TheCockSportif Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I can only go with what it's looked like up until this point of the season. The offseason had a weird vibe to it, and I don't think that, even with a winning record, the team can make a playoff run. What a sucky game this was, speaking of the game itself; probably one of the worst I've seen from this team in some time. It makes what seemed like a sky-high ceiling in 2019 and 2020 seem like an eternity ago. Groin out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Buffalo619 said: Not yet. If we lose next week, yes. It’s going to be a frustrating thanksgiving. Hope my family will put up with my yelling and swearing. Lol. I hope they don’t get any yelling and swearing. I think we will all be much happier if they get cheering and smiles. Edited November 21, 2021 by MiltonWaddams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: It's going to come down to the games against the Patriots. They need to win them both. Absolutely disgusting performance by the Bills. The McKenzie fumble was the turning point obviously. Bills need a dome. Disagree on the turning point, it was the 3rd and 10 and we had Wentz sacked and let him get away in the series leading up to that play. Make that tackle and it’s a completely different game. … The same drive where we had them stopped and two penalties on the same play kept the drive alive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, dorquemada said: Yeah, i guess you can take the Pollyanna route here. We keep seeing this same take. Do you believe the Bills need to win again this year, or are they good as is? They keep losing, what, 3 of 4 now? they're in second in the division, and look to be a terrible matchup against the Pats. Oh well, there was always last year! I'm not being Pollyanna. I'm being realistic. The Bills are flawed, clearly. They do not match well against physical teams due to the lack of physicality on both lines. When one or two key pieces are missing, the team falls apart completely. They are not good enough as currently built to win a Super Bowl but at this juncture, I'm not seeing anyone that's running away with either conference. I expect the Bills will make the playoffs, not because they are so good, but the rest of the conference teams are still beatable. They will likely finish with a lower seeding and then we'll see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Wanna hear my most vicious brutal hot take? Tre White is overrated. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Nobody played well except Diggs and Sanders. They both made all the plays that went their way. Oline was also better than expected. The defense and McKenzie’s fumble lost this game. That McKenzie fumble might be the worst play I have ever seen. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, gobills404 said: All I want for Christmas is new offensive and defensive line coaches For what it's worth living in Charlotte, Panthers fans could not contain their excitement when Eric Washington was no longer around. At this point I can agree with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 20 minutes ago, Slack_in_MA said: It’s cliche, but we’re going to find out what this team is made of, if we haven’t already. I think we are a .500 team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I’m hoping for a 5-12 finish and a top 10 pick. I’m hoping for Trevor Penning OT. I haven’t looked to much into the guards in 2022 but it doesn’t look like a good draft class for guards and centers this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 We're not big and physical enough, no more analysis needed. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, Draconator said: Defense needs a rethink. We cannot stop the run against quality teams. I trust that McDermott and Fraiser can mae the necessary adjustments so we can be sucessful against quality teams. TRUST?? I don't trust their game time management. I don't trust their player evaluation. I'm headed to therapy now. I'm having trust issues 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I think what’s also upsetting is that I’m getting numb to the losses like I was during the drought years. It wasn’t supposed to be like this after reaching the the AFC Championship game last year. If there was ever a time to win it all it was this year and the team dropped the ball. They’re 6-4 on a cupcake schedule, I have zero confidence they’ll actually make a run and beat good or balanced teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalonian Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Everything is great; “We are in the hunt.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Just now, Buffalo619 said: He looks slow and over the hill. Not a good day for him today. Just seems like he takes stupid penalties at the worst time and is on the defending end of a big gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 The Bills needed to score on their first drive. They were all set to pick up another first down, and then Cody Ford did his magic, turning a promising drive into an interception. Presto, changeo, the Bills are down 14-0. I said recently the three things that can stop the Bills are injuries, covid, and Cody Ford. All three stopped us today. That, and Josh getting too wired up to hit easy crossers for first downs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Just now, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I’m hoping for a 5-12 finish and a top 10 pick. I’m hoping for Trevor Penning OT. I haven’t looked to much into the guards in 2022 but it doesn’t look like a good draft class for guards and centers this year. They already have 6 wins.... 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Just now, jkeerie said: I'm not being Pollyanna. I'm being realistic. The Bills are flawed, clearly. They do not match well against physical teams due to the lack of physicality on both lines. When one or two key pieces are missing, the team falls apart completely. They are not good enough as currently built to win a Super Bowl but at this juncture, I'm not seeing anyone that's running away with either conference. I expect the Bills will make the playoffs, not because they are so good, but the rest of the conference teams are still beatable. They will likely finish with a lower seeding and then we'll see. Expecting them to win enough games to get a WC spot is Pollyanna-ish. Which of these games do you believe the Bills can win? New Orleans New England (lol) Tampa (lllooollllll) Carolina New England Atlanta New York Out of those I see Atlanta and New York as probable wins. None of the others. winning 8 games will not get us into the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, dorquemada said: KC was their superbowl. People don't want to hear this but the Bills can't beat good teams and they have a run of good teams ahead of them. Let's stop talking superbowl and hope we can squeak into a WC slot. It'll be great to go on the road to Pitt or Indy and get run all over Its not to soon to talk about next year. Let's gut the big contracts on the DL that are getting us nowhere and see if we can get some actual competent OL. Maybe some of the big OL contracts need to be examined too, they're underperforming terribly. It is kind of looking like beating KC was our “Super Bowl” indeed. I will point out, though, that every team has a tipping point where enough starters being out affects them. I think Star and Edmunds on D and 3 backup OLmen on O may be that point for us. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Wanna hear my most vicious brutal hot take? Tre White is overrated. I’ve been saying this for years, he’s good but should not be paid as a top 10 CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Wanna hear my most vicious brutal hot take? Tre White is overrated. McD and Fraiser's defense is just overrated. The whole thing falls apart when you face a guy like Henry, or Taylor. The "bend don't break" approach doesn't work when you get broke up front whenever they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Just now, PaulieYayo said: They already have 6 wins.... Damn it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I’m hoping for a 5-12 finish and a top 10 pick. I’m hoping for Trevor Penning OT. I haven’t looked to much into the guards in 2022 but it doesn’t look like a good draft class for guards and centers this year. Him and Spencer Brown would bring the toughness the offensive line needs. And a physical center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: They don’t have that mongrel in them .. they are too finesse and not enough smash mouth… is there a coach around that can change that? Sure. They are coaching other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, dorquemada said: KC was their superbowl. People don't want to hear this but the Bills can't beat good teams and they have a run of good teams ahead of them. Let's stop talking superbowl and hope we can squeak into a WC slot. It'll be great to go on the road to Pitt or Indy and get run all over Its not to soon to talk about next year. Let's gut the big contracts on the DL that are getting us nowhere and see if we can get some actual competent OL. Maybe some of the big OL contracts need to be examined too, they're underperforming terribly. OL underperforming is putting it lightly. We need to replace Boettger and Ford after the season. Williams can only play RG and that's marginal. And even Dawkins is having a tough year. Fixing the OL has to be the #1 priority. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Wanna hear my most vicious brutal hot take? Tre White is overrated. Ouch, but for all I know you may right, or you may crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallsnative01 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Not making excuses, but not have Star, Edmunds and Brown hurts. The turnovers were killer, especially McKenzies fumble that resulted in a quick TD. The D couldnt stop the run as Indys OL was pushing the DL back 3 yards before Taylor hit the line of scrimmage. We should of focused on the run and make Wentz beat us. Penalties. bad QB play. Drops. This team has issues and they believe too much of their own hype. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It is kind of looking like beating KC was our “Super Bowl” indeed. I will point out, though, that every team has a tipping point where enough starters being out affects them. I think Star and Edmunds on D and 3 backup OLmen on O may be that point for us. I’m here to say what you’re afraid to say. I got you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, dorquemada said: Expecting them to win enough games to get a WC spot is Pollyanna-ish. Which of these games do you believe the Bills can win? New Orleans New England (lol) Tampa (lllooollllll) Carolina New England Atlanta New York Out of those I see Atlanta and New York as probable wins. None of the others. winning 8 games will not get us into the playoffs. I agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I'm beginning to wonder if I want to ruin my Thanksgiving dinner watching this team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Just now, Bruffalo said: McD and Fraiser's defense is just overrated. The whole thing falls apart when you face a guy like Henry, or Taylor. The "bend don't break" approach doesn't work when you get broke up front whenever they want. I’m not sure that it’s terrible, but it badly needs a better space eating defensive tackle. The players that they have been rolling out beside Ed this season just haven’t cut it in the running game. Someone needs to take up two blockers and push that line back. Perhaps the biggest issue is that Beane hasn’t addressed that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Today reinforced what I knew -- we ain't all that. We are a soft team that cannot run or stop the run. And like it or not, that's how you win games. Forget about the #1 seed, forget about the division IMO, and it's a long shot for the wild card with losses to Pittsburgh, Titans and Indy. We are soft and easily pushed around. And if you didn't like today, you're going to hate losing two to the Pats, because thay can run, stop the run and play methodical end of season tough football. We were built to beat KC. Mission accomplished. But now every team with real D and O lines will slap us around. So that's why I didn't watch today. Went deer hunting and knew we'd get our asses kicked-- and we did. Time to rebuild the trenches and hope for a better outcome next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I really wish our offense was different. I’m starting to really not like Dabol. This should be an under center, play action heavy, big formation efficient on time offense. To often we bail on it and just go shot gun spread non stop. Singletary should be getting 80% of the snaps. Moss is so slow. The first 8 or 9 plays of this game were great until we got a penalty. Then we just bailed on it and went right back to the garbage that has been figured out. If Josh isn’t on, we have no chance. I hate that. At least the 2019 Offense was an attempt at sustainable balance. That team didn’t have extreme talent on offense but I loved the way the games were called. Josh is at his best with 250 passing yards and 2 tds and 50 rushing yards and a Td. Stop trying to throw from the spread every down. More 2014 Cam Newton and less 2015 Drew Brees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, CSBill said: Ouch, but for all I know you may right, or you may crazy He's still Top-10, but he's not the super elite Darrell Revis-level player some say he is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) Catastrophe! DOOM! DOOOOOOOMMM! My god it's a bade loss and maybe we don't go to the Superbowl this year. So what. Edited November 21, 2021 by Coffeesforclosers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: Why are our Bills so bad in Buffalo weather?? This game was pretty much over by the time it started raining. The rain and wind was just the icing on the cake 9 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: Why are our Bills so bad in Buffalo weather?? This game was pretty much over by the time it started raining. The rain and wind was just the icing on the cake 9 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: Why are our Bills so bad in Buffalo weather?? This game was pretty much over by the time it started raining. The rain and wind was just the icing on the cake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Governor said: I’m here to say what you’re afraid to say. I got you. I will speak for myself, I thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Tin foil hat people! If only Tre White weren't so overrated we win today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I know our defense got destroyed today, so is it weird that I’m more confused by the offense? That was a historically bad defensive performance, but regardless, I want to see more out of Josh. I’m as big of a fan as the next guy, but he’s our future. The defense can always be worked on and refined. I want to see more elite consistency from Allen at this point. I gave him a pass for the Jaguars debacle, but I’d like to see fewer bad games. Offense did well, and the scheme was sound. Just some bad execution mistakes at really bad times (3rd down drops, penalties, fumble). If there is a complaint, it’s that Josh could and should take more what the defense is giving him. He could have had Beasley for 6-yard passes any time he wanted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It is kind of looking like beating KC was our “Super Bowl” indeed. I will point out, though, that every team has a tipping point where enough starters being out affects them. I think Star and Edmunds on D and 3 backup OLmen on O may be that point for us. Nope. Pittsburgh, Titans and Indy. Big and tough teams that know how to beat soft teams and that's what we are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, dorquemada said: Expecting them to win enough games to get a WC spot is Pollyanna-ish. Which of these games do you believe the Bills can win? New Orleans New England (lol) Tampa (lllooollllll) Carolina New England Atlanta New York Out of those I see Atlanta and New York as probable wins. None of the others. winning 8 games will not get us into the playoffs. I agree with Atlanta and New York. I also believe we can beat Tampa (yes....they are not a physical team and their Defense is not great this year), I believe we can beat the Panthers, and I expect us to split with the Patriots. This all presupposes we get players back from injury and covid reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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