newcam2012 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Success said: One thing no one talks about from that KC game: 4 key Bills receivers all had significant injuries. Diggs had an oblique injury, Beasley had a broken leg, Davis had a bad ankle from the week before and Brown had a bad knee. And you could see it on the field - Romo even commented the the WR's never got any separation. They showed a few long-view shots where the receivers were blanketed, which rarely happened all season. Allen was running for his life. That had nothing to do with the wr. We couldn't run the ball. We couldn't stop them. Nothing to do with Wr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillies said: At least we didn't lose a divisional game, like NE. But Mia is all alone in 1st place with Tua...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Allen was running for his life. That had nothing to do with the wr. We couldn't run the ball. We couldn't stop them. Nothing to do with Wr I mean, I'm not even sure how to respond to that. When no receivers are open, of course a QB is going to have to scramble more. That changed the whole game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Success said: I mean, I'm not even sure how to respond to that. When no receivers are open, of course a QB is going to have to scramble more. That changed the whole game. There were open guys, they just were not 30 yards downfield where Allen and Daboll wanted to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 "He knows this, it will be corrected" I'm not sure I agree with Daboll will make adjustments. The Bills OC looks increasingly rigid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Fallsnative01 said: Thank you Foreboding for saying this, I needed to be reminded its only one game AND WE TOTALLY GOT HANDLED AT OUR STADIUM, IN THE SEASON OPENER AGAINST A DIVISION OPPONENT! I'm sorry, I might be over-reacting to the fact THAT OUR COACHING STAFF KEPT TALKING ABOUT KEEPING THE HYPE DOWN AND NOT TO BE READING THE PRESS CLIPINGS ABOUT HOW THE BILLS ARE ELITE AND SUPPOSED TO WIN THE SUPER BOWL AND THATS WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED YESTERDAY WHEN THE BILLS TOOK A DUMP AT HOME! Sorry, I keep getting upset about the loss. I am calmed down....for now. Foreboding premise is not correct. I don't think anyone is saying the sky is falling or panicking. It's called constructive criticism which often here isn't warranted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: DON’T TELL ME TO CALM DOWN Uncle Hulka said it best with his big toe. I know it’s silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: no one is panicking. I think some are wondering how we are a "better" team this year (what is needed to remain competitive in the NFL), when we did nothing with our suspect OL, or CB2 in the offseason, besides draft a few players later in the draft. Hopefully there is some in-season adjustment that can be made to the OL. The "it was the Steelers" is not much comfort when: (a) KC destroyed our OL, and (b) there are other great defenses in the NFL waiting to feast on this OL. In terms of Wallace, I'm generally a fan, but he has terrible games like yesterday from time to time. I think we need a more reliable game in and game out CB2. Again, not panicking, but discussing. Very good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Miami should be fun. How about 7-0 Allen. No one rooting for you so no reason to get amped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 55 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: It’s much different this time. We allocated most of our allotted cap to a perceived top 5 QB. Which means if Allen doesn’t show up or if coaching is truly handicapping him, then it will be difficult for us to bring in enough elite talent to maintain super bowl contenders. I think Allen is elite, but something seems amiss vs elite teams. Elite players shine vs elite opposition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Didn’t you hear we’re not supposed to lose any games this year What? I thought that was Tampa Bay? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 It’s only game one, it will serve as a wake up call to our team, imo Poor execution accompanied by some questionable play calls on top of an offense that was rusty and out of sync for in game situations is what brought this about, as well hardly any preseason game reps didn’t do us any favors, live and learn to fight another day. Oh, and you BD, learn to integrate the run game properly, Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 48 minutes ago, Success said: I mean, I'm not even sure how to respond to that. When no receivers are open, of course a QB is going to have to scramble more. That changed the whole game. The wr had 1.5 seconds to get open. You are focusing on the wrong deficiency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, BuffaloBillies said: At least we didn't lose a divisional game, like NE. Don't you threaten us with a good time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Didn’t you hear we’re not supposed to lose any games this year I get the sarcasm. For many of us, it's the way we lost. Many of the same deficiencies were exposed. No need to rehash them. To boot, the bills were at home on opening day. Imho, the whole team including the coaches deserve the criticism. It's ok to criticize right? The offense and their game plan sucked. IThe defense under preformed in the second half. We caught the Steelers offense at a great time. Inexperienced rookie RB, bad Oline, Ben the road, and new offensive coordinator. This was a game the Bills should have won. The Bills were outcoached and outplayed. It's a long season and I believe the Bills will.bounce back. The AFC is pretty weak as well. However, there is plenty to be concerned about. Glossing if over by saying the Bills weren't supposed to lose doesn't add much value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 If you're a longtime follower of this message board, and I imagine any other board, you'll see "we were exposed" and "everyone, calm down" posts after every bad loss following hype. We win if: That punt hadn't been blocked And ... Josh connects with Emmanuel Sanders You can also say the same in reverse about any close win, of which we had plenty last year. But does anyone believe last year was hype? It wasn't. Our biggest problem last year was D line, which performed yesterday. Our team got better. Yesterday, Allen was off, Daboll for whatever reason didn't call enough runs, our line was pushed around a bit by a very good defense, and the Steelers benefited from a bad holding call or two. Willing to bet money they rebound next week with a more diverse attack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Success said: I mean, I'm not even sure how to respond to that. When no receivers are open, of course a QB is going to have to scramble more. That changed the whole game. The old injury excuse never sits well with me. Imho, the Bills didn't lose the game due to injuried WRs. They lost because KC was a significallyly better team. Frankly, it wasn't even close. If they meet again, I suspect a similar outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: I get the sarcasm. For many of us, it's the way we lost. Many of the same deficiencies were exposed. No need to rehash them. To boot, the bills were at home on opening day. Imho, the whole team including the coaches deserve the criticism. It's ok to criticize right? The offense and their game plan sucked. IThe defense under preformed in the second half. We caught the Steelers offense at a great time. Inexperienced rookie RB, bad Oline, Ben the road, and new offensive coordinator. This was a game the Bills should have won. The Bills were outcoached and outplayed. It's a long season and I believe the Bills will.bounce back. The AFC is pretty weak as well. However, there is plenty to be concerned about. Glossing if over by saying the Bills weren't supposed to lose doesn't add much value. you've also made some absurd comments. the bills were exposed in the playoffs last year even though they were a game away from the super bowl? the bills can only beat average teams and not playoff contenders? if you're going to be critical, at least be intelligent about it. people are far too emotional about this loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) Try telling my wife to calm down, tough guy. Go ahead. I dare you. Say it to her. Edited September 13, 2021 by Coach Tuesday 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Just in Atlanta said: If you're a longtime follower of this message board, and I imagine any other board, you'll see "we were exposed" and "everyone, calm down" posts after every bad loss following hype. We win if: That punt hadn't been blocked And ... Josh connects with Emmanuel Sanders You can also say the same in reverse about any close win, of which we had plenty last year. But does anyone believe last year was hype? It wasn't. Our biggest problem last year was D line, which performed yesterday. Our team got better. Yesterday, Allen was off, Daboll for whatever reason didn't call enough runs, our line was pushed around a bit by a very good defense, and the Steelers benefited from a bad holding call or two. Willing to bet money they rebound next week with a more diverse attack. Hope you are right. I remain skeptical that we are a better team. Especially after yesterday. I have some concerns about whether Allen can duplicate or better his phenomenonal last year's performance. 5 minutes ago, teef said: you've also made some absurd comments. the bills were exposed in the playoffs last year even though they were a game away from the super bowl? the bills can only beat average teams and not playoff contenders? if you're going to be critical, at least be intelligent about it. people are far too emotional about this loss. Your taking what I said out of context. I'll just leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: The old injury excuse never sits well with me. Imho, the Bills didn't lose the game due to injuried WRs. They lost because KC was a significallyly better team. Frankly, it wasn't even close. If they meet again, I suspect a similar outcome. It's not really an excuse. An entire unit of the offense was hurt. It's just a fact. I'm not going to be all "ssssshhhhh" about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Success said: One thing no one talks about from that KC game: 4 key Bills receivers all had significant injuries. Diggs had an oblique injury, Beasley had a broken leg, Davis had a bad ankle from the week before and Brown had a bad knee. And you could see it on the field - Romo even commented the the WR's never got any separation. They showed a few long-view shots where the receivers were blanketed, which rarely happened all season. Everyone here talked about that...over and over. Yet none of those plays O-line. And all were healthy yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, newcam2012 said: I get the sarcasm. For many of us, it's the way we lost. Many of the same deficiencies were exposed. No need to rehash them. To boot, the bills were at home on opening day. Imho, the whole team including the coaches deserve the criticism. It's ok to criticize right? The offense and their game plan sucked. IThe defense under preformed in the second half. We caught the Steelers offense at a great time. Inexperienced rookie RB, bad Oline, Ben the road, and new offensive coordinator. This was a game the Bills should have won. The Bills were outcoached and outplayed. It's a long season and I believe the Bills will.bounce back. The AFC is pretty weak as well. However, there is plenty to be concerned about. Glossing if over by saying the Bills weren't supposed to lose doesn't add much value. Of course it is ok to criticize.....have have my own and have already stated them......for.....this.....game We have people on this board making general sweeping statements that are frankly.....just ignorant that is my problem with all of this....just a few I have heard - McD sucks and is the weak link of this team - Allen has reverted back his rookie form - Deboll has always sucked - Gabe Davis should be getting more targets then Stephon Diggs Yes....people really said these things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 5 hours ago, YattaOkasan said: Allen wasn't very good against Indy? What were you watching? I thought he was the only reason we were in the game let alone won it. Our defense got run over when we had a 2 score lead in the 4th. Yeah, I feel like this defense se is better suited for run stopping. I think the phins are gone get smacked next week with undersized tua. 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Of course it is ok to criticize.....have have my own and have already stated them......for.....this.....game We have people on this board making general sweeping statements that are frankly.....just ignorant that is my problem with all of this....just a few I have heard - McD sucks and is the weak link of this team - Allen has reverted back his rookie form - Deboll has always sucked - Gabe Davis should be getting more targets then Stephon Diggs Yes....people really said these things Exactly. "Sky is falling" crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Tbh this is the calmest I’ve seen this place after a loss. Stupid thread title 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Tbh this is the calmest I’ve seen this place after a loss. Stupid thread title I'm calm, I've seen the Bills lose before. While there is some weird takes going on, I've seen mostly rational constructive criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Of course it is ok to criticize.....have have my own and have already stated them......for.....this.....game We have people on this board making general sweeping statements that are frankly.....just ignorant that is my problem with all of this....just a few I have heard - McD sucks and is the weak link of this team - Allen has reverted back his rookie form - Deboll has always sucked - Gabe Davis should be getting more targets then Stephon Diggs Yes....people really said these things Did they actually say that or is that your interpretation? Could "they" have said or meant: - McD sucked yesterday - Allen did revert back to his rookie form yesterday - Daboll did suck yesterday - Gabe deserves more targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Did they actually say that or is that your interpretation? Could "they" have said or meant: - McD sucked yesterday - Allen did revert back to his rookie form yesterday - Daboll did suck yesterday - Gabe deserves more targets. By sweeping statements I mean not for the game over as in for ever I’m not twisting the words I’m stating them how they were said 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 The R-E-L-A-X post. I wouldn't know when to bring in the last tomatoes of the season without it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 6 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I said it all offseason - Pittsburgh in Week 1 was a scary matchup. The wheels fall off for them and Ben about halfway through the season consistently the past few years. But the first half of the season (especially the first few games) they're generally a monster. We couldn't make mistakes or be poorly coached if we expected to win and we did both. Thankfully, it's just one game. If we don't pick up the next two games then it's time to panic. I was saying the exact same thing the weeks leading up to the matchup. People were acting like the Bills were going to destroy a 12-4 team who won their division because they got demolished in the Browns playoff game. That defense is serious over there in Pittsburgh. Season openers are ALWAYS unpredictable, remember when the Bills beat the Pats 31-0 only to go 5-11 and lose to them later in the season? The Bills have a great chance to turn in around in the next few weeks w/ a soft schedule so hopefully they work out the kinks and get back to business. Minus the Sanders drop and the blocked punt and we could've easily be on the other side of the W-L column. I'm not panicking at ALL. I'm just a little disappointed because it was a very winnable game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 41 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: - Allen did revert back to his rookie form yesterday I disagree. Against an elite defense the Allen of 2018 would have likely had less then half the yards and two or more INT's facing that level of pressure. Allen did not play a great game but it's an exaggeration to suggest he was playing anywhere near his 2018 level. Think back to 2018 when the Bills played an elite D in Green Bay. Allen was 16/33 for 151 yards and 2 INT's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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US Egg Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 The Bills didn't look good offensively, as anticipated, in part, because of last years stellar offensive prowess. Few expected such a dismal offensive showing yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 10 hours ago, foreboding said: Allen did not take what was available, he looked for big plays at the expense of sure, underneath patterns. He knows this, it will be corrected. I think Daboll's game plan reflected the same attitude. A bit foolish and haughty. Oh, so you are allowed to analyze the game, but everyone else needs to calm down. Got it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Try telling my wife to calm down, tough guy. Go ahead. I dare you. Say it to her. Calm Down Wife! There I said it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 8 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said: I disagree. Against an elite defense the Allen of 2018 would have likely had less then half the yards and two or more INT's facing that level of pressure. Allen did not play a great game but it's an exaggeration to suggest he was playing anywhere near his 2018 level. Think back to 2018 when the Bills played an elite D in Green Bay. Allen was 16/33 for 151 yards and 2 INT's. I hear what you are saying. It's a matter of perception. I stand by my original comment. In fact, while watching the game by myself, I said OMG he's playing like rookie. I saw him throw off his back foot numerous times, threw into double and triple coverage, lacked field vision, inaccurate on long and short throws, etc...I never felt like he was in command and playing with confidence. His body language seemed less then inspiring. I didn't see the fire, leadership, or passion. It was clear he was off and wasn't playing well. Sure the Pitt defense had a lot to do with it and its only one game. I'm expecting a better Josh this Sunday. Hoping he doesn't look like a rookie again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Maybe it’s because I’m in my early 60’s now, and maybe the 20 years of sucking had an effect on me, but I no longer get upset when they lose, or proclaim SB when they win a game. In fact, when the Steelers blocked the punt, my first reaction…”Billsy”, then I chuckled and shook my head. That being said, I still watch them every week, and wait patiently for “just one in my lifetime”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, BTB said: Maybe it’s because I’m in my early 60’s now, and maybe the 20 years of sucking had an effect on me, but I no longer get upset when they lose, or proclaim SB when they win a game. In fact, when the Steelers blocked the punt, my first reaction…”Billsy”, then I chuckled and shook my head. That being said, I still watch them every week, and wait patiently for “just one in my lifetime”. So basically, watching the Bills all your life has beaten the emotion out of you.😄 It's kinda like getting used to the wife's bitching over a lifetime of marriage. You just get numb to it, waiting for your opportunity to put that pillow over her face while......😄 The one good thing coming out of this loss is that perhaps the kids sitting around me in the stands will stop chanting MVP for Josh Allen for a few more games. Hasn't even won a regular season game yet and people were already chanting MVP. Gee, I wonder why a 25 year old quarterback would feel so much pressure in a home game. Wish I was as stoic as you about the losses, but every year I get a little better at it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 It’s all about how they adjust this week. Coaching is about preparation and adjustment. Let’s see how they respond to Sunday’s gut check. Remember, the first quarter of the season is about figuring out what kind of team you’ve got. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 19 hours ago, foreboding said: The sky is not falling, our players do not all of a sudden suck. Bills will now step back and be the underdog for a few weeks, this is not a bad thing. A good dose of humility will inspire these guys to work their collective tails off. I have said in other threads responding to people saying (cringe) "calm down". This is the fourth game in a row which our O has been limited. Only improvement since playoffs was in the D. This is not just one game. Its the fourth. In. A row. That's a fact. Why again should we be calm besides your expectations which are only projections? It's entirely okay to be a bit nervous until we prove that the O will come up to 2020 regular season form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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