell you.

[MAJBobby]

Not sure if this is well known.  Reportedly Bills were reached out to by JC Jackson at the Combine

 

"Another possibility could be standout corner J.C. Jackson from New England. Jackson is arguably the top free agent available, regardless of position and one can’t discount the desire to show Belichick and the Patriots they made a mistake by not bringing him back. The Bills have a need at boundary corner opposite of Tre’davious White. Could a 1-year deal (a la what Derrel Revis did with New England) be in the cards?"

 

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2022/3/14/22977903/two-premier-defensive-free-agents-reached-out-to-bills-at-combine

[davefan66]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

Not sure if this is well known.  Reportedly Bills were reached out to by JC Jackson at the Combine

 

"Another possibility could be standout corner J.C. Jackson from New England. Jackson is arguably the top free agent available, regardless of position and one can’t discount the desire to show Belichick and the Patriots they made a mistake by not bringing him back. The Bills have a need at boundary corner opposite of Tre’davious White. Could a 1-year deal (a la what Derrel Revis did with New England) be in the cards?"

 

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2022/3/14/22977903/two-premier-defensive-free-agents-reached-out-to-bills-at-combine

Speculation is he was one of the guys to reportedly reach out to the Bills.  Other guy was Chandler Jones.

 

Wonder if the delay in signing of these guys is the Bills working on clearing cap space?

[Roundybout]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Not sure if this is well known.  Reportedly Bills were reached out to by JC Jackson at the Combine

 

"Another possibility could be standout corner J.C. Jackson from New England. Jackson is arguably the top free agent available, regardless of position and one can’t discount the desire to show Belichick and the Patriots they made a mistake by not bringing him back. The Bills have a need at boundary corner opposite of Tre’davious White. Could a 1-year deal (a la what Derrel Revis did with New England) be in the cards?"

 

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2022/3/14/22977903/two-premier-defensive-free-agents-reached-out-to-bills-at-combine

 

We would have an unstoppable secondary. Wonder what it would cost. 

[BRH]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Not sure if this is well known.  Reportedly Bills were reached out to by JC Jackson at the Combine

 

He's tired of Diggs beating his ass.

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, davefan66 said:

Speculation is he was one of the guys to reportedly reach out to the Bills.  Other guy was Chandler Jones.

 

Wonder if the delay in signing of these guys is the Bills working on clearing cap space?

Well those are both UFAs so none of the real top ones have agreed to terms during tampering period yet

[NewEra]

D’vondre Campbell 5-50 with the packers per nfln.  Maybe we can get away giving edmunds less that that because he’s obviously not as good.

[ExWNYer]

37 minutes ago, nucci said:

So this is the actual start of free agency and not legal tampering?

 

These are reported 'agreements in principle' made by player agents and GMs. The new 2022 league year starts at 4:00 PM Wednesday and these deals cannot actually be signed until that time unless they are with the player's 2021 team, hence the stupid 'legal tampering' moniker. Teams are not allowed to talk to these players until the new league year begins (wink, wink, nod, nod) so everything is done thru engagement with the agents. Most of these are formalities at this point but they are not final until signed. A few years back, Minnesota's UFA LB Anthony Barr had a deal in place to go to the Jest during this window and backed out at the last second and re-signed with the Vikes. 

[CNY315]

 

[4merper4mer]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

D’vondre Campbell 5-50 with the packers per nfln.  Maybe we can get away giving edmunds less that that because he’s obviously not as good.

All Edmunds bashing all the time.  

[Process]

1 minute ago, CNY315 said:

 

The TE market is completely out of control. 

 

The amount of money bad to average TEs have gotten the past two off-seasons is crazy. 

 

Wtf. 

[CapeBreton]

2 minutes ago, CNY315 said:

 

 

We might want to extend Dawson Knox soon, yesterday would have been better.

[MiltonWaddams]

4 minutes ago, CNY315 said:

 

I need an agent like Collin Roberts to represent me in discussions with my wife. He could convince her I was at least average and ensure that I am way overvalued.

[DCOrange]

4 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

All Edmunds bashing all the time.  

It’s not really bashing in this case…Campbell was all pro this year. He is objectively much better. 

[CapeBreton]

3 minutes ago, Process said:

The TE market is completely out of control. 

 

The amount of money bad to average TEs have gotten the past two off-seasons is crazy. 

 

Wtf. 

 

Like when the Bills signed Tyler Kroft to a 3 year/$18,750,000 deal? That was just so bad.

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said:

All Edmunds bashing all the time.  

Not sure what’s worse, Edmunds’ processing speed or the people that think he’s worth 13M+ per year. 
 

he’s a good player but won’t be worth his contract from this point on imo and it will always be a talking point.  

[ExWNYer]

17 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

Like Bobby said, I bet this was Watson saying 'absolutely not' to the Jets. No clue on the Browns, though, you'd think he would want to go to that team. 

 

This is more than likely the case. Watson has to approve any deal due to his no trade clause. Houston Chronicle reporter John McClain, who has been covering Houston football since the 'Dark Ages', was on Sirius/XM NFL Radio yesterday and he speculated that Watson would end up with either the Panthers or Saints with the Seahawks as a darkhorse although he questioned New Orleans' ability to make it happen due to their cap situation. He said because Watson grew up in the South and played all of his football to this point in the South (Pee Wee, HS, college, & pro) he was most comfortable there and just couldn't see him approving a deal to a northern team like the Browns or Stillers. He also said that Watson would probably feel most comfortable and would be better accepted in Carolina because of his status at Clemson and the public's familiarity with him. Basically, Watson might receive less backlash from that fan base than most others. Unfortunately for the Texans, most of the leverage in this situation is held by Watson. 

[BuffBills51]

21 minutes ago, CNY315 said:

 

That is an absolutely insane deal for a mediocre tight end. I had him pegged as a guy the Bills might go after as a number 2 tight end but had him in the 4-5 million a year contract range.

[ExWNYer]

Rams C Brian Allen re-signs with LA...3 years, $24 million (Schefter).

[Realist]

4 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

 

This is more than likely the case. Watson has to approve any deal due to his no trade clause. Houston Chronicle reporter John McClain, who has been covering Houston football since the 'Dark Ages', was on Sirius/XM NFL Radio yesterday and he speculated that Watson would end up with either the Panthers or Saints with the Seahawks as a darkhorse although he questioned New Orleans' ability to make it happen due to their cap situation. He said because Watson grew up in the South and played all of his football to this point in the South (Pee Wee, HS, college, & pro) he was most comfortable there and just couldn't see him approving a deal to a northern team like the Browns or Stillers. He also said that Watson would probably feel most comfortable and would be better accepted in Carolina because of his status at Clemson and the public's familiarity with him. Basically, Watson might receive less backlash from that fan base than most others. Unfortunately for the Texans, most of the leverage in this situation is held by Watson. 

Not to mention he also may not want to go to an AFC team looking how loaded the conference is with top QB's. NFC has Rodgers, Brady, maybe Stafford, after that there is not many top QB's in the NFC.