unbillievable Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 They could have drafted Tonga. He looked decent in the Bears game. Would have been the next Jasper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Just now, JohnNord said: Levi as CB1is a very scary thought. Yes it is. And it's probably not even as scary as who else is moving up the depth chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, unbillievable said: The biggest weakness is TE, although Hollister might be better. The worst injury loss would be Bass, followed by White. I believe there is a capable backup in every other position. Losing Allen will probably take the team out of Superbowl contention, but Trubisky can keep the team competitive. At first I thought TE, too. But the Bills TE's are marginal at worst, and maybe better if they get the improvement we all hope for. But if one goes down, they don't lose a lot, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Just now, Simon said: Yes it is. And it's probably not even as scary as who else is moving up the depth chart. It’s the old “it can’t get worse than _______” argument….Yes it certainly can!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, JohnNord said: It’s the old “it can’t get worse than _______” argument….Yes it certainly can!!!! As bad as it might be, it can get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Dean said: As bad as it might be, it can get worse. That guy right below you is either using your phone or stole your mouse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: As a position group, TE is still the biggest question mark. DT is probably second but if Star plays well they will be fine. Depth is a challenge agreed but the starters are solid.. Oliver is primed for a breakout year prior to making a decision to pick up his option. Agree the LB unit depth is good and better than it has been in years. I know I'm beating a dead horse, but Edmunds is the single biggest question mark on the team when you consider how critical his position is. You can work around a substandard TE. You can't do that at MLB It is hard for me to Billieve the Bills will be fine on the interior all year. Nearly every team we play is going to try hard to win the flock war and try to keep JA on the sidelines frustrated. Star only will play around one half of the game so that other one-tech has to really step up, so does the other three-tech. Then Milano and Edmunds really have to hit those gaps with authority. I don't know? I hope they're up to it all year..... I wish Harry was healthy. I hope Butler feels it....and can play low and win. Badham looked awesome on the breakdown but can he do it in the regular season? I hope McD, Leslie and the DL coach know what they're doing. Maybe Allen is so good he scores enough to make trying to sit him not really work? Once you're down 21 you really can't play that way.... IDK exactly why, but I think our O is even better than last year. That means we have to be healthier.That Sanders becomes a big cog. That the TE position contributes more. The RBs too. I think I'm in the minority, but I still want Ertz. I think it would help to have a lot of O go thru Ertz resting other key personnel. I rather it be Knox or Hollister, but I doubt their abilities. I think if Hollister goes off, it will be a huge NFL story. That LB's mom was a LB -kind of thing. Josh Allen's TE way back in 2016 is back tearing up the league for the first time in his careeer. 56 minutes ago, Limeaid said: You are not beating a dead horse, you a beating a sack of vegan ground horse meat. Clearly the Bills have a different opinion than you on Edmunds. We'll see how valuable Tre is or isn't at the end of this year. Personally, I think he deserves quite a bit less than the Indy LB.... Hopefully, Edmunds changing my mind this year (and we win a Super Bowl). Quick question. Do you think our current defense overall, whether good or bad, is ultimately linked to the play of the MLB? I do in a way, and don't in a way..... I do because everything in this defense comes thru the MLB. I think if he is having a pro bowl season, So is the defense in a very real way. Thusly, if he is having a terrible year..... But in another way, absolutely not. You could build this D with ten pro bowlers and only a decent MLB and clearly, it would still be very good. Its just a matter of how you look at it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, Simon said: That guy right below you is either using your phone or stole your mouse. 😅 Same thing happened to me the other day with a post. I even edited it to remove the extra posts, but they stuck. Pretty embarrassing when it happens to me. Funny when it happens to someone else! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I think safety belongs on this list. Poyer and Hyde are great together but there's a huge dropoff behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Tribusky VS. Allen - - - In the bears game I saw two plays that were incompletes for Tribusky that I feel would have definitely been TDs with Allen in there..... The plays would have been a complete to Singletary in the endzone and a complete to Davis at around the 8 that would have been a sure TD. And that my friends is a huge difference. Allen eats up TDs like blueberries. Yes, my fiends, we have the best backup QB there is and he might get better, but Josh is king and for good reason. We might have THE best QB in the NFL this season. What I think will determine that is the health of players around Mahomes, Allen and Rogers. PS - I remember fans laughing at me when I said Allen's going to be like Rogers. I saw the improvement. I saw that it would keep going. I saw that we had the GM to make it possible. PS - I think Miami should have made OL a bigger focus this offseason. Sure, they have four deadly weapons now but you need both; the line and the weapons. Beane got the right OC and OL coach and QB coach to boot. Miami's OC, Chan Gailey, retired, and they're are starting all over again. Not a good sign. So.... you have to do it all to create that QB. The QB needs the raw skills and desire and Allen scored a ten at each. Then you need the GM. Then you need the coaches. Then you need the OL. Then you need the skill. Then you have a QB! (Maybe, But Allen scoring a ten in raw skills and desire raised the percentages of developing a franchise QB to good. Who knows how good he'll get? He makes the NFL's best pass rushers look powerless at times. He can hit any spot on the field just about. I think he has the greatest range of possible completions in the NFL. And then if that's not there he can just take off and break a defenses heart. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Utah John said: I think safety belongs on this list. Poyer and Hyde are great together but there's a huge dropoff behind them. Agree. Dean Marlowe did a great job starting when needed and doing other roles when not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 This is why I posted in another thread that I want to watch Brandin Bryant in game tomorrow. Hopefully Harry can get back this season. Teams are going to test us early with the run. I believe that's how Belichick thinks he's going to beat Bills this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 That's it. The Bills are weak everywhere. Cancel the season! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Replacing Duke is their biggest concern. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 CB depth is the "area of most concern" for me. If healthy I've got little issue with Star, Oliver, Harry and Zimmer (and Basham). I think if healthy they'll exceed expectations especially with more production from the ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 I do not think that a big, space-eating defensive tackle has to be the biggest concern. There are a lot of 310+ pound guys around and we can upgrade from butler from the waiver wire, a minor trade and from the 2nd or 3rd round in next year's draft. CB and TE are next years high draft choice targets. We will be picking in the 30,31,32 slot and should be able to get a starter at those positions in the first and second rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 13 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: A link would do wonders for this thread. clicking it does wonders for SI 5 hours ago, without a drought said: Replacing Duke is their biggest concern. Who will be the next marginal player and everyman hero Duke had a good 2 year run though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 10 hours ago, The Dean said: At first I thought TE, too. But the Bills TE's are marginal at worst, and maybe better if they get the improvement we all hope for. But if one goes down, they don't lose a lot, IMO. You need a great TE when your QB has marginal arm strength and can't get it to the WR's. We just need an OK TE that can catch the ball when its thrown to him he doesn't need to be a game breaker but if he turns into one thats great. You only have one football to spread around and Diggs Sanders and Beasley are the preferred targets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, JMF2006 said: You need a great TE when your QB has marginal arm strength and can't get it to the WR's. We just need an OK TE that can catch the ball when its thrown to him he doesn't need to be a game breaker but if he turns into one thats great. You only have one football to spread around and Diggs Sanders and Beasley are the preferred targets I'm with you. I'm far more concerned about the DT room (particularly since two of the three 1-techs appear not to be vaxxed and have to stay away from each other and the third 1-tech has a knee issue). CB appears to be an issue as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 This position has a dark cloud hanging over it. Star is a potential Covid protocols problem. Phillips has a knee injury and Boogie might profile more as an edge guy. That leaves Zimmer and Ankou with Butler, who they were looking to offload. Not my idea of positional strength. If we have problems stopping solid running attacks, Beane's inability to bring in a Dtackle will be the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 16 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: ME: SI biggest weakness, everything I think Albert Breer is the best national NFL writer around right now. 15 hours ago, Simon said: This is going to sound utterly insane, but losing Tre White could be almost as devastating as losing Josh Allen. Agreed. I think corner is their biggest problem given the position’s importance (more important than DE to me) and a near complete lack of depth along with a CB2 who could only start for the Bills because the Bills’ scheme masks his weaknesses. 14 hours ago, Limeaid said: Not for me and I have no subscription, Either: 1. They changed status of article. 2. They have a filter to which says "Simon stay out". NE did get two paragraphs and an automatically playing video. I would say Bills' issue is lack of team cohesion. No, you get three free articles a month. After that, no more. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 20 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: AFC EAST Buffalo Bills DEFENSIVE TACKLE: This was a toss-up for me, a process made no easier given that any person or position named in this space would immediately draw the ire of Bills Mafia. And it makes sense; this is as complete a team as we’ll see in the NFL this year. Linebacker was another option. Either is going to sound nitpicky, but remember that this is a weakness relative to the rest of the team and not necessarily the league. A pairing of Ed Oliver and Star Lotulelei sounds good on paper, and Oliver was actually one of Buffalo’s best defensive players in terms of net yards over average last season, behind only Matt Milano. That said, the unit lacks some punch, finishing 26th in yards per attempt surrendered by opposing running backs (Lotulelei opted out of the 2020 season, and in ’19 the unit was eight spots better in the same category). Buffalo did a majority of its work this offseason on the pass rush, which may have been a way of compensating for a threadbare defensive tackle class in the draft. I feel like guys like Edmunds and especially Ed Oliver would be under way more fire if we didn't have Josh Allen on the team. Fortunately, we don't have to rely on the defense as much to win games so underperforming draft picks aren't getting as much critique as they should. This is the Bill Bellichick effect. In years past, Oliver would be getting roasted by this message board. This is my opinion so take it or leave it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 We're pretty average at DT, but our needs at CB, G and TE far outweigh the need at DT. As usual, the national media gets it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 30, 2021 Author Share Posted August 30, 2021 On 8/27/2021 at 5:42 PM, JohnNord said: This is a reasonable opinion. There’s a huge emphasis on Oliver, Lotulelei and Edmunds to improve the run defense and I’m not confident on their ability to step it up I agree, the one that really has to "show up" is Edmunds. Oliver is pretty much as advertised and Star does a decent job eating space but Edmunds. With the Pats heavy run influence this year with the big O Line and stud rookie RB, they are going to run it down our throats and Belichek in the past has keyed on Edmunds who Belichek can out wit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 On 8/27/2021 at 6:08 PM, vincec said: You can’t have all stars at every position. Even the best teams have weaknesses in the salary cap era. Beane had plenty of chances to upgrade CB2 but bet on Dane Jackson. It didn't pay off. We are really thin at CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Beane had plenty of chances to upgrade CB2 but bet on Dane Jackson. It didn't pay off. We are really thin at CB. We don't know if it paid off or not yet. Jackson and Wallace still competing for CB2. I agree about being a little thin at CB, but can't say Dane Jackson hasn't paid off when it remains to be seen Edited August 30, 2021 by Sheneneh Jenkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Just now, Sheneneh Jenkins said: We don't know if it paid off or not yet. Jackson and Wallace still competing for CB2. I agree being a little thin at CB, but can't say Dane Jackson hasn't paid off. I think that ship has sailed. Wallace is the clear winner and it wasn't close. For the purpose of a SB window this year, Jackson is not much of a comfort behind just a serviceable CB2. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Just now, Green Lightning said: I think that ship has sailed. Wallace is the clear winner and it wasn't close. For the purpose of a SB window this year, Jackson is not much of a comfort behind just a serviceable CB2. Well the Packers game it was said Jackson and Wallace are still competing for CB2. So unless something has changed since Saturday that I somehow missed, I'd say that ship is still at the dock and not quite ready to sail off yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Sports Illustrated ranks up there with the Penny Saver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) On 8/27/2021 at 4:48 PM, Reader said: As our team currently stands, it is TE, right? CB2 is the literal ***** in the armor Edit-huh ok I guess I can see why that phrase needs to be retired Edited August 30, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Well the Packers game it was said Jackson and Wallace are still competing for CB2. So unless something has changed since Saturday that I somehow missed, I'd say that ship is still at the dock and not quite ready to sail off yet. Nah, Wallace on the deck and Jackson is on the dock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Nah, Wallace on the deck and Jackson is on the dock. Where you get that from? Or you just assuming or predicting it? Because Saturday during the game when Beane was interviewing with announcers, he said Dane and Wallace were competing for #2 CB. So are you saying as of Sunday or by this morning the competition is over and Wallace was named? If so, please show me because I must have missed it. Edited August 30, 2021 by Sheneneh Jenkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 31 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Nah, Wallace on the deck and Jackson is on the dock. https://www.al.com/sports/2021/08/bills-cornerback-levi-wallace-in-neck-and-neck-competition-to-keep-starting-spot.html You presented your post as if it was a fact, but kinda looks a little more like your opinion. Which is what I thought because if it was true, I don't think I would have missed something like that. Anyway, bottom line they are still competing for it like I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: https://www.al.com/sports/2021/08/bills-cornerback-levi-wallace-in-neck-and-neck-competition-to-keep-starting-spot.html You presented your post as if it was a fact, but kinda looks a little more like your opinion. Which is what I thought because if it was true, I don't think I would have missed something like that. Anyway, bottom line they are still competing for it like I thought. Watching this team for 50 years. The only thing Jackson is is competing for is a spot on the final 53. If anyone on this board believes he outplayed Wallace I haven't seen it, because he hasn't. Not close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Watching this team for 50 years. The only thing Jackson is is competing for is a spot on the final 53. If anyone on this board believes he outplayed Wallace I haven't seen it, because he hasn't. Not close Apparently it's close enough to still be a competition. You don't know if either has outplayed the other any more than I do. All we can go by is what's reported for the most part. So looks as if coaches disagree with you about it being not close. Otherwise the competition wouldn't be so "close" Edited August 30, 2021 by Sheneneh Jenkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Apparently it's close enough to still be a competition. You don't know if either has outplayed the other any more than I do. All we can go by is what's reported for the most part. So looks as if coaches disagree with you about it being not close. Otherwise the competition wouldn't be so "close" Of course Beane will say that. That's his job. Use you eyes and read what the those who follow and report on the team say. Beane was just praising Bam Johnson a few days ago and now he's gone. That's his job. Wallace is our CB 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Just now, Green Lightning said: Of course Beane will say that. That's his job. Use you eyes and read what the those who follow and report on the team say. Beane was just praising Bam Johnson a few days ago and now he's gone. That's his job. Wallace is our CB 2. Beane wasn't the only one that's saying it. Frazier also, If you even jus skimmed the article I posted that proved you wrong it would help you get a little more insight. Wallace may very well win it, but point is as of now it's still open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Of course Beane will say that. That's his job. Use you eyes and read what the those who follow and report on the team say. Beane was just praising Bam Johnson a few days ago and now he's gone. That's his job. Wallace is our CB 2. I think it's fairly clear that, unless something changes, Wallace is the starter and Jackson is a roster lock. But I'm ASSUMING that based on the information so far, and from what I saw during the preseason game. So it's my (and your) opinion. But it is not official, as of yet. Was that so hard? 9 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Of course Beane will say that. That's his job. Use you eyes and read what the those who follow and report on the team say. Beane was just praising Bam Johnson a few days ago and now he's gone. That's his job. Wallace is our CB 2. I think it's fairly clear that, unless something changes, Wallace is the starter and Jackson is a roster lock. But I'm ASSUMING that based on the information so far, and from what I saw during the preseason game. So it's my (and your) opinion. But it is not official, as of yet. Was that so hard? And as long as I'm spouting assumptions: I think Frazier is saying what he means: Technically it is still a competition. I think for the most part, this serves as motivation. A warning to Wallace that he can't assume he's the guy---and to Jackson, to tell him he has a chance if he really can produce. Motivation and a challenge to both players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 I know TE isn't great, but our passing game is good enough to make it not as big an issue. The DT's on the other hand... that's the biggest weakness because it causes a glaring issue that's extremely detrimental to the entirety of the defense. Teams like the Chiefs and Titans didn't even need to pass. Every run was for huge gains, and kept our offense off the field. You can hide the bad TEs when your passing attack is still so good, but those DT's being unable to stop the run drags the whole defense down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/27/2021 at 4:58 PM, Simon said: This is going to sound utterly insane, but losing Tre White could be almost as devastating as losing Josh Allen. Why would you even type this?!?!?!? Are you crazy??? You know how this works, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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