Draconator Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Oh boy. 😟 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 this is awesome, but what does it mean? Can you bet regardless of the state you are in, only in-stadium, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: this is awesome, but what does it mean? Can you bet regardless of the state you are in, only in-stadium, etc? Don't worry. The NFL will find a way to get your money, one way or the other. 1 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Maybe this’ll somehow stave off advertisements on jerseys for another few years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 This will help pay for that Josh Allen extension.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) harken back to the old days when the weekly "card" featuring the teams and the point spread was all there was to betting, it made you feel like you part of the network, the underground, and some would say what you are doing is illegal and you could be arrested, esp if you win, so dont say where you got the card from..and a tie meant you lost...the daze of mis-spent youth and a few lost dollars Edited August 30, 2021 by First Round Bust 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpsuit Jim Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 But will Jimmy the Greek make a comeback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I'm not a gambler, so this doesn't affect me (directly) at all. I don't see what the big deal is with allowing gambling OR with advertisements on jerseys. If it generates revenue for the NFL, how is that a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costrovs Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 cool. I don't really have an issue with gambling, as long as it's done responsibly. But I do have an issue with refs/players/coaches throwing games. And we all know it's gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-betting-snapshot-bills-have-perhaps-the-most-enticing-super-bowl-odds-141822002.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Is that BetMGM good for holdem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gugny said: I'm not a gambler, so this doesn't affect me (directly) at all. I don't see what the big deal is with allowing gambling OR with advertisements on jerseys. If it generates revenue for the NFL, how is that a bad thing? That's a shame because you can make good money on people underestimating the Bills. I killed last year. There's an upside to haters doubting Josh Allen. Edited August 30, 2021 by PromoTheRobot 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: this is awesome, but what does it mean? Can you bet regardless of the state you are in, only in-stadium, etc? It’s probably still illegal if you’re in a southern state. 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: That's a shame because you can make good money on people underestimating the Bills. I killed last year. There's an upside to haters doubting Josh Allen. That ship sailed but there will probably be 3 or 4 games that are gimmes for us fans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Governor said: It’s probably still illegal if you’re in a southern state. Or New York. They still haven't approved bids. Edited August 30, 2021 by LeviF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: this is awesome, but what does it mean? Can you bet regardless of the state you are in, only in-stadium, etc? You need to live in a state that allows sports betting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, costrovs said: cool. I don't really have an issue with gambling, as long as it's done responsibly. But I do have an issue with refs/players/coaches throwing games. And we all know it's gonna happen. There has been gambling on the NFL for decades. What in your mind has changed with this news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, LeviF said: Or New York. They still haven't approved bids. I smell stadium funding. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Uh oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 28 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: That's a shame because you can make good money on people underestimating the Bills. I killed last year. There's an upside to haters doubting Josh Allen. Well, find a Jet fan to take advantage of, they always way over estimate what their sad team is capable of. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, CSBill said: Well, find a Jet fan to take advantage of, they always way over estimate what their sad team is capable of. Yeah, I’m in Jets territory and they won’t take that bet. However, they are willing to bet against us with KC when the time comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I'm your huckleberry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costrovs Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, Beast said: There has been gambling on the NFL for decades. What in your mind has changed with this news? Well, sports gambling like this wasn't even really possible 10-15 years ago. Now it's readily available to just about everyone. Gambling on sports using your local bookie, I'm cool with that. Betting on a game on FOX network, using FOX Bet as my 'bookie', no thanks. Seems WAY to easy for FOX to throw a game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, costrovs said: Well, sports gambling like this wasn't even really possible 10-15 years ago. Now it's readily available to just about everyone. Gambling on sports using your local bookie, I'm cool with that. Betting on a game on FOX network, using FOX Bet as my 'bookie', no thanks. Seems WAY to easy for FOX to throw a game. Billions of dollars have been bet, illegally, for many years prior. The same temptations to accept a bribe have always been there for players, coaches, refs, etc. I get what you're saying but the criminal element that you're worried about has been operating for a very long time. Edited August 30, 2021 by Beast 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costrovs Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Beast said: Billions of dollars have been bet, illegally, for many years prior. The same temptations to accept a bribe have always been there for players, coaches, refs, etc. I get what you're saying but the criminal element that you're worried about has been operating for a very long time. Oh I know. A player 'faking' an injury, or a muffed kick is one thing. but a FOX replay camera (or 2) coincidentally not working is a different ball game. It almost seems to take the refs out of the equation.... Edited August 30, 2021 by costrovs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 3 hours ago, costrovs said: cool. I don't really have an issue with gambling, as long as it's done responsibly. But I do have an issue with refs/players/coaches throwing games. And we all know it's gonna happen. Is there such a thing as responsible betting? what? Only if you win? Myself, I'm a responsible smoker.... Dont ask me to splain it.... And I've been known to bet once in a while but I refer to me and brother betting on the Bills as the car of idiots....when we do.... As in.... the car of idiots rides again! is that responsible betting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costrovs Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, billybrew1 said: Is there such a thing as responsible betting? what? Only if you win? Myself, I'm a responsible smoker.... Dont ask me to splain it.... And I've been known to bet once in a while but I refer to me and brother betting on the Bills as the car of idiots....when we do.... As in.... the car of idiots rides again! is that responsible betting? If I had to try to define a responsible gambler, I would say, as long as it's money your ok with losing. But personally, I don't gamble. I haven't put money on any sports game in almost 15 years. Even then, it was only like $10 or $20. And I haven't gone to a casino in 12 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted August 30, 2021 Author Share Posted August 30, 2021 Just now, costrovs said: If I had to try to define a responsible gambler, I would say, as long as it's money your ok with losing. But personally, I don't gamble. I haven't put money on any sports game in almost 15 years. Even then, it was only like $10 or $20. And I haven't gone to a casino in 12 years. My wife and I were in Vegas earlier this year. Casino was open. I thought for half a second of sitting down at the Black Jack table. I asked my wife if she wanted to play some slots. She was like, "nope, I'm good". I was like, "so am I". Didn't even give it a 2nd thought. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Meet the new Vice President of NFL Gambling Debt Collections 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 9 hours ago, Gugny said: I'm not a gambler, so this doesn't affect me (directly) at all. I don't see what the big deal is with allowing gambling OR with advertisements on jerseys. If it generates revenue for the NFL, how is that a bad thing? agree I don’t care about gambling. but ads on jerseys can be/are an eyesore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) I forget most you guys are from NY Here in Jersey I can legally bet, play casino or poker on about 10 different apps. I have a guy from NYC I put in bets for and I get 10% of his winnings per month (if he won that month of course). Takes me 1 min to put in, I figure why not Edited August 31, 2021 by JerseyBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Looking for a little help here - I'm in one of the states that legalized online gambling, and we're getting inundated with promo offers from the big sites - Draft Kings, Caesar's, etc). I usually just do a little fun wagering when I'm in Vegas, but there's free money out there now so I'm ready to take the plunge. Example: Caesar's offer is "Bet up to $5,000 risk free." The small print: place a bet up to 5K. If you win, fine. Cash out. If you lose, we credit your account with the amount of the bet (up to 5K!). You can't cash that out, but you can place new bets and, if they win, cash out then. I'm risk averse on these things. I want to make the best possible series of wagers to come out, say, 3,000 bucks ahead with minimal risk like just losing the vig on the "makeup" bet. Seems like I should take a flyer on the first bet - something that will double my money if I win. Then if I lose I use the 5K credit on a "sure" thing to come as close to even as possible (like betting the favorite in some lopsided college game, then cashing out). Ideas? I'm sticking to football, mostly NFL, but maybe NCAA to cover a losing first wager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: Looking for a little help here - I'm in one of the states that legalized online gambling, and we're getting inundated with promo offers from the big sites - Draft Kings, Caesar's, etc). I usually just do a little fun wagering when I'm in Vegas, but there's free money out there now so I'm ready to take the plunge. Example: Caesar's offer is "Bet up to $5,000 risk free." The small print: place a bet up to 5K. If you win, fine. Cash out. If you lose, we credit your account with the amount of the bet (up to 5K!). You can't cash that out, but you can place new bets and, if they win, cash out then. I'm risk averse on these things. I want to make the best possible series of wagers to come out, say, 3,000 bucks ahead with minimal risk like just losing the vig on the "makeup" bet. Seems like I should take a flyer on the first bet - something that will double my money if I win. Then if I lose I use the 5K credit on a "sure" thing to come as close to even as possible (like betting the favorite in some lopsided college game, then cashing out). Ideas? I'm sticking to football, mostly NFL, but maybe NCAA to cover a losing first wager. "Gambling is a sin." 😇 * The criteria I use to pick winners, you're guddam right it's a sin! 🎯 Edited September 6, 2021 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: Looking for a little help here - I'm in one of the states that legalized online gambling, and we're getting inundated with promo offers from the big sites - Draft Kings, Caesar's, etc). I usually just do a little fun wagering when I'm in Vegas, but there's free money out there now so I'm ready to take the plunge. Example: Caesar's offer is "Bet up to $5,000 risk free." The small print: place a bet up to 5K. If you win, fine. Cash out. If you lose, we credit your account with the amount of the bet (up to 5K!). You can't cash that out, but you can place new bets and, if they win, cash out then. I'd read all fine print and disclaimers around this point "If you lose, we credit your account with the amount of the bet (up to 5K!). You can't cash that out, but you can place new bets and, if they win, cash out then." In the world of this lifelong gambler that is to good to be true and if it is true then get on it. Make sure there is no rule around needing to bet this amount X times over before you can start cashing out, or that the odds on the second bet must be longer than 1.5 - 1 etc... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 On 8/30/2021 at 11:38 AM, RyanC883 said: this is awesome, but what does it mean? Can you bet regardless of the state you are in, only in-stadium, etc? No clue. I can bet here in Jersey , I mainly play poker though. These apps are awesome, if you're into gambling- Poker,casino and sportsbook and tons of promotions I have 2 buddies in NYC that have their own accounts and trust me, I put bets in for them alot because they can't from NY 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, driddles said: I'd read all fine print and disclaimers around this point "If you lose, we credit your account with the amount of the bet (up to 5K!). You can't cash that out, but you can place new bets and, if they win, cash out then." In the world of this lifelong gambler that is to good to be true and if it is true then get on it. Make sure there is no rule around needing to bet this amount X times over before you can start cashing out, or that the odds on the second bet must be longer than 1.5 - 1 etc... That's what I'm reading closely now ... thanks for the advice! I do think they're for real - it's the wild, wild west of online gambling out here in Colorado, with all sites in a race to gain market share - but it'd be really easy to get screwed by the promo restrictions if I'm not careful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Looks like Art Schlicter got out of prison just in time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BUFFALOBART said: What's the over/under for the timeline of the first 'fixed game' scandal? And with the abundance of prop bets there'd be ample opportunity to do it, even with teams ostensibly playing to win. Imagine some latter day Pete Rose in an NFL jersey playing QB and trying to force the ball into the hands of a WR who's just short of 100 yards. Or a long snapper who bet the under making a bad snap on a meaningless PAT. Of course, wagering has always been out there, and I understand that's a big reason why they make teams lineup for the meaningless 0:00 on the clock PAT rather than doing the equivalent of a walk-off home run/touchdown. The NFL dares not mention point spreads (Al Michaels though is famous for hinting broadly about them) but they're always there just under the surface. Edited September 6, 2021 by The Frankish Reich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) Everyone I know has been gambling online for over a decade no matter the states they live in. Hell bodog/bovada has been doin it for 25 years or so by moving website to different country hosts. Guess I thought everyone was already doing it. Edited September 6, 2021 by Lagoon Blues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 On 8/30/2021 at 1:22 PM, LeviF said: Or New York. They still haven't approved bids. I thought the senca casino had a sports betting section and as its technically not under NY jurisdiction as its a sovereign nation with its own laws and rules, any NY laws don't apply unless they have some reciprocal agreement with the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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