Antonio Williams signs with Giants

[Heitz]

2 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

Shoen knows this guy should have been playing. This should be an eye opener. 

 

ZMOG, Shoen is already outsmarting Beane!  I KNEW Beane was just a figurehead GM - INTO THE VOLCANO!!

 

[Starr Almighty]

2 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Give it a rest.  Orchard Park isn't in Buffalo.  Both cities are pretty close to the football stadiums.  Also Met-Life is in East Rutherford.  

I live in NYC we don't consider any of NJ part of us. Also you are East trying to hard. You may not be aware but they are 2 different states. It's not a city thing 🤡🤡🤡

Edited January 27, 2022 by Starr Almighty

[Ross Murdock]

Yawn... Good luck Mr. Williams. Maybe you can talk them into taking Moss as well. Bills need an injection of talent at RB. I'm still not sold that Motor is truly a No 1 back. He had a nice 4 games. Hopefully he builds on his late year success in 2022.   

[Albany,n.y.]

4 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

I live in NYC we don't consider any of NJ part of us. Also you are East trying to hard. You may not be aware but they are 2 different states. It's not a city thing 🤡🤡🤡

Stop the BS!  You obviously don't get the concept of a metropolitan area.  Look it up Thurman. I'm a native of NYC, born in the Bronx grew up on L.I.    I know that northeastern NJ is part of the NYC metropolitan area, why don't you?  You can see Manhattan from East Rutherford.  There are tons of people who every day commute from NJ to NYC.   

[Greatdane21]

I hope Bean finds a replacement soon - with schoen in NY - and Daboll in Miami the poaching of coaches and players has already started ! So much for the process!

[ArtVandalay]

2 hours ago, FLFan said:

Yes.  There was a conspiracy of Beane and McD and the other coaches to keep Williams off the field although he was clearly superior to other options.  Schoen knows the truth!  Or it could be that Bills management knows better than the fans and that the Giants depth is no5 as Good so Williams has a better opportunity there.  

Are you off your meds or something? Have you never heard of a front office and coach disagreeing on a player? It's pretty common.

 

It's also funny because McDermott actually buried McKenzie all season this year and the one time he got to play when the team was forced to he absolutely torched NE. So yes, he buried another player that deserved to be out there. 

 

What's eye opening about this is the fact when he did play he was extremely effective,  noticeably more explosive than our other backs. We struggled at RB this year abs he could have helped many fans thought. Then Shoen's first day on the job he immediately goes and signs him.  Yes that is eye opening and the fans weren't just being ridiculous, kid has talent and Shoen obviously likes him a lot. 

 

Maybe the next coach there in NJ doesn't like him either.  But Shoen likes him enough to sign him first day on the job.

Edited January 27, 2022 by ArtVandalay

[HOUSE]

Big comeback by the Jets & Giants, I can feel it now...

[Mr. WEO]

52 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I can't believe the Bears and Chargers both passed on Daboll. Considering the young qbs. If he does land in NYG or Miami,  he'll struggle without a qb.

 

 

Chargers fire Staley already?

[Starr Almighty]

24 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Stop the BS!  You obviously don't get the concept of a metropolitan area.  Look it up Thurman. I'm a native of NYC, born in the Bronx grew up on L.I.    I know that northeastern NJ is part of the NYC metropolitan area, why don't you?  You can see Manhattan from East Rutherford.  There are tons of people who every day commute from NJ to NYC.   

Conn. Is part of the metro area too can I see that from Manhattan? Sorry but they play in NJ not NY. Perhaps you think the dodgers should still be called the Brooklyn Dodgers as well. It's in an entirely different state.

[Albany,n.y.]

12 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

Conn. Is part of the metro area too can I see that from Manhattan? Sorry but they play in NJ not NY. Perhaps you think the dodgers should still be called the Brooklyn Dodgers as well. It's in an entirely different state.

Is your name Abdiell Suero?  You sure sound like him: 

Although the both teams operate in and represent the greater New York metropolitan area, the fact that the New York Giants and New York Jets have played in East Rutherford, N.J. for decades has been a point of contention for those whose pride resides on a certain side of the Hudson River.

 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/fan-sues-giants-jets-for-6-billion-demanding-both-teams-leave-new-jersey-and-play-home-games-in-new-york/

 

 

Edited January 28, 2022 by Albany,n.y.

[FLFan]

36 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

Are you off your meds or something? Have you never heard of a front office and coach disagreeing on a player? It's pretty common.

 

It's also funny because McDermott actually buried McKenzie all season this year and the one time he got to play when the team was forced to he absolutely torched NE. So yes, he buried another player that deserved to be out there. 

 

What's eye opening about this is the fact when he did play he was extremely effective,  noticeably more explosive than our other backs. We struggled at RB this year abs he could have helped many fans thought. Then Shoen's first day on the job he immediately goes and signs him.  Yes that is eye opening and the fans weren't just being ridiculous, kid has talent and Shoen obviously likes him a lot. 

 

Maybe the next coach there in NJ doesn't like him either.  But Shoen likes him enough to sign him first day on the job.

No, I am not off my meds, just using my brain.

 

I am not sure what this conversation has to do with MacKenzie, but OK.  Clearly a whole different set of issues there, but sorry to confuse you.

 

The very last time Antonio Williams  played and was effective was the final game of the 2020 season against a Miami team that had clearly given up.  He was not productive in preseason this year and was not productive when he was active. He did not play because he is not very good.  Your opinion is half baked at best.  Do you have any actual facts to back up your half baked opinion?  

 

As far as signing him first day on the job, look around.  Every team  is signing their bottom of the roster, future practice squad guys at this time.  Every team. The bills are obviously moving on from a guy who has not been able to make an imact in spite of two years of opportunity.  Maybe he can impact the Giants, who are not remotely close to the Bills in terms of established talent.  The Bills will have plenty of new camp fodder for fans to drool over next year.

 

Now, if you have any rational argument to make to any of that, with actual facts not half baked opinions and insults, have at it.  

 

Otherwise, go rev up your black helicopter somewhere else.  

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

4 hours ago, Starr Almighty said:

Poor guy doesn't know Rutherford isn't in the Big Apple

 

Rotten Apple ??😉

 

 

4 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

We need healthy RB's

 

We need really fast shifty RBs

 

 

[ArtVandalay]

Just now, FLFan said:

No, I am not off my meds, just using my brain.

 

I am not sure what this conversation has to do with MacKenzie, but OK.  Clearly a whole different set of issues there, but sorry to confuse you.

 

The very last time Antonio Williams  played and was effective was the final game of the 2020 season against a Miami team that had clearly given up.  He was not productive in preseason this year and was not productive when he was active. He did not play because he is not very good.  Your opinion is half baked at best.  Do you have any actual facts to back up your half baked opinion?  

 

As far as signing him first day on the job, look around.  Every team  is signing their bottom of the roster, future practice squad guys at this time.  Every team. The bills are obviously moving on from a guy who has not been able to make an imact in spite of two years of opportunity.  Maybe he can impact the Giants, who are not remotely close to the Bills in terms of established talent.  The Bills will have plenty of new camp fodder for fans to drool over next year.

 

Now, if you have any rational argument to make to any of that, with actual facts not half baked opinions and insults, have at it.  

 

Otherwise, go rev up your black helicopter somewhere else.  

 

 

The point of McKenzie is pretty obvious. You were mocking the fact that the coaching staff would not play a guy that should be playing.  And McKenzie is a prime example of a guy put in the dog house who should have been on the field. 

 

Williams has better size and measurables than both Moss and Singletary, that's a fact.  He looked noticeably explosive in 2020 as a result. He got 7 carries this preseason so don't act like he got a chance and failed.  

 

Fans wanted him to get a shot at a position of need.  He didn't get it. 

 

Our assistant GMs very first signing on his very first day was to get him. 

 

Yes, that's eye opening. It doesn't mean he's a star but it certainly means Shoen like him a lot much like the fans did and perhaps he didn't play because coach didn't like him... like McKenzie.

[Starr Almighty]

1 hour ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Is your name Abdiell Suero?  You sure sound like him: 

Although the both teams operate in and represent the greater New York metropolitan area, the fact that the New York Giants and New York Jets have played in East Rutherford, N.J. for decades has been a point of contention for those whose pride resides on a certain side of the Hudson River.

 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/fan-sues-giants-jets-for-6-billion-demanding-both-teams-leave-new-jersey-and-play-home-games-in-new-york/

 

 

Operate and play are two different things. I'm well aware that the office is in NY so they can use the name for money, but if you think anyone in NYC thinks NJ is part of NY you need to put the bottle down. You should do it anyway cause you are drunk.

[Albany,n.y.]

10 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

Operate and play are two different things. I'm well aware that the office is in NY so they can use the name for money, but if you think anyone in NYC thinks NJ is part of NY you need to put the bottle down. You should do it anyway cause you are drunk.

I don't drink, fool.  NJ is considered part of the NY metro area and nothing you say or think will change that.  Of course NJ isn't part of the city, but you are seriously being obtuse.  

[Rocky Landing]

Because of the value that Beane, and McDermott place on character, any team can rest assured that any player coming through Buffalo will, at the very least, have a good work ethic.

[Starr Almighty]

51 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

I don't drink, fool.  NJ is considered part of the NY metro area and nothing you say or think will change that.  Of course NJ isn't part of the city, but you are seriously being obtuse.  

I'm a fool but you think NJ is part of NY. Notice how you keep saying NY metro area in place of Tri-state area which would prove my case.  Perhaps I'll start a poll to see if anyone else thinks they are separate states 🙄

Edited January 28, 2022 by Starr Almighty

[Ralonzo]

6 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Hard to believe AW couldn't get on the field for the Bills.

 

The Miami game was one thing, he was terrific. But in preseason he looked like just a guy. Of course that's the last we saw.

[Punching Bag]

6 hours ago, Rubes said:

Shoen is already stealing our guys away. Will it become Buffalo East?

 

 

I prefer the term "Buffalo Jersey".

[letsgoteam]

6 hours ago, Rubes said:

Shoen is already stealing our guys away. Will it become Buffalo East?

 

Yes, it will. Especially if BD or LF is the head coach.

[FarrellsFinest]

8 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Hard to believe AW couldn't get on the field for the Bills.

And the new GM knows full well he should have thats why he is not waisting time talking him off our hands.

[LyndonvilleBill]

He just may be the 1st of a few. To build a culture like we have, you need to have a few guys that have been there. I would expect a few more guys to go over the next few weeks. Maybe even one from each position group. Even if they are PSquad, backups or UFA, they been part of the culture and could be valuable to a team that needs this kind of change.

[Beerball]

7 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

He just may be the 1st of a few. To build a culture like we have, you need to have a few guys that have been there. I would expect a few more guys to go over the next few weeks. Maybe even one from each position group. Even if they are PSquad, backups or UFA, they been part of the culture and could be valuable to a team that needs this kind of change.

QB

RB

TE

WR

OT

OG

C

DT

DE

ILB

OLB

CB

S

Should we include specialists?

 

[LyndonvilleBill]

14 minutes ago, Beerball said:

QB

RB

TE

WR

OT

OG

C

DT

DE

ILB

OLB

CB

S

Should we include specialists?

 

Group, not position.... 

 

Wr 

Ol

Dl

Lb

DB 

Rb - williams

Qb 

[Mr. WEO]

16 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

Shoen knows this guy should have been playing. This should be an eye opener. 

 

16 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Hard to believe AW couldn't get on the field for the Bills.

 

13 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

 

 

What's eye opening about this is the fact when he did play he was extremely effective,  noticeably more explosive than our other backs.  t. 

 

 

 

12 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

 

 

Williams has better size and measurables than both Moss and Singletary, that's a fact.  He looked noticeably explosive in 2020 as a result. He got 7 carries this preseason so don't act like he got a chance and failed.  

 

Fans wanted him to get a shot at a position of need.  He didn't get it. 

 

Our assistant GMs very first signing on his very first day was to get him. 

 

Yes, that's eye opening. It doesn't mean he's a star but it certainly means Shoen like him a lot much like the fans did and perhaps he didn't play because coach didn't like him... like McKenzie.

 

 

Wow!  the legend of Antoni Williams!!

 

To refresh the memories, this guy played in one single game in his Bills career (1 year ago): a Bills end of season pigpile on the  Dolphins where the Bills were emptying the bench (Matt Barkley looked explosive with 164 yards and TD!,  creeky old Smoke Brown with 72 yards and a TD--even McKenzie got in on the action, accruing 1/4 of his season total yards receiving).

 

This guy was a zero for the Bills.  A scrub showcased in a meaningless beatdown.

[Beerball]

2 hours ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

Group, not position.... 

 

Wr 

Ol

Dl

Lb

DB 

Rb - williams

Qb 

You stated position groups. While some are interchangeable others are not. We can get more granular with position groups if you like and break them down further into slot receiver, 3 technique dt etc but, I was being kind.

[YoloinOhio]

9 hours ago, FarrellsFinest said:

And the new GM knows full well he should have thats why he is not waisting time talking him off our hands.

I think that’s being a bit extreme. The giants have a bad roster and he’s signing a kid he knows for their 90-man. That’s about it. He will be the one cutting, re-signing, cutting, re-signing to his PS now. 

Edited January 28, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[T master]

19 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

 

 

In some ways it doesn't surprise me they kept him on the bench after giving some really good playing time in past games even though the run game in B/lo was not really good he still didn't get a chance & i for 1 think he would have been a better back than Moss but that's just me i guess .

 

So cudo's to him for going after it and looking elsewhere i just hope it doesn't come back to bite the Bills in the A** now day  !! 

[Nitro]

19 hours ago, Motorin' said:

And Joe Schoen launches his first strike.

 He will pick a few guys who will bring the attitude and mentality that the Giants need

[FlaFitz1]

20 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

IT'S HAPPENING!!!! Getting a head start on Daboll's arrivial. There will be an opening when Barkley becomes a Bill as well...

 

 

Matt Barkley?  He's coming back?

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 minutes ago, FlaFitz1 said:

 

 

Matt Barkley?  He's coming back?

Honestly with what looks to be available on the FA backup QB market...if/when we lose Trubisky it wouldn't shock me.

[FarrellsFinest]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think that’s being a bit extreme. The giants have a bad roster and he’s signing a kid he knows for their 90-man. That’s about it. He will be the one cutting, re-signing, cutting, re-signing to his PS now. 

I guess we shall see. Im concerened with this staff ability to judge talent. 

[YoloinOhio]

6 minutes ago, FarrellsFinest said:

I guess we shall see. Im concerened with this staff ability to judge talent. 

Antonio Williams could barely get on the field at Ohio state or UNC either. Why are you concerned that he couldn’t get on the field for the Bills? 

[Billzgobowlin]

And so the train from Buffalo to New York will start chugging.  They will raid our practice squad of backups and depth

[Punching Bag]

11 hours ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

He just may be the 1st of a few. To build a culture like we have, you need to have a few guys that have been there. I would expect a few more guys to go over the next few weeks. Maybe even one from each position group. Even if they are PSquad, backups or UFA, they been part of the culture and could be valuable to a team that needs this kind of change.

 

And Jiants fans will complain about Bills players signed preferring to stew in mediocracy just like Bills fans did when Carolina players were signed.

6 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Honestly with what looks to be available on the FA backup QB market...if/when we lose Trubisky it wouldn't shock me.

 

He will not be "lost" since it was end of his contract he is a free agent. 

I do hope he gets a highly paid one increasing chance of a comp pick rather than a one year prove it deal.

[Peter]

On 1/27/2022 at 3:07 PM, Starr Almighty said:

Poor guy doesn't know Rutherford isn't in the Big Apple

Orchard Park is not in Buffalo.

[LyndonvilleBill]

5 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

And Jiants fans will complain about Bills players signed preferring to stew in mediocracy just like Bills fans did when Carolina players were signed.

Probably. Hey wait, what do you mean "Bills fans DID"? Still DO.😉

[Punching Bag]

4 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

Probably. Hey wait, what do you mean "Bills fans DID"? Still DO.😉

 

Yes some who suck on Chris Collinsworth's PFF teat and Jerry Sullivan's other body part.

[klos63]

On 1/27/2022 at 1:30 PM, zow2 said:

This is such a nothingburger for Buffalo.   Congrats to Williams.

nothingburger?  I don't understand that word.  What's the burger part mean?

[Real McClappy]

20 hours ago, Starr Almighty said:

I'm a fool but you think NJ is part of NY. Notice how you keep saying NY metro area in place of Tri-state area which would prove my case.  Perhaps I'll start a poll to see if anyone else thinks they are separate states 🙄

Wasn't this already settled by the Supreme court in 1998?