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14 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

The image of people hanging on to departing aircraft and falling to their deaths isn't good optics for one.  And if I was stuck there I'd be worried as those savages have no incentive to play nice here as Biden's lack of foresight has left the US in a very weak position. 

C'mon man, that was like 4 or 5 days ago - Joe Biden

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15 minutes ago, Governor said:

Dunno. You should ask the generals, but so far, nothing bad happened and the Taliban seems cool with letting us get everyone out, which makes it an extremely successful withdrawal from a 20 year war.

You’re an ass

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11 minutes ago, Governor said:

But it isn’t over yet. You wanted to end this chapter at the beginning of the withdrawal.

Are we having trouble READING again Governor? I said that the criticism is coming from the direct comments made by the people supposedly in charge! Yes, it might all turn out OK, but that doesn’t mean it’s not a mess! It just means it’s not a disaster. Sheeesh

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4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Are we having trouble READING again Governor? I said that the criticism is coming from the direct comments made by the people supposedly in charge! Yes, it might all turn out OK, but that doesn’t mean it’s not a mess! It just means it’s not a disaster. Sheeesh

I’m just a little surprised that we’re supposed to be concerned with optics after we just had a president tell us Covid was a hoax and we should inject bleach and aquarium cleaner into our foreheads. That’s all.

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2 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

Add trump, Obama, Bush, countless Sec of State, Pentagon Chiefs, Generals, and the only ones who get out unscathed is the military contractors.

The women and children of Afghanistan will pay the price.  But Nancy P will investigate 😅😅😅😅, T Carleson will get ratings, but the ideology has one. 

Failure means that a repeat of 9 11 can potentially occur. 

Oh yeah, that is why we were there.   hmmmmm

And let’s not forget James Madison,  Chester Allen Arthur, F Scott Fitzgerald and the cast of Golden Girls living and dead (RIP).  We also can’t forget Math Damon, Bart Starr, Milli and Vanilli, and  the good sisters of Mt St Mary High School 1974-1986.    
 

Oh, and ain’t no way your people are getting off scottso-freeze—-Justin Bieber, Allen Thicke, Pierre Trudeau and any Mountie who ever wore those funny puffy pants. 
 

 Complicit, all. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

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Just now, Governor said:

I’m just a little surprised that we’re supposed to be concerned with optics after we just had a president tell us Covid was a hoax and we should inject bleach and aquarium cleaner into our foreheads. That’s all.

 

So there is no longer a need to be concerned with optics not that Trump is gone?    :wallbash:

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2 minutes ago, Governor said:

I’m just a little surprised that we’re supposed to be concerned with optics after we just had a president tell us Covid was a hoax and we should inject bleach and aquarium cleaner into our foreheads. That’s all.

What? Optics? Have you EVER been in charge of anything? This is not about optics! This is about the people in charge proclaiming things day after day that turn out to be totally false the very next day. That’s not optics. It’s incompetence. There’s a difference. 

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10 minutes ago, Governor said:

I’m just a little surprised that we’re supposed to be concerned with optics after we just had a president tell us Covid was a hoax and we should inject bleach and aquarium cleaner into our foreheads. That’s all.

 

Laughable.  Biden's whole campaign hinged on having better "optics" than Trump.  If Trump lowered the bar so much, why doesn't Biden lift it up?  "Bad optics" is now always acceptable because of Trump?  What a joke.

 

 

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UK and French troops are extracting their own citizens from outside the airport.  
 

USA leadership says we currently do not have the capability to do so.  
 

Reporters need to be pressing tf out of leadership on this.  

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21 minutes ago, SCBills said:

UK and French troops are extracting their own citizens from outside the airport.  
 

USA leadership says we currently do not have the capability to do so.  
 

Reporters need to be pressing tf out of leadership on this.  

 

So not the French are making us look bad?  I fear @oldmanfan may be right.  

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3 hours ago, Bidens_basement said:

Did they plan this horrific withdrawal from Afghanistan? No, this is squarely on biden. No one is against the withdrawal, it’s the lack of a plan that infuriated everyone.
 

Same frigging generals and contractors that ran this war,

20 yrs and no infiltration of taliban to know what they were planning. Seriously, do you want the Pres to sit at the desk and write out a plan. He carries the can but the military is useless. The CIA spends billions. No info. 

Someone got pushed under a bus.

Every general, Pentagon people and state debt should be fired.

They font even know how many Americans are there. Bet the contractors do.

1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

And let’s not forget James Madison,  Chester Allen Arthur, F Scott Fitzgerald and the cast of Golden Girls living and dead (RIP).  We also can’t forget Math Damon, Bart Starr, Milli and Vanilli, and  the good sisters of Mt St Mary High School 1974-1986.    
 

Oh, and ain’t no way your people are getting off scottso-freeze—-Justin Bieber, Allen Thicke, Pierre Trudeau and any Mountie who ever wore those funny puffy pants. 
 

 Complicit, all. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

Amen, throw in the coach of the Maple Leafs, Neuman and his boss the Post Master general.

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1 minute ago, Niagara Bill said:

Same frigging generals and contractors that ran this war,

20 yrs and no infiltration of taliban to know what they were planning. Seriously, do you want the Pres to sit at the desk and write out a plan. He carries the can but the military is useless. The CIA spends billions. No info. 

Someone got pushed under a bus.

Every general, Pentagon people and state debt should be fired.

They font even know how many Americans are there. Bet the contractors do.

 

Not write the plan but be a very big part of it wouldn't you agree?  He does hold the title of Commander-in-Chief of our armed forces no? 

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36 minutes ago, SCBills said:

UK and French troops are extracting their own citizens from outside the airport.  
 

USA leadership says we currently do not have the capability to do so.  
 

Reporters need to be pressing tf out of leadership on this.  

 

I would imagine we ARE but it's not the kind of thing you'd broadcast...I'm an expert at this, I've watched Homeland Seasons 1-10 AND sat through Argo

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49 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Not write the plan but be a very big part of it wouldn't you agree?  He does hold the title of Commander-in-Chief of our armed forces no? 

Yes he is and is responsible, but would you not trust a general and state dept who have been there 20 frigging years. Fire them all, embarrass them all publicly. 

Follow the money. It looks like the trillions were stolen and not used.

Must be Mad Dog and trumps boys....😁😁😁😁😁😁

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15 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Yes he is and is responsible, but would you not trust a general and state dept who have been there 20 frigging years. Fire them all, embarrass them all publicly. 

Follow the money. It looks like the trillions were stolen and not used.

Must be Mad Dog and trumps boys....😁😁😁😁😁😁

 

What in the ever loving God does this have to do with Trump??   You were doing so good up until that point

 

Canada = America's Hat

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41 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Yes he is and is responsible, but would you not trust a general and state dept who have been there 20 frigging years. Fire them all, embarrass them all publicly. 

Follow the money. It looks like the trillions were stolen and not used.

Must be Mad Dog and trumps boys....😁😁😁😁😁😁

 

You are absolutely clueless on how this country works, and how this thing has been handled.

What you post are conclusions based on zero knowledge and demonstrate gross ignorance. 

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25 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

You are absolutely clueless on how this country works, and how this thing has been handled.

What you post are conclusions based on zero knowledge and demonstrate gross ignorance. 

You have not got a clue other than politics.

How your country works is no different than others. You are not that special anymore. The pres is commander in chief in title only. He relies on experienced people who in this case were totally crooks, stealing their salary.

So, if you think 20 years of military leadership, CIA involvement, state department etc and Biden is responsible. On paper yes. In reality not.

So sherpa boy, go sneak up on a pretty sheep tonight, keep warm until you figure out the world has passed your simple views by.

 

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7 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

You have not got a clue other than politics.

How your country works is no different than others. You are not that special anymore. The pres is commander in chief in title only. He relies on experienced people who in this case were totally crooks, stealing their salary.

So, if you think 20 years of military leadership, CIA involvement, state department etc and Biden is responsible. On paper yes. In reality not.

So sherpa boy, go sneak up on a pretty sheep tonight, keep warm until you figure out the world has passed your simple views by.

 

Say what? Yes, Biden is "responsible".  Not that that means much....it's just a word. I'm the President of my company, and yes, I am responsible too!  Does it mean that I make all the decisions about everything that goes on. Of course not. That's not the definition of 'responsible' as used in this context. Sheeeesh!

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https://nypost.com/2021/08/19/afghan-moms-throw-babies-over-barbed-wire-to-uk-troops-at-airport/

 

Harrowing footage has emerged of Afghan mothers throwing their babies over barbed wire at Kabul airport as they begged British troops to save them from the Taliban.

“The mothers were desperate, they were getting beaten by the Taliban. They shouted, ‘Save my baby!’ and threw the babies at us. Some of the babies fell on the barbed wire,” a Parachute Regiment officer told the UK’s Independent.

“It was awful what happened. By the end of the night, there wasn’t one man among us who was not crying,” he added quietly.

The heartbreaking scene unfolded as locals also handed their children to US soldiers on the other side of an airport wall in hopes of getting them placed on evacuation flights from the embattled capital.

 

 

Truly awful. Pisses me off.  

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https://nypost.com/2021/08/19/trump-slams-twitter-for-allowing-taliban-but-banning-him-as-president/

 

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Trump slams Twitter for allowing Taliban but banning him as president

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Will Feuer

August 19, 2021 8:14am 

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Donald Trump has called the Taliban's presence on the site "disgraceful."Drew Angerer/Getty Images

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Former President Donald Trump slammed Twitter for allowing the Taliban to use the social media platform to provide updates on their conquest of Afghanistan — as it stands by its decision to ban him from the site.

“It’s disgraceful when you think that you have killers and muggers and dictators and horrible — some horrible dictators and countries, and they’re all on but the president of the United States, who had hundreds of millions of people, by the way, he gets taken off,” Trump told Newsmax Wednesday in a phone interview.

While Trump has remained banned from the platform since the Jan. 6 Capitol riots, Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid has been allowed to post updates freely on the platform.

Mujahid’s unverified account, which was used to provide updates on the Taliban’s capture of Afghan cities as they aggressively took control of the country in days, has racked up more than 326,000 followers.

Another Taliban spokesman, Qari Yousaf Ahmadi, has more than 66,000 followers.

Twitter issued a blanket statement to questions about the radical Islamic militant group’s presence on the platform, but the company did not respond directly to the former president’s criticism.

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42 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

https://nypost.com/2021/08/19/afghan-moms-throw-babies-over-barbed-wire-to-uk-troops-at-airport/

 

Harrowing footage has emerged of Afghan mothers throwing their babies over barbed wire at Kabul airport as they begged British troops to save them from the Taliban.

“The mothers were desperate, they were getting beaten by the Taliban. They shouted, ‘Save my baby!’ and threw the babies at us. Some of the babies fell on the barbed wire,” a Parachute Regiment officer told the UK’s Independent.

“It was awful what happened. By the end of the night, there wasn’t one man among us who was not crying,” he added quietly.

The heartbreaking scene unfolded as locals also handed their children to US soldiers on the other side of an airport wall in hopes of getting them placed on evacuation flights from the embattled capital.

 

 

Truly awful. Pisses me off.  

No worries. Joe said we should expect some 'chaos'. It's all part of his plan. He's got this. WHAT A MESS!

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1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Say what? Yes, Biden is "responsible".  Not that that means much....it's just a word. I'm the President of my company, and yes, I am responsible too!  Does it mean that I make all the decisions about everything that goes on. Of course not. That's not the definition of 'responsible' as used in this context. Sheeeesh!

Of course he is responsible....he is the man. But in reality his production Mgr, sales Mgr. , quality Mgr. Paid consultants all with 20 yrs on the job said that the Afghani army was trained and capable, the enemy was not able to respond quickly and the sales goal was a piece of cake to reach.

So pres, after a number of question to his staff, including his trusted friends he took their advise.

Bang, sales missed, stock price drops 45%, he is responsible. But the rest should be fired.

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47 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

https://nypost.com/2021/08/19/trump-slams-twitter-for-allowing-taliban-but-banning-him-as-president/

 

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Trump slams Twitter for allowing Taliban but banning him as president

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Will Feuer

August 19, 2021 8:14am 

 Updated

Donald Trump has called the Taliban's presence on the site "disgraceful."Drew Angerer/Getty Images

MORE ON:TWITTER

TikToker shamed for ‘Forbes Friends List’ ranking friends by salary

Washington Post under fire for suggesting Taliban incite less violence than Trump

CNN’s Jeffrey Toobin ripped over column arguing against prosecuting Trump

Twitter says Taliban can stay on platform if they obey rules

Former President Donald Trump slammed Twitter for allowing the Taliban to use the social media platform to provide updates on their conquest of Afghanistan — as it stands by its decision to ban him from the site.

“It’s disgraceful when you think that you have killers and muggers and dictators and horrible — some horrible dictators and countries, and they’re all on but the president of the United States, who had hundreds of millions of people, by the way, he gets taken off,” Trump told Newsmax Wednesday in a phone interview.

While Trump has remained banned from the platform since the Jan. 6 Capitol riots, Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid has been allowed to post updates freely on the platform.

Mujahid’s unverified account, which was used to provide updates on the Taliban’s capture of Afghan cities as they aggressively took control of the country in days, has racked up more than 326,000 followers.

Another Taliban spokesman, Qari Yousaf Ahmadi, has more than 66,000 followers.

Twitter issued a blanket statement to questions about the radical Islamic militant group’s presence on the platform, but the company did not respond directly to the former president’s criticism.

Lets face it billstime and co. loves china, the taliban, criminals, drug users, but they deeply, deeply despise white trump voters, church goers, conservatives etc...

These are the only enemies standing in these freaks way.

 

 

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Just now, Niagara Bill said:

Of course he is responsible....he is the man. But in reality his production Mgr, sales Mgr. , quality Mgr. Paid consultants all with 20 yrs on the job said that the Afghani army was trained and capable, the enemy was not able to respond quickly and the sales goal was a piece of cake to reach.

So pres, after a number of question to his staff, including his trusted friends he took their advise.

Bang, sales missed, stock price drops 45%, he is responsible. But the rest should be fired.

You and I agree 100% there.  Somebody needs to lose their job.  And probably more than one.  But....here again, Mr. Biden is responsible, and therefore he's responsible for doing the firing.  What do you think? Will he fire anyone? I doubt it.

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1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

You and I agree 100% there.  Somebody needs to lose their job.  And probably more than one.  But....here again, Mr. Biden is responsible, and therefore he's responsible for doing the firing.  What do you think? Will he fire anyone? I doubt it.

I hope he does...but unlikely, the press would see it as passing the buck.

Glad we agree ....🙂

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1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

You and I agree 100% there.  Somebody needs to lose their job.  And probably more than one.  But....here again, Mr. Biden is responsible, and therefore he's responsible for doing the firing.  What do you think? Will he fire anyone? I doubt it.

 

I wish he'd fire himself.  But that would leave us with Kackling Kammy.  :rolleyes:

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1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said:

Of course he is responsible....he is the man. But in reality his production Mgr, sales Mgr. , quality Mgr. Paid consultants all with 20 yrs on the job said that the Afghani army was trained and capable, the enemy was not able to respond quickly and the sales goal was a piece of cake to reach.

So pres, after a number of question to his staff, including his trusted friends he took their advise.

Bang, sales missed, stock price drops 45%, he is responsible. But the rest should be fired.


He needs to do a press conference and take questions.   He’ll always own this, but he’s coming across as completely incapable of being President by acting like this.  

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1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

I wish he'd fire himself.  But that would leave us with Kackling Kammy.  :rolleyes:

 

DNC realizes she's as useful as a football bat.  Sending her packing to 'Nam to get her out-of-the-way.  Demented Biden basement style.  What an idiot.  We'd be better off with no Executive Branch at this point.  WAM.  

 

 

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Who elevated and legitimized the Taliban?

 

WELL OF COURSE - only the best:

 

 

PS: there was a reason why Trump and Pompeo cut a deal w the terrorists while the Afghan government we spent trillions building and supporting for 20 years HAD NO seat at the table…

 

What we are seeing today is all by design. 
 

The America First GQP version can go %^*=*  themselves.

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