Sharky7337 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The Browns are respectable. The Bills are much better than that. Sean is that you? I'm sorry Sean! Next time I'll break out the thesaurus!!! I'll execute my adjectives better ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Your preparation assessment is an excellent insight. Maybe I'm drilling down to far here but it made me think of another disadvantage the Bills might have when it comes to playing the Chiefs. I'm not suggesting any Jedi mind tricks or stuff like that but I wonder if another problem is that through their past association that Andy Reid knows how Sean McDermott thinks better than anyone else. For another example, look no further than how some former Patriot assistants like fired Dolphins HC Brian Flores seem to have good success against Belichik. Is it because they know very well how the NE HC thinks? So rather than suggesting Sean become more aggressive maybe he needs to become more unpredictable? Because I'll bet that Andy knew in crunch time at the end of the game just exactly what Sean was going to do. Knowledge of your opponent can’t hurt, right? Especially when there isn’t a lot of change or growth. I’ll give Reid a lot of credit. When he was with the Iggles the joke was that he bought his tickets to Hawaii cheap because he got them early. For the youngsters here, that was because he seemed to always coach the NFC team in the Pro Bowl which used to be held every year in Hawaii. It was an honor that was given to the head coach of the losing teams in the AFC and NFC championship games. And he was there a lot. He was a very good coach, but he has grown into a great one. Sure, he’s got Mahomes instead of McNabb, but he’s so much better now. He'd get his team far, but you just knew that he blow it at some point. He’s grown from one who was at McDermott’s level (and that’s certainly better than most) into what we have seen in KC. We just have to hope that McDermott elevates his game - or finds coordinators that do. Incidentally I think Daboll did a fantastic job, but is gone to the Giants this year. Hopefully Dorsey is up to the challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I’d say the majority of fans are slow playing it here. Acting like it’s a given that we will be back several times. I’m not sure where that silliness comes from. All your window does is shrink rapidly once you pay the QB. You have to cash in on one of these soon because you never know when you aren’t going back. I’m sick about Sunday because I’m not the guy that just “knows” we will be back. You have to enjoy the ride each time because it could be it at any time. We of all fan bases should understand that. Keep pissing away these chances and all of a sudden you wake up and you are the Phillip Rivers Chargers. We should have won the super bowl this year. That’s not something you get to say to often. Exactly. No guarantees at all. What did Rivers make , one AFC title game? May have just watched our best chance ever slip by. 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Is Jerry right? Or just channeling people's frustrations? Because that's been his recipe his entire career. Pressing buttons. This time he’s right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, Boatdrinks said: This time he’s right. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Ugh... Watched the live replay of the final 13 seconds. The Bills lined up in that shell defense before each timeout and then proceeded to lineup the same way at the snap. The 1st play to Hill you see a Bills coach, not McDermott, waving everyone to backup more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 People kept acting like the 1 seed isn’t that important. And hey both 1 seeds lost last weekend so there, I said it for anyone that is going to jump on me…..but for THIS team it’s very simple: In our history we almost NEVER lose playoff games at home we almost NEVER win playoff games on the road The 1 means a lot to us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Wait, this squirrel has eyes!! Thanks for the laugh, PTR, I needed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, pigpen65 said: Something is definitely wrong when a team has to have a double digit lead to get out of the game with a win. They lost every single close game this year. That's horrifying. Its also just some bad luck. Josh slipped against Tenn. Blocked FG vs Pitt. Cody Ford had to play vs Jax, Hurricane vs Pats*, Coin Toss vs Bucs/Chiefs Sometimes it just happens that way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, QCity said: Even Jerry is throwing a tantrum. I know, I know, you're not going to click on it (you will). Sullivan: Bills' McDermott choked away Super Bowl-caliber season Hard to argue with a single word of it. Josh Allen has been covering up the shortcomings of this coaching staff for three seasons now. Without him, McDermott might not be much better than the mediocrities who preceded him…we might never have a better chance… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, pigpen65 said: Something is definitely wrong when a team has to have a double digit lead to get out of the game with a win. They lost every single close game this year. That's horrifying. Don't know what to think of that. As it was, none of the 5 close losses were like this one with the D on the field, protecting a lead as regulation time was running down. Yeah, they needed to be in prevent defense with 13 seconds to go, KC with 3 to's and at the ball at the 25. But they played the wrong kind of prevent. I don't think that they had repped a situation like that in live action the entire season. Did they call the wrong type of D or did they call it right and the players messed it up? Do their options even have nuance to protect against a FG with 3 opponent tos vs. a TD with no tos? They should options but maybe it didn't. McDermott won't say what the problem was but he is protecting someone's reputation. That's a very football thing. In every other major sport it's pretty easy to see the person(s) that owns the mistakes. Frazier's makes the most sense since he is trying to get a HC gig and it would be very bad timing to have him take the blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Wait, this squirrel has eyes!! Thanks for the laugh, PTR, I needed it. Couldn't find a blind squirrel gif. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Is Jerry right? Or just channeling people's frustrations? Because that's been his recipe his entire career. Pressing buttons. Care to dispute anything in the column, Promo? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: No way. That's a toxic environment. Criticism is fair, they weren't good in the big moment. This is correct. This isn't the way the Bills are run, and this culture is a big piece of this engine. Start being petty and you stop attracting up-and-comer coordinators and execs who want to advance their careers. I am sure behind closed doors there is a lot of attention being paid to the failures of the end of that game there. It is being done respectfully and clinically. They will use it to get stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Someone has to go. Make a big change on defensive side. You just don’t get opportunities like the Bills had to fall into your lap every season. It’s going to be hard to host an AFC title game much less one without Mahomes in it. May never get as good a look at a Super Bowl, even with Josh. Firing Frazier probably has the opposite affect. Players wouldn't respect McDermott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 hours ago, QCity said: Even Jerry is throwing a tantrum. I know, I know, you're not going to click on it (you will). Sullivan: Bills' McDermott choked away Super Bowl-caliber season Don't give him the clicks. Please don't give him the clicks. Of all the things that could make this sad week sadder, coming in here to see a thread spouting Sullivan's nonsense is salt in the wounds. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: People kept acting like the 1 seed isn’t that important. And hey both 1 seeds lost last weekend so there, I said it for anyone that is going to jump on me…..but for THIS team it’s very simple: In our history we almost NEVER lose playoff games at home we almost NEVER win playoff games on the road The 1 means a lot to us I’ll disagree here. That may be true in the teams past history, but the NFL is different now. This loss wasn’t about the home field. While I’d have loved our chances in a home title game, it was more about home vs CIN. Home vs the Chiefs I would be a bit more uncomfortable about the outcome. There isn’t a huge home field advantage in the NFL anymore and the Bills were a botched 13 seconds from winning at Arrowhead twice this season. Without their best CB to boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 When I read columns like this, I think about the history of what I consider Bills "over" reaction. The firings of Polian and Butler were over-reactions to losses and those decisions had long term consequences. The overreaction to the events in Nashville in 2000 set the franchise into the controlled decent into terrain that was the 2000s. I know the loss hurts, but I hope the Bills take a very deep breath before "making changes." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 My only solace with any of this, and it's helping me cope...is that for 17 years we didn't sniff the playoffs. The Bills were mediocre or bad, sometimes a laughingstock, Tom Brady's b*tch, blah blah blah. It was almost like Buffalo was not part of the NFL. So now we are back to being really good. With that comes another soul-crushing loss in the playoffs. I'd still rather have this than those 17 years of nothingness. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, mannc said: Care to dispute anything in the column, Promo? The thumbnail given upthread tells me all I need to know. Jerry doesn't "know" anything. He's a professional finger pointer. He can't tell you what went wrong. Only that it was wrong and point a finger of blame. I don't need Jerry to know that. All he wants is for my blood pressure to go up. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Extremely fair and accurate accounting of the game I'm not going to read it to dispute that or not, but based on Sullivan's past track record (the reason I'm not going to read it), I doubt the "fair" and the "accurate" part. This IS the guy who dissed off the press box spread under the Pegulas as being mini-bagels, only to have someone else post a pic of the entire thread. 2 hours ago, Nextmanup said: I'm sure this won't stop an army of posters here from trashing Jerry and the column, despite never reading a word of it. Such is the way of ignorance. I would say the "way of ignorance" is to keep doing the same thing (reading Jerry Sullivan) and expecting a different result (a "fair and accurate" accounting). But You do You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Mark80 said: So, if we won the coin toss would everyone be saying that Andy Reid choked away that game and be calling for heads? Didn't think so. There's a massive difference. If the Chiefs lose that game the talking point is Allen's superstardom- It was his moment and he took the win with otherworldly play. Instead, our incompetent coaching over the 13 seconds gave them the tie- they didn't need to do anything special to take it. The touchback and then two pitch and catches like I'm playing catch in my backyard. Inexcusable. It's one thing to get beat by an epic play- the music city miracle- or by your own failed execution- wide right- but being let down by such incredible coaching blunders... Beyond disappointing. Obviously Sean is not going anywhere. But he cost us and robbed us all of an epic moment. Josh's moment. It would be electric right now and we would be the ***** SB favorites. Instead, we go out with a pathetic whimper adding "13 seconds" to the history of heartbreak. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Buddy Hix said: Allen just turned in the greatest playoff performance I’ve seen in back to back games, I think maybe the greatest ever on record. And McD wasted that with his incompetence, I don’t see that changing. McD mismanages game situations all the time. On top of that, McD spent a year game planning for KC and turned in a worse performance. Agree, however. Don't know If I blame McD as much as I do Frazier. He has had issues all season that I think McD stepped in to fix. Like switching up smaller defenders to bigger to stop the run. Frazier stated just stack the box with the starters and that should be enough. It clearly wasn't! That entire defensive game plan for the 13 seconds and OT were kind of mind boggling to me. Rush with four and protect the sidelines...while allowing Hill, Kelce to run free up the middle. 13 seconds. Yes, making the Chiefs field that ball would have taken time off the clock and even Tony Romo questioned that call. Going into that kickoff the Bills had a 94.3% win probability and I get why they wanted to keep the ball out of the hands of that KC returner, Pringle. BUT, had they kicked short and covered that kick. (Buffalo had allowed only 18 yards per kickoff return this season) It would have taken 4-5 seconds off the clock, leaving 9 seconds to make plays...it took them 10 seconds to run those to plays to get into position to kick that OT FG. That supposed Bills #1 defense gave up 522 yards of offense in this game. I'd be happy to move on from Frazier on way or another... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan boy '92 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 It wasn't just the last 13 seconds. Frazier and McD had Poyer and Hyde playing a soft shell the entire game. Reid had Mahomes hit almost every pass underneath the safeties. They were practically playing 9 on 11 football. Reid worked McD again. McD's trademark soft D will work against lesser teams, but will never beat talent like Mahomes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Xwnyer said: Sullivan is a joke and hack always has been That's actually not true. Once, he was a decent writer with a fresh voice and a talent for being a bit controversial. Over the Drought Years, it became a schtick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) Knowing what was coming, I tweeted this the minute the game ended. Edited January 25, 2022 by PromoTheRobot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Fan boy '92 said: It wasn't just the last 13 seconds. Frazier and McD had Poyer and Hyde playing a soft shell the entire game. Reid had Mahomes hit almost every pass underneath the safeties. They were practically playing 9 on 11 football. Reid worked McD again. McD's trademark soft D will work against lesser teams, but will never beat talent like Mahomes. Week 5 of the 2021 season says "Hello" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Ugh... Watched the live replay of the final 13 seconds. The Bills lined up in that shell defense before each timeout and then proceeded to lineup the same way at the snap. The 1st play to Hill you see a Bills coach, not McDermott, waving everyone to backup more. I honestly think McDermott might have thought we had a 4-point lead…I thought so for a second, watching it on TV. It’s really the only explanation. I hope someone asks him… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, mannc said: Hard to argue with a single word of it. Josh Allen has been covering up the shortcomings of this coaching staff for three seasons now. Without him, McDermott might not be much better than the mediocrities who preceded him…we might never have a better chance… I keep reading this, but IDK, as I recall Josh was a tad bit raw when he came out of collage and this staff had at least *something* to do with his development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: The thumbnail given upthread tells me all I need to know. Jerry doesn't "know" anything. He's a professional finger pointer. He can't tell you what went wrong. Only that it was wrong and point a finger of blame. I don't need Jerry to know that. All he wants is for my blood pressure to go up. So you didn’t read it. Thanks for playing… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, mannc said: So you didn’t read it. Thanks for playing… I won't give him my attention. Sorry. He has no cred with me anymore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan boy '92 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Week 5 of the 2021 season says "Hello" Week 5 was was nice n all, but when the chips are down, how confident are you that McDermott will out coach the other guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mannc Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: I won't give him my attention. Sorry. He has no cred with me anymore. Then why are you posting in this thread? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Fan boy '92 said: Week 5 was was nice n all, but when the chips are down, how confident are you that McDermott will out coach the other guy? Lol, yeah that was the I recall attitude going into that game. "Who cares that we beat the Chiefs in the regular season?" 1 minute ago, mannc said: Then why are you posting in this thread? It's a free country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Man i'm not a Jerry fan but you can't argue this one ! Everything he wrote in this article was pretty much dead nuts as i remember it & i actually asked the same questions of what the coach called weather it was McD or Frazier . The one saving grace that i have seen with McD & his team is that they learns & grow from their mistakes & in the same scenario in any future games i think he will make the right calls because of how much this one hurts . And that's all we can hope for going forward because if this team wasn't this good or as talented as it is and we as fans didn't believe in what & where they can go it wouldn't hurt this bad . So as Bills fans we need to sit back, lick our wounds & watch the growth of the coach along with his team and be there with them next time because these guys aren't going away anytime soon !! GO BILLS !!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Next season the Bills will probably split their close games...have more injuries...finish around 10-7 or 11-6, make the playoffs and who knows.. The killer this year was they did the hard part. They came back and beat the Chiefs in Arrowhead...er, except for 13 seconds. That game was won. Only the Bills staff could somehow scheme us to a loss. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, SWATeam said: There's a massive difference. If the Chiefs lose that game the talking point is Allen's superstardom- It was his moment and he took the win with otherworldly play. Instead, our incompetent coaching over the 13 seconds gave them the tie- they didn't need to do anything special to take it. The touchback and then two pitch and catches like I'm playing catch in my backyard. Inexcusable. It's one thing to get beat by an epic play- the music city miracle- or by your own failed execution- wide right- but being let down by such incredible coaching blunders... Beyond disappointing. Obviously Sean is not going anywhere. But he cost us and robbed us all of an epic moment. Josh's moment. It would be electric right now and we would be the ***** SB favorites. Instead, we go out with a pathetic whimper adding "13 seconds" to the history of heartbreak. Spot on. The only way Reid gets such criticism is if the roles were exactly reversed. 13 seconds and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: It's a free country. Depends which part of it you live in… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, mannc said: Depends which part of it you live in… The America part. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 hours ago, HOUSE said: OK Jerry, ONE good article in 30 years, Congrats Amen … to this ^^^^^ It’s too easy to play woulda couda shouda …… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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