Will the WFT game sell out despite new jab policy?

[SCBills]

We're currently the only AFCE team that has to deal with this, correct?

[CountDorkula]

6 minutes ago, SCBills said:

We're currently the only AFCE team that has to deal with this, correct?

Yeap, Bills are screwed, Super Bowl hopes dashed. How will they ever deal with the Repercussion of 1% refund that they will just turn around and sell. 

[SCBills]

10 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

Yeap, Bills are screwed, Super Bowl hopes dashed. How will they ever deal with the Repercussion of 1% refund that they will just turn around and sell. 

 

More along the lines of this just sucks for our fans, especially those who have had covid and recovered.  Most passionate fanbase in the league, yet only team in the division currently dealing with this.  I'm sure there will be quite a few tickets sold on the secondary market, and let's all hope it's vaxxed Bills fans buying them. 

 

If anything, the Jets game at MetLife will be a complete takeover by Bills fans making the drive... likely more than usual should they not go the route of Erie County. 

 

Edited September 22, 2021 by SCBills

[eball]

People thinking the vaccination policy will suddenly go away next year are kidding themselves.  This policy is going to be in place until the number of Covid hospitalizations of UN-vaccinated individuals falls significantly, and nobody can predict when that will occur unless more and more folks get the jab.

[MAJBobby]

Based on looking at Ticket Master - roughly 1500 tickets there, and then StubHub looks like roughly 2500 there, but some of those COULD be the same seat listed in both locations.  

 

So short answer it is already Sold Out.

[Buffalo03]

It's on TV anyway. Who cares?

[BuffaloBillyG]

39 minutes ago, eball said:

People thinking the vaccination policy will suddenly go away next year are kidding themselves.  This policy is going to be in place until the number of Covid hospitalizations of UN-vaccinated individuals falls significantly, and nobody can predict when that will occur unless more and more folks get the jab.

With the way hard lines have been drawn in the sand by those not getting the vax COVID and COVID regulations are pretty much here to stay. Even if the numbers drop I believe there would be a time where the restrictions stay in place to keep numbers lower rather than ease restrictions for a few months and re-up them. Bottom line, wanna go to a game now or in the future? Get the shot.

[r00tabaga]

4 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said:

With the way hard lines have been drawn in the sand by those not getting the vax COVID and COVID regulations are pretty much here to stay. Even if the numbers drop I believe there would be a time where the restrictions stay in place to keep numbers lower rather than ease restrictions for a few months and re-up them. Bottom line, wanna go to a game now or in the future? Get the shot.

Exactly this. ☝️

 

People who aren't getting jab'd obviously prioritize other things more than football and have already conceded concerts, foosball gms & in some cases even their jobs. I know several young women who plan to have families and know the risks associated with the jab and can just watch the Bills kick ass at home.

 

Go Bills

 

 

[CountDorkula]

53 minutes ago, eball said:

People thinking the vaccination policy will suddenly go away next year are kidding themselves.  This policy is going to be in place until the number of Covid hospitalizations of UN-vaccinated individuals falls significantly, and nobody can predict when that will occur unless more and more folks get the jab.

Yea but im very careful about what i put in my body.

 

Gets drunk at 10AM on a Sunday, eats 5 hot dogs, some sausage, and food that was cooked on the hood of a car. 

[r00tabaga]

7 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

Yea but im very careful about what i put in my body.

 

Gets drunk at 10AM on a Sunday, eats 5 hot dogs, some sausage, and food that was cooked on the hood of a car. 

So that's how you got your username,.....

 

derailing football conversations one post at a time

 

 

Edited September 22, 2021 by r00tabaga

[DrDawkinstein]

Erie County is 65% vaccinated (NYS 70%).

 

That is 2 vaccinated people for every unvaccinated person.

 

That means there are at least 1400 fans waiting to replace those 700 (if not more like 14,000).

 

The ideas that there are equal "sides" to this, and that this policy is affecting a lot of people, and that the Bills will have trouble filling the stands, is laughable.

[May Day 10]

I went online to buy season tickets (already have some, but would love to add a pair).

 

A rep called me back and offered to put me on a wait list for possibly 2022 if any become available.

 

I guess those 750 season tickets are long gone.  

[SCBills]

6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Erie County is 65% vaccinated (NYS 70%).

 

That is 2 vaccinated people for every unvaccinated person.

 

That means there are at least 1400 fans waiting to replace those 700 (if not more like 14,000).

 

The ideas that there are equal "sides" to this, and that this policy is affecting a lot of people, and that the Bills will have trouble filling the stands, is laughable.

I don’t think the Bills will have any trouble filling the stands… I’m just hoping it’s Bills fans buying the tickets that unvaxxed season ticket holders are selling on the secondary market.  
 

 

[GottaRun]

14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Erie County is 65% vaccinated (NYS 70%).

 

That is 2 vaccinated people for every unvaccinated person.

 

That means there are at least 1400 fans waiting to replace those 700 (if not more like 14,000).

 

The ideas that there are equal "sides" to this, and that this policy is affecting a lot of people, and that the Bills will have trouble filling the stands, is laughable.

74.3% in the 18+ population (NYS) and that's the majority of the age group that goes to games. 
These games are basically sold out, we're really talking about the resale market at this point... probably until December/January games and they don't usually sell out.

Edited September 22, 2021 by driddles

[BuffaloBaumer]

minus 4 here. 1st game I will have missed in over 15 years. Antibodies, natural immunity....I guess none of it matters. Just let go of my Sabres season tickets and will be reselling Bills tix. So nice for an original season ticket holder to be backed into a corner.

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

And as I've mentioned previously, the WNY/NYS area is so far ahead of the vaccination rates of our opponents, it is unlikely out-of-town fans will be clamoring to attend games.

 

I doubt fans from Texas, Florida, Georgia, and Carolina are saying "Oh! A Vaccination mandate! Now I'll go to the game!"

 

I can confirm that myself, being in one of those states, is obviously not coming up for a Bills game this year... but I'm more concerned about WFT, NE fans, glad we got Pittsburgh out of the way.  I'd agree that most of the teams we play at home don't really have much of following to begin with, let alone dealing with all this. 

[r00tabaga]

7 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

minus 4 here. 1st game I will have missed in over 15 years. Antibodies, natural immunity....I guess none of it matters. Just let go of my Sabres season tickets and will be reselling Bills tix. So nice for an original season ticket holder to be backed into a corner.

Sorry man. People think that there's only 700 tickets they're not considering all the season ticket holders that aren't coming forward selling their tickets. The NFL is the biggest show in the world and to think that people from across the country won't come here is ludicrous to me. Especially Buffalo, ground zero bills Mafia.

 

Best of luck selling your tickets and even better health to you sir ✌️

[SCBills]

6 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said:

If there was only something these fans could do 🤔

 

I am one of these fans.  I don't live in Buffalo, and will be able to see them play teams down south by me, but I'd like to fly up for a weekend and that clearly isn't happening now.  

 

I just had covid 3 weeks ago.  I don't see it as necessary, or wise, to vaccinate myself simply because my football teams county demands I do so to watch them play at Highmark.  
 

 

 

 

Edited September 22, 2021 by SCBills

[DrDawkinstein]

8 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

I can confirm that myself, being in one of those states, is obviously not coming up for a Bills game this year... but I'm more concerned about WFT, NE fans, glad we got Pittsburgh out of the way.  I'd agree that most of the teams we play at home don't really have much of following to begin with, let alone dealing with all this. 

 

And I'll be travelling from GA to fully enjoy the game Sunday!

Well as much as I can without (future Hall of Famer) Ryan Fitzpatrick playing....

 

 

Edited September 22, 2021 by DrDawkinstein

[SCBills]

6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

And I'll be travelling from GA to fully enjoy the game Sunday!

Well as much as I can without (future Hall of Famer) Ryan Fitzpatrick playing....

 

 

 

GA here too (Buckhead) - Will be heading on down to Jacksonville in a few weeks. 

[BADOLBILZ]

12 minutes ago, r00tabaga said:

Sorry man. People think that there's only 700 tickets they're not considering all the season ticket holders that aren't coming forward selling their tickets. The NFL is the biggest show in the world and to think that people from across the country won't come here is ludicrous to me. Especially Buffalo, ground zero bills Mafia.

 

Best of luck selling your tickets and even better health to you sir ✌️

 

The NFL is the biggest TV show in North America........not the biggest show or hottest ticket in the world.   Going to games is a different story.....general attendance at NFL games had been in decline across the league for years prior to the pandemic.   And it's become a relatively small amount of the revenue teams generate so a few empty seats isn't the crisis it was decades ago.    The Bills should sell out most if not all games and there will not be much additional foot traffic from out of town fans of other teams.   

[Mango]

I think ticket sales will be fine. It is about 1% of total capacity. I do not know how stadiums split season vs. single game tickets, but google tells me it could be as low as 60%) and as high as 90%. 

Either way it seems maybe 2-3% of  ticket holders are kicking back to the org. 

That said, I am sure there will be some late season games with sub-max attendance, people will shout "VaCcInE mAnDaTeS" and ignore the fact that the Bills didn't even sell out playoff games after going to the previous two Super Bowls. 

[r00tabaga]

3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

The NFL is the biggest TV show in North America........not the biggest show or hottest ticket in the world.   Going to games is a different story.....general attendance at NFL games had been in decline across the league for years prior to the pandemic.   And it's become a relatively small amount of the revenue teams generate so a few empty seats isn't the crisis it was decades ago.    The Bills should sell out most if not all games and there will not be much additional foot traffic from out of town fans of other teams.   

I actually agree w your post but I'm too lazy to go fix my post to replace the word world. 

😂

I still think you'll see "more" rival fans.

We're not the only fan base that travels-

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, r00tabaga said:

I actually agree w your post but I'm too lazy to go fix my post to replace the word world. 

😂

I still think you'll see "more" rival fans.

We're not the only fan base that travels-

 

We're already past the Pittsburgh game. Maybe Pats and Jets fans who usually show up as it is.

 

Who else from our remaining home schedule has fans that travel?

[thebug]

4 minutes ago, r00tabaga said:

I actually agree w your post but I'm too lazy to go fix my post to replace the word world. 

😂

I still think you'll see "more" rival fans.

We're not the only fan base that travels-

You know what deters rival fans? A kick ass team! Nobody wants to fork out a bunch of cash to travel to Buffalo to watch your team get their asses kicked and have to deal with Bills fans!!! 😁 Go Bills!

[RiotAct]

11 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

We're already past the Pittsburgh game. Maybe Pats and Jets fans who usually show up as it is.

 

Who else from our remaining home schedule has fans that travel?

honestly, none. 

[LeGOATski]

Won't matter after they reduce the number of seats in the new stadium, amirite?

 

You see? They don't even want you there...

 

They're just trying to be polite about it.

[Fallsnative01]

14 hours ago, Einstein said:

I wonder how they’re going to prove someone is not 11 or under.

 

I foresee some teenagers donning Spongebob Squarepants t-shirts and changing the pitch of their voice to get into the game. 😁

Great point. Does NYS even provide some type of ID for kids that don't have a drivers license? Like a Sheriffs ID? I am not sure NYS requires kids under 18 to even have an ID. I'm retired Military and our kids aren't issued a GOV Dependent ID now until 12 yrs of age. And here in CO kids can get a Sheriffs ID if they aren't getting a drivers license. 

[Punching Bag]

8 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Won't matter after they reduce the number of seats in the new stadium, amirite?

 

You see? They don't even want you there...

 

They're just trying to be polite about it.

 

That is certainly a possibility.  Likely a large overlap between the anti-vax crown and cheap seat drunk crowd.

[Mr. WEO]

16 hours ago, driddles said:

It's funny, no one wants to talk about the 6,500 Canadian season ticket holders who can't get over the border cause apparently we don't count, but I keep seeing threads pop up on Bills boards about the whopping 700+ who opted out.  700 will be noticed about as much as you noticed the missing 6,500. 

 

They weren't there opening day either----97% seats filled anyway.

 

 

[GottaRun]

25 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

They weren't there opening day either----97% seats filled anyway.

 

 

1.  Opening Day

2. Pittsburgh Steelers and their travelling fanbase

 

Houston will be the interesting game attendance wise.  Not a huge travelling fan base.  Both shots needed.  No Canadians.  3rd Home game and there are already cheap resale tickets out there.  

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, driddles said:

1.  Opening Day

2. Pittsburgh Steelers and their travelling fanbase

 

Houston will be the interesting game attendance wise.  Not a huge travelling fan base.  Both shots needed.  No Canadians.  3rd Home game and there are already cheap resale tickets out there.  

so the stadium will be at least those 6500 short of full?

[Just Jack]

4 hours ago, Fallsnative01 said:

Great point. Does NYS even provide some type of ID for kids that don't have a drivers license? Like a Sheriffs ID? 

 

You can get a non-drivers ID through the DMV....

 

https://dmv.ny.gov/id-card/get-non-driver-id-card-ndid

 

[GottaRun]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

so the stadium will be at least those 6500 short of full?

Depends if people can resell their seats.  I haven't been able to sell mine for that one and I'm seeing a lot of posts popping up with people trying to sell.  Usually lowering prices works but seats are already down to the $70 range on the ticket exchange.  Pretty sad if tickets won't move for an October home game at that price.

[Einstein]

7 hours ago, Fallsnative01 said:

Great point. Does NYS even provide some type of ID for kids that don't have a drivers license? Like a Sheriffs ID? I am not sure NYS requires kids under 18 to even have an ID. I'm retired Military and our kids aren't issued a GOV Dependent ID now until 12 yrs of age. And here in CO kids can get a Sheriffs ID if they aren't getting a drivers license. 

 

Im sure there is some way for kids to get an ID but I don’t know any kids that have one.

 

I’m guessing that they’re going to let in anyone (within reason) that says they’re 11 or younger.

 

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Edited September 23, 2021 by Einstein

[Don Otreply]

10 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Erie County is 65% vaccinated (NYS 70%).

 

That is 2 vaccinated people for every unvaccinated person.

 

That means there are at least 1400 fans waiting to replace those 700 (if not more like 14,000).

 

The ideas that there are equal "sides" to this, and that this policy is affecting a lot of people, and that the Bills will have trouble filling the stands, is laughable.

Agree, the Bills organization have already done their homework, and know full well this policy/rule will have virtually no negative effect on their bottom line, those that “persist” otherwise, will just have to get used to not going to the games for the next couple of years. That said, Man I hope our guys put a beating on the nameless team!!

 

Go Bills!!!

[Boatdrinks]

3 hours ago, driddles said:

Depends if people can resell their seats.  I haven't been able to sell mine for that one and I'm seeing a lot of posts popping up with people trying to sell.  Usually lowering prices works but seats are already down to the $70 range on the ticket exchange.  Pretty sad if tickets won't move for an October home game at that price.

A somewhat boring opponent ( they don’t even have an actual name ) and a good chance for rainy weather is going to depress ticket sales in an uncovered stadium. Lots of tickets on the market will lead to more last minute type sales as well. 

[r00tabaga]

2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Was it sold out before the announcement?

I don't believe ANY game was sold out this year. I could be wrong but yeah ...

Crazy

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

12 minutes ago, r00tabaga said:

Annnnnd still not sold out.

 

On Friday.

 

Highest expectations in 25 years.

 

 

 

😂

 

And this doesn't include the secondary market tickets.... I know of several people that are desperately trying to sell their tickets and'll have to eat em.

 

A negative test would've sufficed. Plus it's technically safer than untested vax'd fans.

 

Go BILLS 😜

The US border is still closed to Canadians.  

[WotAGuy]

3 minutes ago, Beast said:

 

I mean, before you put up your silly laughing emoji's, care to start naming off teams that would sell out their games when that team can't have spectators anywhere from north of their city?

Niagara County says hello!