GunnerBill Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) WE ARE BACK! Despite no popular demand the return of pre-season football after a one year hiatus means the return of Gunner's patented Good Night / Bad Night series as I look at who helped themselves and who hurt themselves as the season approaches. So with no further ado let's get to it... Good Night for... Greg Rousseau - Where else can you start? Let's not go overboard and declare him the second coming of Bruce Smith just yet, but this was a mighty impressive Bills debut for their first round draft selection. Playing his first meaningful football since 2019 Gregory Rousseau demonstrated the skillset that made him too good to pass up with the 30th pick of the draft. He bull rushed fellow rookie Penei Sewell into submission early and cleaned up Jared Goff for a sack and had two other pressures, one on Goff (from the inside) and one where he and AJ Epenesa met at backup Quarterback Tim Boyle in the second quarter. He still has work to do to clean up his technique both with his hand usage and his get off but you can't teach his length and it allows him to win with leverage. Excellent first outing and he is going to be pushing for a starting spot before too long. Devin Singletary - I have been critical of Singletary in the past but he has said publicly that his work this offseason has been on being more decisive at the line and we definitely saw that in his performance last night. No, the run blocking in 2020 was not very good, but too often Devin would be wiggling behind the line for no gain instead of hitting the hole that was there and taking the two or three yards on offer. Last night he was going north and south and then showing the wiggle at the second level to break the bigger runs. That is exactly what he needs to do. With Zack Moss nursing a hamstring Devin took his chance to put the first marker down in the battle to start at tailback. Linebacker depth - Twelve months ago one of my big concerns was depth at linebacker. With Edmunds, Milano and AJ Klein seemingly locked in to the top 3 spots and not playing last night the Bills started Tyrel Dodson, Tyler Matakevich and Andre Smith and all three showed really nicely. Dodson had 3 solo tackles in two series, including a nice one at the line for no gain, Matakevich had two and a pass break up on Goff's first pass and Andre Smith, who played into the second half had 6 solo tackles and was flying around the field. In addition, Joe Giles-Harris, one of their interesting under the radar pick ups this offseason flashed both on defense and special teams. I think the first three took a big step towards the 53 and Giles-Harris is a really interesting practice squad contender. The linebacker who hurt himself was Tyrell Adams who I had pencilled in for a roster spot at the start of camp. He was listed as third string on the depth chart released this week and had one horrendous whiff that won't help his cause last night. Tommy Sweeney - First of all it was a good night for Sweeney just because he was back on the football field after all he has been through. His roster battle is one of the most interesting to me. I think he is clearly the third tight end the question is will the Bills carry three out and out tight ends or be comfortable with two plus Reggie Gilliam? Two catches for 34 yards is hardly winning him a roster spot on its own but coupled with a disappointing night for the depth receivers he might be competing against he definitely took a step forward. Davis Webb - The Bills top two Quarterback spots are settled. Most expect them to keep a third on the practice squad rather than the active roster. Davis Webb put on film some competent NFL Quarterbacking and clearly outplayed Jake Fromm despite Fromm's late bomb to Stevenson which set up the winning field goal. Having watched a few clips of some other teams' backup situations - and watched Tim Boyle be rather uninspiring as the Lions backup I even wondered whether there might be a risk of Webb being signed away to another active roster. Bad Night for... Cornerback depth - Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. We have a problem. I don't know if any of the corners behind our three starters can play. Dane Jackson was all at sea on the outside and Siran Neal (our backup nickel) got spun like a top a couple of times by Amon-Ra St Brown the nippy slot receiver for the Lions. It didn't get much better. Rashad Wildgoose looked out of his depth even against the Lions 3rd string receivers, and their two UDFAs McCloud and Griffin had their struggles too. Cam Lewis seemed to fair a tad better playing as the nickel for much of the second half. I'd like to see him used more on the boundary next week. At the moment he has an open path to the roster. The only play made by a Bills corner all night was made by Levi Wallace. For all his haters he is the clear starter opposite Tre White. It isn't close. This is a spot where I think we desperately need to find an experienced vet for depth. Bobby Hart - Talking of positions where the Bills might need vet help brings me to offensive tackle. Spencer Brown had an up and down night but is pretty much a roster lock. The other backup tackle spot is more of a puzzle. I have been pretty vocal that I think Beane and McDermott will want a veteran option and that was reinforced by Tommy Doyle's struggles in the second half but Bobby Hart struggled all day. He had a holding penalty early and then gave up numerous pressures and a sack late. I suspect the Bills front office will have their eye out for a veteran upgrade but offensive line depth league wide is not great so this is not an easy one to solve. The returners - Isaiah McKenzie and Marquez Stevenson had one solid kick return each but overall this was an uninspiring tie in the battle for the return job. McKenzie lost yards on one punt trying to break one rather than taking what was there and Brandon Powell did nothing with his opportunities. McKenzie remains the man in possession but he hasn't put this battle to bed just yet. Carlos "Boogie" Basham - A struggle for Boogie. My concern with him coming out and the reason he had a third round grade on my board was that I didn't see a way for him to win consistently vs NFL tackles. He tried everything last night, he tried the bull rush, he tried a wider arc, he tried the spin move but he just doesn't have a special trait (something like Rousseau's length for example) that will make a tackle's job difficult. I personally thought the roughing the passer call was him trying that bit too hard and while fans might not like it that was called entirely in line with the guidance officials get these days. He was outplayed not only by Rousseau but by Obada and Darryl Johnson on the night. His performance was consistent with reports that he has faded badly in camp. He is not in any danger for his roster spot given his draft status but at the moment he isn't ready for the NFL. Antonio Williams - I, like many others, liked what I saw in Williams's week 17 cameo against the Dolphins and was excited to see what he could do in pre-season. While it is fair to say he didn't have the same line blocking for him that Singletary had early on - Boettger and Ford were not in and Spencer Brown came out early in the 2nd half too - Williams was unable to take his opportunities last night and as a guy very much mired in that 4th running back spot coming in he didn't elevate his stock. With Singletary, Moss and Brieda ahead of him and Jones as that special teams / break glass in emergency runner Williams will have to ball out now in games 2 and 3 to avoid being cut - although a return to the practice squad remains possible. So there it is, the Bills' first pre-season game in two year is in the book. I'll be back with my thoughts after pre-season game number 2! Edited August 14, 2021 by GunnerBill 19 4 9 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo Boy Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: When he extends that right arm and angles his body ( extra length/karate striking trick) Sewell can’t even get his hands on him. Not something we will see him get away with often as it’s defendable but sweet to see it last night. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: When he extends that right arm and angles his body ( extra length/karate striking trick) Sewell can’t even get his hands on him. Not something we will see him get away with often as it’s defendable but sweet to see it last night. No but as his arms are longer than many LTs arms - it should be available as needed. The length with a stretch allow him to get a hand to the tackle before the tackle can get his hands on Rousseau and if he is strong enough with that punch - many tackles are going to look just like Sewell there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Love the post @GunnerBill - agreed pretty much right along the board with what you said. I have to believe the team will watch that film and be most upset with Hart. I think they were hoping he would look good against those back-ups and maybe drive up an asking price for trade. Instead - he showed he couldn’t even compete with 4th and 5th string guys - huge disappointment as I think he was gone anyway, but I think he just may have played himself out of the league rather than even a tradable commodity. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: No but as his arms are longer than many LTs arms - it should be available as needed. The length with a stretch allow him to get a hand to the tackle before the tackle can get his hands on Rousseau and if he is strong enough with that punch - many tackles are going to look just like Sewell there. Crazy how Sewell is jolted backwards at that initial punch. Mouth watering stuff 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Pretty good review. Agree on the CBs that everyone knew and the Bills did nothing about. Agree on the tackle depth. Really concerning. I thought Bates was bad too. Need to find someone to bring in. One guy that really stood out in a negative way, was Efe Obada. Darryl Johnson should easily make thee team over Efe. An absolute cheap play to go after the QBs legs like that, and over pursued all night. Get him out of here. I disagree with your Webb assessment. Thought he was pretty bad. The throws he made were not difficult ones. He was bad at reading the play and going through progressions fast. Fromm showed something you could work with, Webb gave me nothing that I felt like I trust if he had to go into a game. Stevenson needs to get some run with the starters to see what he can do with a good QB. We need speed bad on this team. Hodgins isn't cut out for the NFL. 1 2 4 8 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Are you sure it was Boogie who roughed the passer? I thought it was Obada who got his ankles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 14, 2021 Author Share Posted August 14, 2021 Just now, SoCal Deek said: Are you sure it was Boogie who roughed the passer? I thought it was Obada who got his ankles. Separate plays. They both had a RTP call. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Just now, GunnerBill said: Separate plays. They both had a RTP call. OK…can’t recall the Boogie one then. All of those questionable calls became a blur after a while. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 I just finished watching the game and my immediate post-game reaction was: cut Hart. He was brutal. So happy to see that Rousseau appears to be ready for prime time. Roughing call on Obada was complete b.s. I “get” the call on Boogie but it was borderline also. I thought Boogie had his struggles but also flashed a few times. Agree with your take on CB depth. I’ll add Stevenson to the “good night” column. Showed excellent hands and displayed some of that speed. I’ll give him a pass for taking that last kickoff out of the end zone as he was just trying to make a play. I was less enthusiastic about Webb’s play. I guess it was gameplanning but absolutely nothing down the field, and a couple of those throwaways were questionable. Really bad play on the intentional grounding; I don’t expect that from a guy everyone says is so smart. He threw the pass to Sweeney on his inside shoulder or that could have been an even bigger play. I think Fromm had a decent outing. No chance on those sacks. Put the ball in good position on most of his throws (missed Duke on the deep one) and he was the only Bills QB to go downfield with the ball. Really liked the emphasis on the running game and agree that Motor looked great. It was only one play but an excellent CATCH in a tight window by Knox. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Thanks…. Scratching my head wondering why the Bills did absolutely nothing at corner all off-season. Still not too late…. I think cuts are good spot to grab depth for CB and OL, there tends to be surprise vet cuts somewhere and the Bills aren't looking for a starter at CB. They probably could get a better starter opposite Tre just don't think that's their plan. @GunnerBill Is it too late to add Aresnal to the Bad Night 😈 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 14, 2021 Author Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 minute ago, eball said: I think Fromm had a decent outing. No chance on those sacks. Put the ball in good position on most of his throws (missed Duke on the deep one) and he was the only Bills QB to go downfield with the ball. Fromm had three throws to the outside that are all pick 6s in a regular season game against first team corners. The ball took forever to get out there. Peterman mark II 1 minute ago, Wayne Cubed said: I think cuts are good spot to grab depth for CB and OL, there tends to be surprise vet cuts somewhere and the Bills aren't looking for a starter at CB. They probably could get a better starter opposite Tre just don't think that's their plan. @GunnerBill Is it too late to add Aresnal to the Bad Night 😈 I'd have to add a new category to describe Arsenal's "performance" last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Pretty good review. Agree on the CBs that everyone knew and the Bills did nothing about. Agree on the tackle depth. Really concerning. I thought Bates was bad too. Need to find someone to bring in. One guy that really stood out in a negative way, was Efe Obada. Darryl Johnson should easily make thee team over Efe. An absolute cheap play to go after the QBs legs like that, and over pursued all night. Get him out of here. I disagree with your Webb assessment. Thought he was pretty bad. The throws he made were not difficult ones. He was bad at reading the play and going through progressions fast. Fromm showed something you could work with, Webb gave me nothing that I felt like I trust if he had to go into a game. Stevenson needs to get some run with the starters to see what he can do with a good QB. We need speed bad on this team. Hodgins isn't cut out for the NFL. Stevenson, even if he makes the team, is very rarely going to see the field unless it’s special teams. I don’t know how we need speed real bad when we scored 501 points….seems like it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, eball said: I just finished watching the game and my immediate post-game reaction was: cut Hart. He was brutal. So happy to see that Rousseau appears to be ready for prime time. Roughing call on Obada was complete b.s. I “get” the call on Boogie but it was borderline also. I thought Boogie had his struggles but also flashed a few times. Agree with your take on CB depth. I’ll add Stevenson to the “good night” column. Showed excellent hands and displayed some of that speed. I’ll give him a pass for taking that last kickoff out of the end zone as he was just trying to make a play. I was less enthusiastic about Webb’s play. I guess it was gameplanning but absolutely nothing down the field, and a couple of those throwaways were questionable. Really bad play on the intentional grounding; I don’t expect that from a guy everyone says is so smart. He threw the pass to Sweeney on his inside shoulder or that could have been an even bigger play. I think Fromm had a decent outing. No chance on those sacks. Put the ball in good position on most of his throws (missed Duke on the deep one) and he was the only Bills QB to go downfield with the ball. Really liked the emphasis on the running game and agree that Motor looked great. It was only one play but an excellent CATCH in a tight window by Knox. No it wasn't. That is how QBs breaks knees and legs. I would like to see the response if someone did that to Allen. It's a play that needs out of the game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Just now, GunnerBill said: Fromm had three throws to the outside that are all pick 6s in a regular season game against first team corners. The ball took forever to get out there. Peterman mark II Yeah, maybe. I think he still winds up on the PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 14, 2021 Author Share Posted August 14, 2021 Just now, eball said: Yeah, maybe. I think he still winds up on the PS. He may well because he is a nice Christian boy and they do seem to like him. He isn't talented enough though. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: No it wasn't. That is how QBs breaks knees and legs. I would like to see the response if someone did that to Allen. It's a play that needs out of the game I don’t know…he didn’t go at Boyle’s knees at all; it looked to me like an effort to tackle him at his ankles, which happens all the time. I’ll have to watch it again. 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: He may well because he is a nice Christian boy and they do seem to like him. He isn't talented enough though. In any event, it’s nice to be debating who is the better 3rd or 4th string QB for the Bills. Edited August 14, 2021 by eball 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Great post to wake up to and read on a Saturday morning. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Back2Buff said: No it wasn't. That is how QBs breaks knees and legs. I would like to see the response if someone did that to Allen. It's a play that needs out of the game He didn’t go after his legs, he dipped his shoulder and beat the tackle….the tackle pushed Efe into the QB, Efe hooked a leg. It was a penalty based on the text book rule but it wasn’t a cheap shot. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: OK…can’t recall the Boogie one then. All of those questionable calls became a blur after a while. 😉 Boogie was the beautiful form tackle on the QB just after delivering the pass, but he landed on the QB with his weight. Very questionable, but based upon how the rule is interpreted- it was probably correct. I thought Obada showed some nice things and struggled at times, but the roughing the passer looked bad. I saw it live and told my wife just as he picked it off - this is coming back on a RTP call. What I saw in replay was it looked like the tackle shoved his back in a downward motion which brought him lower into the knee area, but that was bad all around. I also find it funny that Bills fans were worried about getting injured and most of the questionable hits came from our young guys - not the lions. Edited August 14, 2021 by Rochesterfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: Boogie was the beautiful form tackle on the QB just after delivering the pass, but he landed on the QB with his weight. Very questionable, but based upon how the rule is interpreted- it was probably correct. I thought Obada showed some nice things and struggled at times, but the roughing the passer looked bad. I saw it live and told my wife just as he picked it off - this is coming back on a RTP call. What I saw in replay was it looked like the tackle shoved his back in a downward motion which brought him lower into the knee area, but that was bad all around. I also find it funny that Bills fans were worried about getting injured and most of the questionable hits came from our young guys - not the lions. I was honestly pleased with how aggressive the Bills were and the sort of penalties they received. I don’t want anyone to play dirty or get injured but I also don’t want guys walking on egg shells the entire preseason…or what’s the point? I was also pleased that there were so FEW of the typical illegal procedure, formation or offside calls that so often dominate a preseason opener. All in all I thought both teams did well there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Good Night: Rousseau Singletary Stevenson Sweeney Linebacker Depth Bad Night: Hart McKenzie Hodgins (can’t stay healthy) Basham Secondary Depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: I also find it funny that Bills fans were worried about getting injured and most of the questionable hits came from our young guys - not the lions. Guilty as charged! Although a Lion did make that awful helmet-to-helmet hit on one of our punt returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 46 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: No but as his arms are longer than many LTs arms - it should be available as needed. The length with a stretch allow him to get a hand to the tackle before the tackle can get his hands on Rousseau and if he is strong enough with that punch - many tackles are going to look just like Sewell there. Have we seen O linemen, WRs and DBs work on their hand fighting skills to get off jams at the line? It will work sometimes but not always. This is why D linemen need multiple “ Moves” and footwork and feints to set up those moves. It is literally fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 S Josh Thomas had a good night 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 I know it won’t happen because of “culture”, but I liked what I saw out of Webb. Enough so that I wouldn’t mind swinging a trade with Trubisky to some qb hungry team. Maybe get some decent corner action in return? Nah… too Madden-y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 48 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Are you sure it was Boogie who roughed the passer? I thought it was Obada who got his ankles. It was both ef took out the qbs ankles when he lunged forward And boogie pancakes the qb which you can't land on them anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Bobby Hart was awful. So was Goosebury or whatever his name is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 43 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: No it wasn't. That is how QBs breaks knees and legs. I would like to see the response if someone did that to Allen. It's a play that needs out of the game league has been enforcing those calls for years now. Efe got pushed into the qb but still needs to learn how to avoid the low contact. Lions qb was lucky, could have been his season right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Just now, ScottLaw said: Yea, I’m more so talking a decent depth CB…. Maybe you are right and one good veteran falls into their lap post cuts…. But for whatever odd reasoning they have it doesn’t and didn’t seem like a priority all off-season….. they are ***** if White(hell even Levi) goes down for an extended period of time or during the playoffs. Oh I agree, if White goes down, they are screwed on defense at the CB position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Re CB depth, you wonder if Josh Norman may be an option. I wasn’t a fan of this, but his knowledge of the defense and the comfort level by the coaches might make him pretty serviceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: OK…can’t recall the Boogie one then. All of those questionable calls became a blur after a while. 😉 Boogie hit him full on and drove the weight of his body into him. That is what I think they called... You know, old fashion tackle football. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Separate plays. They both had a RTP call. Had Boogie not of landed on him, it would have been considered a great play by him. Also, it seems like he held his ground very well. All in all, I think this Bills DL is by far the deepest unit on the entire team. Seemed like no matter what the rotation was, they did good, real good. I’m also surprised by the depth we have at LB. Ultimately I’m hoping we can add a corner or two after rosters start to get trimmed down. I think this is our weakest unit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 I won't say good/bad but instead call them concerns. First off one comment on one of the Lions kickers, does he also play LB?? He could. I wonder on kickoffs, do they tell him kick the ball then go break up the wedge. From the size of him, think he could. (and yes that has been outlawed) Backup OT is a concern in a number of ways. Thought Doyle, Brown and particularly Hart looked shaky. The issue though to me is how do they handle the numbers there. Assume they keep the two rookies on the 53, do they really want to have to carry 5 OT's on the roster? I believe Bates can play some tackle, but not sure how well, but still may be better than these three. Or do they take a chance and cut Doyle and hope to get him onto the PS? But even then who's the back up that's reliable? Maybe a trade of one of our surplus DL or WR and throw in Doyle for a good back up OT as that also solves the numbers issue? Or does Doyle get a paper cut and ends up on IR? Think there may be a couple of these questionable IR moves made to breakup the log jam, or trades. Admittedly without knowing blocking schemes, hard to totally fault one person, but it didn't look very good. I tend to agree with Gunner in that Webb looked too good last night to sneak onto the PS. What impressed me about him was his poise. He doesn't have the physical skills, but won't seem to make dumb mental mistakes. I was kind of surprised too how long they played him. Could it be the Bills are trying to give the guy a break and show cased him either for a trade or if he is released to give him a good shot at sticking somewhere else? If we're down to the 3rd string QB, we're in trouble anyway so maybe it doesn't matter. Or they sign his replacement off the Sept releases. Don't know what TV in Western NY was on, but for me out of town was the NFL network. As normally done the broadcasters are the home crew. I get it, it saves some money in meaningless pre-season games. So if people in Buffalo have to watch the Detroit guys so be it, could always turn on the Bills radio broadcast too. I'm assuming those were the Bills crew?? But you'd think the NFL network would say these games are being broadcast coast to coast, we'll use your local crew, but you have to at least give the line ups for the visiting teams and state who made the play, catch, run, tackle, etc. and pretend you at least know something about them. In two weeks likely the Bills crew will be broadcasting back to Green Bay, I wonder if they are also this bad with ignoring the visiting team? And then with 15 seconds left at exactly 10:00 right when Bass is lining up for the kick, they had to switch to the Cowboy-Cardinal game as God forbid a Dallas fan might miss the opening kickoff. They did switch back just in time to see the kick, but then immediately back to Dallas. If Detroit had ran the kickoff back for a TD, I never would have known. Normally on Sunday games, showing the ending of a game takes president over the opening kickoff. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 14, 2021 Author Share Posted August 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Had Boogie not of landed on him, it would have been considered a great play by him. Also, it seems like he held his ground very well. All in all, I think this Bills DL is by far the deepest unit on the entire team. Seemed like no matter what the rotation was, they did good, real good. I’m also surprised by the depth we have at LB. Ultimately I’m hoping we can add a corner or two after rosters start to get trimmed down. I think this is our weakest unit. To me he was late. The guidance officials are given is one step after the ball is out and Boogie takes two. I know it seems crazy to ask a big man at that speed to slow that quickly which is why they do give leeway if you don't then land on the QBs body but Boogie does. Those are tough calls on the D but that is the way the league wants the refs to call it. 1 hour ago, TPS said: S Josh Thomas had a good night He did. Thought Hamlin flashed some too. Those two seem in competition for one spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: To me he was late. The guidance officials are given is one step after the ball is out and Boogie takes two. I know it seems crazy to ask a big man at that speed to slow that quickly which is why they do give leeway if you don't then land on the QBs body but Boogie does. Those are tough calls on the D but that is the way the league wants the refs to call it. You're probably right, but as a kid watching real football in the seventies, it's risible what is now considered roughing. (And yes, I understand that safety concerns are legitimate.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 While Webb's overall numbers were not bad and he didn't make the crucial mistake, I thought at least a few times the game was going too fast for him. He made errant throw-a-way's. I like that he is big and athletic like Allen. Turbitzky is probably only here for a year so it would be worth it to keep Webb and develop him as next years #2 hopefully. But you could really see the difference between Allen, a $258 million dollar QB, and Webb last night in how each would have handled the same pressure. Allen is able to move out of it and still find an open receiver. Got to like Stevenson catching all three of his targets and showing his speed on the deep ball to beat the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Re CB depth, you wonder if Josh Norman may be an option. I wasn’t a fan of this, but his knowledge of the defense and the comfort level by the coaches might make him pretty serviceable. I’m wondering what’s the deal with Quinton Dunbar?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Excellent breakdown of the game. I think you nailed it. It's great that you take the time to do this for all of us. I was a bit surprised by the burst shown by Singletary. He hit the hole quickly and decisively. That was missing last season. Their best running plays were the draws, dives and traps. When they tried to run the outside stretch plays, they went nowhere. This o-line is not very good at a zone blocking scheme. They are best at straight ahead, hat on a hat power blocking. It was clear that the younger db's struggled playing in the complicated Mc'D zone. There were several apparently blown assignments. There will be lots of teaching moments for them in the video from the second half. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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