Afghanistan

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

27 minutes ago, ALF said:

 

I bet China will go there and do the mining, control the lithium battery market .

They already are a big player behind Chilie and Australia. Not sure how much is in that region and how it changes the landscape. 

[Chef Jim]

6 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:

 

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf

 

“The United States is committed to start immediately to work with all relevant sides on a plan to expeditiously release combat and political prisoners as a confidence building measure with the coordination and approval of all relevant sides. Up to five thousand (5,000) prisoners of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban and up to one thousand (1,000) prisoners of the other side will be released by March 10, 2020, the first day of intra-Afghan negotiations, which corresponds to Rajab 15, 1441 on the Hijri Lunar calendar and Hoot 20, 1398 on the Hijri Solar calendar. “
 

Unless we can have unelected officials at State enter into agreements with other nations or other not nations, someone in the Executive branch had to have signed off on this and Trump was the leader of the Executive branch at the time it was agreed. 
 

Both Trump and the Republican Party have said how great Trump was for getting this deal as well.

 

Where they involved in negotiating the release?  Yes.  But that's not was Billy said.  He said Trump released 5,000 prisoners.  Call it semantics all you want but words have meaning and Billy is not very good with words.  

[SCBills]

Can somebody ask anyone in the Biden Admin what the plan is to get Americans from Point A to Point B, because… shocker…. There currently isn’t one. 
 

 

[BillStime]

50 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

He did??  Please show us how Trump had and used the authority to release those prisoners.

 

You're already the laughing stock of the board.  Might as well keep it going.  

Yes - he pressured Afghanistan leadership to release them.

 

Laughing stock? A supposed financial planner can’t read a graph? 
 

Carry on Taliban Jim

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Westside]

24 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Can somebody ask anyone in the Biden Admin what the plan is to get Americans from Point A to Point B, because… shocker…. There currently isn’t one. 
 

 

The blood is in bidens hands. He owns this catastrophe!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

41 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Can somebody ask anyone in the Biden Admin what the plan is to get Americans from Point A to Point B, because… shocker…. There currently isn’t one. 
 

 

Why is the mouthpiece of the party airing this?
 

It completely deviates from the norm. 
 

Is it to distract from nationwide acceleration of Covid again? 

 

Are the dems trying to ram through some legislation they want to avoid talking about? 
 

are they trying to rebuild an appetite for a re-escalation or to pivot to new theatre? 
 

there is clearly an agenda at work here. It’s not clear what it is. 

[All_Pro_Bills]

43 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Where they involved in negotiating the release?  Yes.  But that's not was Billy said.  He said Trump released 5,000 prisoners.  Call it semantics all you want but words have meaning and Billy is not very good with words.  

Billsy continues to obsess about Trump.  Probably for the rest of time.  I can hear future generations of Billsy's speaking about how "200 million years ago Trump said mean things about people while White Supremacists pillaged and plundered the country once called the USA".

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Crushing people showing patriotism, forcing people into covering their faces, radical intervention and segregation into the classroom, radical punishment for anyone who opposes their views. 
 

Taliban is the wokest!

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/taliban-opens-fire-on-protesters-raising-afghan-national-flag-118947909601
 

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

Yes - he pressured Afghanistan leadership to release them.

 

Laughing stock? A supposed financial planner can’t read a graph? 
 

Carry on Taliban Jim

 

But I thought HE released them.  Are you confused Billsy but you sure seem confused.

 

And yes I read that graph just fine.  You ***** up with your assertion that states with low vaccination rates are horrible while the graphs I showed  the state with the highest vaccination rate (Vermont) had an per capita case increase that was not that much less than the per capita rate of the state with the lowest vaccination rate (Alabama).  Prove me wrong. 

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

 

But I thought HE released them.  Are you confused Billsy but you sure seem confused.

 

And yes I read that graph just fine.  You ***** up with your assertion that states with low vaccination rates are horrible while the graphs I showed  the state with the highest vaccination rate (Vermont) had an per capita case increase that was not that much less than the per capita rate of the state with the lowest vaccination rate (Alabama).  Prove me wrong. 

Keep spinning Taliban Jim 

[Buffarukus]

1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

They already are a big player behind Chilie and Australia. Not sure how much is in that region and how it changes the landscape. 

 

 

 

[Chef Jim]

4 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Keep spinning Taliban Jim 

 

Prove me wrong on either of my points. I debate you and  you constantly deflect with your silly immature nonsense which pretty much proves you cannot argue your points.  You never ever do. You just deflect.  You have failed time and time again to prove your assertions right and mine wrong.  What does that tell the logical minds?  BTW that question was for the others on the board not you.  See I used the word logical to define the noun mind.  Those two words don't go together with you. 

[BillStime]

5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Prove me wrong on either of my points. I debate you and  you constantly deflect with your silly immature nonsense which pretty much proves you cannot argue your points.  You never ever do. You just deflect.  You have failed time and time again to prove your assertions right and mine wrong.  What does that tell the logical minds?  BTW that question was for the others on the board not you.  See I used the word logical to define the noun mind.  Those two words don't go together with you. 

You are a sore loser

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

You are a sore loser

 

I have yet to lose dude.  LOL  

 

[B-Man]

Back to the thread.............

 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

You are a sore loser

Hey Billstime ... you really need to learn when to STFU.  There isn't even any one at CNN defending the Biden Administration on this one.  

[Niagara Bill]

5 hours ago, Tenhigh said:

So how did the US  let Russia out of their fight of 20 year?  I generally agree with some of your points, no need to make stuff up to prove your point.

After 20 years of financing Afghani rebels (taliban)  in their fight against Russia over oil and minerals, Russia gave up and  short time later  the US uses terrorists as an excuse to fight the same group.

[Doc]

4 hours ago, BillStime said:

Yes - he pressured Afghanistan leadership to release them.

 

Laughing stock? A supposed financial planner can’t read a graph? 
 

Carry on Taliban Jim

 

The Taliban also released 1,000 Afghan soldiers.  Meanwhile replacing thousands of fighters isn't a hard task for the Taliban.  Hence the reason why Afghanistan never has and never will be conquered.

Edited August 18, 2021 by Doc

[Pokebball]

On 8/6/2021 at 1:35 PM, Tiberius said:

It was election politics. We were attacked the President felt like he had to attack back in a way for short term political gain 

 

There was never a way to “win” in Afghanistan 

South Korea is a prosperous democratic nation. We won that war 

I don't think the Korean war was a war we won.  An armistice was called between SK, NK, China and the US to stop fighting.  And we were in SK much longer than 20 yrs, to keep NK at bay, even to this day.  The reasons to stay have grown in strategic ways, but the fact remains, we've never left.

 

I'm not defending Afghanistan, just pointing this out.

[Tenhigh]

37 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

After 20 years of financing Afghani rebels (taliban)  in their fight against Russia over oil and minerals, Russia gave up and  short time later  the US uses terrorists as an excuse to fight the same group.

1989 to 2001 is 12 years by my math. Short time in who's book?

[SCBills]

 

[Doc]

Absolutely pathetic.

[TSOL]

6 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

 

 

This is truly bizarre and has a feel to it like somebody is setting somebody up for something. 

 

I can't imagine our countrys military with so many vast resources and intelligence being so incompetent and buffoonish. There MUST be ulterior motives for the way this is playing out. 

[Doc]

30 minutes ago, TSOL said:

This is truly bizarre and has a feel to it like somebody is setting somebody up for something. 

 

I can't imagine our countrys military with so many vast resources and intelligence being so incompetent and buffoonish. There MUST be ulterior motives for the way this is playing out. 

 

They're likely to vote Republican?

Edited August 18, 2021 by Doc

[sherpa]

27 minutes ago, TSOL said:

This is truly bizarre and has a feel to it like somebody is setting somebody up for something. 

 

I can't imagine our countrys military with so many vast resources and intelligence being so incompetent and buffoonish. There MUST be ulterior motives for the way this is playing out. 

 

Nonsense.

[716er]

3 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

 

I have yet to lose dude.  LOL  

 

You spend most of your time in PPP

 

You already lost 

[All_Pro_Bills]

5 hours ago, Bidens_basement said:

The blood is in bidens hands. He owns this catastrophe!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬

Saigon 2.0 or Saigon "on steroids" to plagiarize the President's perspective on another topic.  Worse than the humiliating optics of Revolutionary Guard "students" marching US Embassy personal through the streets of Tehran.   

[Big Blitz]

This country is going to be beaming with such pride on September 11th. 

 

[sherpa]

1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said:

After 20 years of financing Afghani rebels (taliban)  in their fight against Russia over oil and minerals, Russia gave up and  short time later  the US uses terrorists as an excuse to fight the same group.

 

Incorrect.

[snafu]

1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said:

After 20 years of financing Afghani rebels (taliban)  in their fight against Russia over oil and minerals, Russia gave up and  short time later  the US uses terrorists as an excuse to fight the same group.

 

The Mujahideen are not the Taliban.  Not the same group.  Who was fighting Russia over oil and minerals?  The US and about 40 other countries used "terrorists as an excuse" after 9/11/2001, when those very "terrorists" claimed refuge in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan.

You can rightly complain about the cost and the mistakes made across four separate US administrations, but at least get your facts straight.

 

[Big Blitz]

 

[SCBills]

Biden refuses to take questions after his booster shot presser. 
 

Pathetic. 

[wnyguy]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Biden refuses to take questions after his booster shot presser. 
 

Pathetic. 

And this is the guy who allegedly got the most votes in US history. This guy.

[Niagara Bill]

26 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

The Mujahideen are not the Taliban.  Not the same group.  Who was fighting Russia over oil and minerals?  The US and about 40 other countries used "terrorists as an excuse" after 9/11/2001, when those very "terrorists" claimed refuge in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan.

You can rightly complain about the cost and the mistakes made across four separate US administrations, but at least get your facts straight.

 

Love how everyone wants to debate small details when the overarching issue it doesn't matter.

Different name, same group of terrorists. Same goal, same results. Same bs.

The US spend 20 years, Russians spend 12 to 20 then turned the battle over to US. Both superpowers (laughable term after the results) spent trillions....more than just chasing Osama.,follow the money....military contractors and ex-generals getting rich. Socialism for the defence industry, at its best.🙂🙂🙂🙂

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, 716er said:

You spend most of your time banging your head against the wall debating with @BillStime

 

You already lost 

 

Good point. 

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

 

 

So we have a cargo plane depart loaded with Afghani refugees but leave Americans stranded.  ***** beautiful.  

[BillStime]

3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Hey Billstime ... you really need to learn when to STFU.  There isn't even any one at CNN defending the Biden Administration on this one.  

Oh yea precious?

 

I’m not defending anyone - just highlighting inconvenient facts.

 

[snafu]

8 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Love how everyone wants to debate small details when the overarching issue it doesn't matter.

Different name, same group of terrorists. Same goal, same results. Same bs.

The US spend 20 years, Russians spend 12 to 20 then turned the battle over to US. Both superpowers (laughable term after the results) spent trillions....more than just chasing Osama.,follow the money....military contractors and ex-generals getting rich. Socialism for the defence industry, at its best.🙂🙂🙂🙂

 

I'll give you this -- too much time was wasted and too much money was spent. And the mission changed from "Chasing Osama".

Other than that, you've typed mostly senseless blabber.  And why haggle over facts, right?

 

One other thing.  We kicked the ***** out of the Taliban.  They fled to their hidey holes in Pakistan, and we weren't chasing them over the border.  Then in 2014 we turned over the reigns to the Afghans and things eventually went to *****.  It took seven years with just a small US force in the country, but the Taliban was gaining land all the time.  Anyone paying attention could have seen this coming.  That's why Biden screwed the withdrawal up so badly.  

 

 

 

[B-Man]

6 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

 

Forget 🐿️ Boy

 

 

 

 

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[Big Blitz]

Omg....

 

 

Yep.....