Tim Graham: Bills stadium deal could be announced this week.

[DrDawkinstein]

15 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

I understand and respect your take. But In this case we have a choice. Either pay and make sure the Buffalo Bills remain the Buffalo Bills or watch the team leave and head off to a new city. This is the reality of the situation. We may not like or agree with it but again that’s the reality. So let’s be thankful that we’re keeping the team where they belong. 

 

 

Yep, its the cost of having a team to cheer for for such a small market.

[Punching Bag]

3 hours ago, CountDorkula said:

it absolutely does not cost 2 billion more.

 

It cost 2 billion total, as to 1.4.

 

They should move the Bills to Transylvania becoming the bats to make the count happy.

 

 

 

 

Edited March 3, 2022 by Limeaid

[CountDorkula]

46 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

I understand and respect your take. But In this case we have a choice. Either pay and make sure the Buffalo Bills remain the Buffalo Bills or watch the team leave and head off to a new city. This is the reality of the situation. We may not like or agree with it but again that’s the reality. So let’s be thankful that we’re keeping the team where they belong. 

To be honest I’m glad it’s staying in OP. Downtown would’ve been a ***** show

Billionaires have been skirting by for years avoiding paying for things and living by ther own set of rules. 

 

I get its an unpopular opinion. 

 

but also just remember the cost of relocation fees would also be over $700 million for the Peguals, which is less than what the Pegauls are set to pay for a new stadium. 

[BuffaloBills1998]

53 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Yep, its the cost of having a team to cheer for for such a small market.

It’s amazing that with our small market that we even have an NFL franchise. Although to this day i still don’t know how Jacksonville got an NFL team. That city has literally zero market

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

51 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

but also just remember the cost of relocation fees would also be over $700 million for the Peguals, which is less than what the Pegauls are set to pay for a new stadium. 

What's the low down on a relocation fee? Is that through the NFL to other owners? It's new to me. 

[Doc]

4 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

What's the low down on a relocation fee? Is that through the NFL to other owners? It's new to me. 

 

It's from the relocating owner to the other owners.  And it's the difference between the old market and new one.  How they come up with the exact amount, though, I have no idea.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

7 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

What's the low down on a relocation fee? Is that through the NFL to other owners? It's new to me. 

I think a great way to counter public funding is to make the amount the relocation fee. $1 billion to build the stadium, pay it back if you want to sell the team or move.

Edited March 3, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede

[CountDorkula]

23 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

It's from the relocating owner to the other owners.  And it's the difference between the old market and new one.  How they come up with the exact amount, though, I have no idea.

St Louis to LA was just shy of $645 Million a few years ago

 

Buffalo to Houston for example I could see being closer to 1 Billion. 

[TheFunPolice]

Is this a Zach Ertz thing or is it really going to be announced?

[Mat68]

Rich, Ralph, New Era, Hallmark is an extremely outdated stadium.  Having modern amenities, some relief from the elements seems like a win.  Its complaining about paying Allen.  Yes its expensive but its time.

[BuffaloBills1998]

22 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Is this a Zach Ertz thing or is it really going to be announced?

Yes it will be announced 

[Mattymafia]

Get it done before the inflation makes cost of building materials double the price. 

[boater]

Pittsburgh has grass and it looks pretty rough come November/December.

 

 

[Greg S]

1 minute ago, boater said:

Pittsburgh has grass and it looks pretty rough come November/December.

 

And yes. I worry about state politics mucking this up. NYC politicians can be so petty. They have short mans complex.

 

Gov Hochul is from Buffalo and a Bills fan so that can't hurt. She knows firsthand what the Bills mean to WNY.

[CountDorkula]

1 hour ago, Mat68 said:

Rich, Ralph, New Era, Hallmark is an extremely outdated stadium.  Having modern amenities, some relief from the elements seems like a win.  Its complaining about paying Allen.  Yes its expensive but its time.

if Taxpayers dollars went towards paying athlete, Im sure this would be a different tune. 

[SoCal Deek]

2 hours ago, CountDorkula said:

Billionaires have been skirting by for years avoiding paying for things and living by ther own set of rules. 

 

 

And you know this to be true because you’re a billionaire? Excellent! 

[That's No Moon]

1 hour ago, BUFFALOBART said:

I don't have any kids, either. I DO believe that funding Education, is an investment in the future of our Nation, and is money well spent. I disagree with how School Taxes are funded, however. (In NYS, only, property owners  foot the school tax bill) For me, that is $7k/yr..

I also don't mind public financing, of the Bills new Digs...

Renters indirectly pay property taxes via their rent. The property owners aren't eating any of that cost themselves for a rented unit.

[dwight in philly]

1 hour ago, boater said:

Pittsburgh has grass and it looks pretty rough come November/December.

 

And yes. I worry about state politics mucking this up. NYC politicians can be so petty. They have short mans complex.

Totally agree,  Citi Field , where the Mets play got lots of  State  taxpayer dollars.. the thought  of the elitist blowhards in NYC  impacting this .. is infuriating. 

[BillsfaninSB]

Just now, dwight in philly said:

Totally agree,  Citi Field , where the Mets play got lots of  State  taxpayer dollars.. the thought  of the elitist blowhards in NYC  impacting this .. is infuriating. 

Same with Yankee Stadium if I recall correctly. 

[dwight in philly]

Just now, BillsfaninSB said:

Same with Yankee Stadium if I recall correctly. 

I thought so.. but am not 100 per cent sure.. would not doubt it.. 

[BillsfaninSB]

[Simon]

5 hours ago, boater said:

Pittsburgh has grass and it looks pretty rough come November/December.

 

 

 

In addition to the Stillers, Pitt also plays at Heinz field.

Then they play a bunch of HS football games on that turf in November.

After that is when it starts getting torn up.

I don't think the Bills aren't going to have that problem.

[Codyny13]

I really think we’re missing the boat when it comes to stadium location. I don’t live in Buffalo, so obviously it wouldn’t affect me as far as traffic and other hold-ups that residents would need to deal with, but re-locating the stadium downtown overlooking the lake and city just seems that much better to me. I have season tickets and coming from NYC, I usually stay at least one night, the night before, or night after the game at the Marriott downtown. Walking around, most times it seems like a ghost town in the space all around the harbor center, and the casino. If the Sabres aren’t playing, bars are closed, and unless you’re getting in the car, things to do are slim. I don’t think the tailgating would change all the much. Bills fans know how to do it, and they’ll find a way, especially in this social media driven world we live in. The tram that runs past the harbor center. Do people actually use that? It just seems like a beautiful stadium down there would attract new business, new hotels, greater use of the surrounding area and improved infrastructure amongst many things. Again, I’m a visitor, so I have different views here.

[SoCal Deek]

6 hours ago, Codyny13 said:

I really think we’re missing the boat when it comes to stadium location. I don’t live in Buffalo, so obviously it wouldn’t affect me as far as traffic and other hold-ups that residents would need to deal with, but re-locating the stadium downtown overlooking the lake and city just seems that much better to me. I have season tickets and coming from NYC, I usually stay at least one night, the night before, or night after the game at the Marriott downtown. Walking around, most times it seems like a ghost town in the space all around the harbor center, and the casino. If the Sabres aren’t playing, bars are closed, and unless you’re getting in the car, things to do are slim. I don’t think the tailgating would change all the much. Bills fans know how to do it, and they’ll find a way, especially in this social media driven world we live in. The tram that runs past the harbor center. Do people actually use that? It just seems like a beautiful stadium down there would attract new business, new hotels, greater use of the surrounding area and improved infrastructure amongst many things. Again, I’m a visitor, so I have different views here.

All great comments. Buffalo is at a crossroads for sure. If they let this major public improvement stay in the suburbs it’ll be another 50 years (if ever) before something of this magnitude comes to downtown. That doesn’t mean it’s wrong to stay in OP. Maybe downtown Buffalo is just…in a word…done.

[Hammers Lot]

Listen to David B on Wben930am. He said they will break away when Stadium announcement happens today. 

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

All great comments. Buffalo is at a crossroads for sure. If they let this major public improvement stay in the suburbs it’ll be another 50 years (if ever) before something of this magnitude comes to downtown. That doesn’t mean it’s wrong to stay in OP. Maybe downtown Buffalo is just…in a word…done.

 

 

Crazy Eddie is buying the Sabres from Pegula and a lot of prime commercial real estate in Buffalo.........he made a score with his real estate moves in DC.........maybe a stadium downtown isn't a necessity. 

[Simon]

52 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Crazy Eddie is buying the Sabres from Pegula and a lot of prime commercial real estate in Buffalo.........he made a score with his real estate moves in DC.........maybe a stadium downtown isn't a necessity. 

What?

That's InSane......

[Buffalo_Stampede]

54 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Crazy Eddie is buying the Sabres from Pegula and a lot of prime commercial real estate in Buffalo.........he made a score with his real estate moves in DC.........maybe a stadium downtown isn't a necessity. 

I'm buying the Sabres. 

[Don Otreply]

Well…, it’s Friday…, not this week then I take it…, 

[CountDorkula]

3 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Well…, it’s Friday…, not this week then I take it…, 

hinting at it i guess?

[That's No Moon]

1 hour ago, BUFFALOBART said:

For income properties, taxes are a business expense for owners, and therefore, deductible.

taxes still get paid though

[YoloinOhio]

On 3/3/2022 at 2:54 PM, boater said:

Pittsburgh has grass and it looks pretty rough come November/December.

 

 

U of Pitt uses it too . Grass is the only option. Players revolting against turf

Edited March 4, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[LeGOATski]

17 hours ago, Codyny13 said:

I really think we’re missing the boat when it comes to stadium location. I don’t live in Buffalo, so obviously it wouldn’t affect me as far as traffic and other hold-ups that residents would need to deal with, but re-locating the stadium downtown overlooking the lake and city just seems that much better to me. I have season tickets and coming from NYC, I usually stay at least one night, the night before, or night after the game at the Marriott downtown. Walking around, most times it seems like a ghost town in the space all around the harbor center, and the casino. If the Sabres aren’t playing, bars are closed, and unless you’re getting in the car, things to do are slim. I don’t think the tailgating would change all the much. Bills fans know how to do it, and they’ll find a way, especially in this social media driven world we live in. The tram that runs past the harbor center. Do people actually use that? It just seems like a beautiful stadium down there would attract new business, new hotels, greater use of the surrounding area and improved infrastructure amongst many things. Again, I’m a visitor, so I have different views here.

A dead area is a dead area. It needs year-round entertainment to thrive, not a stadium.

[boater]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

U of Pitt uses it too . Grass is the only option. Players revolting against turf

Get ready for Mud Bowl 2026 and beyond.

[TheFunPolice]

Still 2 hours left in this week I less we're going calendar week then we have to tomorrow! 

[The Wiz]

4 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

taxes still get paid though

Death, taxes and upset wives. Things that you can't avoid in life. 

[Punching Bag]

On 3/3/2022 at 6:05 PM, BillsfaninSB said:

 

 

He said "could". It also could rain money and Bills could move to Austin.  Could me means maybe or maybe not or I COULD be making stuff up.  I think latter is most probable.

[JDubya76]

To be fair to thin skin Tim he didn’t say which week this week is. With the passing of every Monday it could be that this particular week is this week. 

[Codyny13]

16 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

A dead area is a dead area. It needs year-round entertainment to thrive, not a stadium.

Agreed, but a facelift, infrastructure repair, and big business don’t hurt in attracting investment and other business. Again, as a visitor to the city, it’s something that would attract me to an area, as I want to stay downtown, rather I find myself going up to Hyrtle or Elmwood, which are great areas, but i like many others,I think, would prefer not to get into a car to go check things out, and especially not to go to the stadium. 

[LeGOATski]

On 3/5/2022 at 10:58 AM, Codyny13 said:

Agreed, but a facelift, infrastructure repair, and big business don’t hurt in attracting investment and other business. Again, as a visitor to the city, it’s something that would attract me to an area, as I want to stay downtown, rather I find myself going up to Hyrtle or Elmwood, which are great areas, but i like many others,I think, would prefer not to get into a car to go check things out, and especially not to go to the stadium. 

That would be great, but I just think you have it backwards. You build a stadium there because of the area. You don't build up the area because of the stadium. The way you describe it is putting the cart before the horse. Buffalo metro has a declining population. It's not a growing entertainment district.