Mikie2times Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: It has nothing to do with football is all. It shouldn't make him viewed any differently if he is or isn't. It shouldn't but it does. It also becomes relevant in a similar way it was in the services. If the most macho organizations in our society can accept somebody in the ways you suggest, it would show a lot of progress for society as a whole. The fact that this thread exists shows us we are not at that point yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflabillsfan1 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Augie said: ….and Jackie Robinson had nothing to do with baseball, I suppose? That's incredibly disrespectful to Jackie Robinson. 3 3 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, KzooMike said: It shouldn't but it does. It also becomes relevant in a similar way it was in the services. If the most macho organizations in our society can accept somebody in the ways you suggest, it would show a lot of progress for society as a whole. The fact that this thread exists shows us we are not at that point yet. I suppose, I grew up in a multi racial family with gay uncles in the 90s maybe I'm naive for thinking things like this are already normal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Just now, Southern_Bills said: I suppose, I grew up in a multi racial family with gay uncles in the 90s maybe I'm naive for thinking things like this are already normal. What part of FIRST ACTIVE OPENLY GAY PLAYER IN NFL HISTORY gives you the impression that this is already normal? 5 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: I can see that angle, and I understand others will make a bigger deal of it than he intended. It’s always a big deal when it’s the first. The hope is from here on out it’s not a big deal. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Just now, Jauronimo said: What part of FIRST ACTIVE OPENLY GAY PLAYER IN NFL HISTORY gives you the impression that this is already normal? I'm not sure, but when you typed it in all caps I think you brought me around to your way of thinking. 🙄 2 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Hopefully this lets any other players who have felt the need to hide, be more comfortable in disclosing (if they choose). But I also respect players' right to privacy, and honestly care very little about their personal lives. Ideally he will be accepted the same as before but unfortunately there are going to be some haters... there always are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Southern_Bills said: I'm not sure, but when you typed it in all caps I think you brought me around to your way of thinking. 🙄 I would suggest you read it again but this time slowly and in your loudest voice. 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: Good for him say what you want. A person is allowed and encouraged to be themselves by all means. However, In a shower room of 52 other players, that may not be accepted. Plain facts. I know girls in my school wouldn't want me showering with them. Knowing I like *****. Where do you draw the line?? What ever happened to don't kiss n tell?? jmo. Am I allowwd to say "flame away" on this?😏 3 1 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Just now, Jauronimo said: I would suggest you read it again but this time slowly and in your loudest voice. That will most likely make us agree, you are correct. Just because people have differences of opinion doesn't mean you have to be belligerent. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 38 minutes ago, Maynard said: Are you sure? Many a man got the boobies. You may be on the path to twig and berries and you don’t even know yet. https://fb.watch/6gTETr1lpZ/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: say what you want. A person is allowed and encouraged to be themselves by all means. However, In a shower room of 52 other players, that may not be accepted. Plain facts. I know girls in my school wouldn't want me showering with them. Knowing I like *****. Where do you draw the line?? What ever happened to don't kiss n tell?? jmo. Am I allowwd to say "flame away" on this?😏 Most people draw the line at suggesting that because he is gay he sees his teammates as sexual objects rather than football players. Where your line is I shudder to think. 8 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, just1hugheser said: billsfan dont get me wrong, i roll my eyes at some of the stuff that gets posted, but just because we are all bills fans doesn't mean are all lol 'woke' cant believe i just used that term but i think ya'll know what i mean. I don't think I do know what you mean. I routinely see fellow members of Bills Mafia pollute this board, facebook, and twitter with truly abhorrent posts on the topics of race and sexuality. Its hardly "woke" to call this out. 1 minute ago, Southern_Bills said: That will most likely make us agree, you are correct. Just because people have differences of opinion doesn't mean you have to be belligerent. Its not a difference of opinion. Words have clear and established meanings. Like normal for instance, "conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected." So when a player comes out and becomes the FIRST ACTIVE OPENLY GAY PLAYER IN NFL HISTORY that is anything but normal because its the first time in history that it has ever happened. This event is literally the antithesis of normal. Everything you have posted in this thread is completely incorrect 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Just now, GunnerBill said: Most people draw the line at suggesting that because he is gay he sees his teammates as sexual objects rather than football players. Where your line is I shudder to think. Whatever...shudder away. My point is, if you have one member openly seeking the opposite sex, within the confines of showering together, it MIGHT happen. an attraction at the very least. Is that mathematically improbable?? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Just now, Jauronimo said: Everything you have posted in this thread is completely incorrect Except his screen name, which somehow is straight out of central casting… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Shouldn’t even be news Great for him to feel comfortable enough to come out but it doesn't matter to me whether he's an NFL player or working at Wegmans. If nothing else it's great a player finally stepped forward and put their personal feelings over their professional lives on the line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, BuffAlone said: Whatever...shudder away. My point is, if you have one member openly seeking the opposite sex, within the confines of showering together, it MIGHT happen. an attraction at the very least. Is that mathematically improbable?? And this worries you or are you just explaining to us the mechanics of homosexual attraction and where it may occur? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, BuffAlone said: Whatever...shudder away. My point is, if you have one member openly seeking the opposite sex, within the confines of showering together, it MIGHT happen. an attraction at the very least. Is that mathematically improbable?? He might be attracted to a teammate - yes. That is possible. Unless he attempts to hit on the teammate how is it even relevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 He made a simple post about his sexuality, and he will be seen as a hero in the Gay community. Not that he may or may not want it, but that is what will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Just now, Jauronimo said: And this worries you or are you just explaining to us the mechanics of homosexual attraction and where it may occur? i could care less...just add another bathroom. I dont want 50+ members of the opposite sex watching me shower. do you? Espesially knowing they prefer what I got compared to the other gender. why play the bs? geronimoooooo!!!!! 1 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, soflabillsfan1 said: That's incredibly disrespectful to Jackie Robinson. Not AT ALL, in my opinion. I never equated that the two were equal. I’m just pointing out that being first is difficult, and that the other poster failed to recognize that. It is an important event in the story of the sport and our world. . Edited June 22, 2021 by Augie 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Just now, BuffAlone said: i could care less...just add another bathroom. I dont want 50+ members of the opposite sex watching me shower. do you? Espesially knowing they prefer what I got compared to the other gender. why play the bs? geronimoooooo!!!!! But he isn't of the opposite sex. He is of the same sex. And believe me - Carl Nassib ain't in the slightest bit interested in what you have got fella. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 From a team dynamics standpoint, I wonder if he came out to his team first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Just now, BuffAlone said: i could care less...just add another bathroom. I dont want 50+ members of the opposite sex watching me shower. do you? Espesially knowing they prefer what I got compared to the other gender. why play the bs? geronimoooooo!!!!! 50 women watching me shower and thirsting over what I got sounds like something so amazing that I'm not sure I can completely fathom it. I have no idea what this has to do with a gay man in a locker room full of other men and no clue what you're asking about BS, but for the record I love this scenario where 50 women desperately want me. 1 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewmylegoff Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Whatever...shudder away. My point is, if you have one member openly seeking the opposite sex, within the confines of showering together, it MIGHT happen. an attraction at the very least. Is that mathematically improbable?? Maybe, like the other 52 players, he just wants a wash? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewmylegoff Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Gay men have been using the same gym changing rooms and showers as straight men since…well forever, and it doesn’t seem to have resulted in a problem. I’m not sure why an NFL locker room environment would be any different… 7 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Mark Davis’s statement about it was classy - I don’t know how to embed a Tweet or I’d post it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Chewmylegoff said: Gay men have been using the same gym changing rooms and showers as straight men since…well forever, and it doesn’t seem to have resulted in a problem. I’m not sure why an NFL locker room environment would be any different… (not my opinion) but because you threaten the NFL because of homophobia. "this is a mans league and men don't like other men. They like beer and guns and Rambo and women". (in that order). Edited June 22, 2021 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I just want to take a moment to say I'm straight. Been meaning to say this for a while. I like boobs {Mitch Trubisky sings Breakfast at Tiffanys to Dablitzkrieg}: And as I recall I think, we both kind of liked it And I said well that's, the one thing we've got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: {Mitch Trubisky sings Breakfast at Tiffanys to Dablitzkrieg}: And as I recall I think, we both kind of liked it And I said well that's, the one thing we've got And you'll say we got nothing in common Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Mark Davis’s statement about it was classy - I don’t know how to embed a Tweet or I’d post it. 3 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Just now, Jauronimo said: Carl Nassib is a man. His teammates are men. Carl has showered with other men after football games and practices for years. Do you think coming out publicly means hes going to all of sudden start getting physically aroused by his teammates? This is exactly the reason coming out is huge for an NFL player. We live in a society that traditionally expects lies for the sake of making others comfortable, when the person forced to live the lie is doing nothing to hurt others. Our sense of “morality” has never been about living the prescribed way, rather just telling people you live the prescribed life for sake of show. We all benefit from a world with more honesty, and respect for staying true to oneself. Nassib being real about who he is does nothing to change the lives of his teammates. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Played Carl. His "meaning to do this for a while but finally feel comfortable" is something a lot of gay and bisexual people feel. The journey from: I don't want people to know, to I don't care if they do, to I am actively going to tell them, is different for everyone. Hope he has found or finds a guy that makes him happy. I hope there isn't a sad story behind the timing here. 5 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) Very happy for him. Everybody should get to live comfortably with who they are without judgment. But I'll be honest I hadn't heard of or can't remember him before this headline Edited June 22, 2021 by Another Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I just want to take a moment to say I'm straight. Been meaning to say this for a while. I like boobs There are quite a few guys on this forum with some healthy boobs. You should probably be more specific. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Just now, Another Fan said: Very happy for him. Everybody should get to live comfortably with who they are without judgment. But I'll be honest once I hadn't heard of or can't remember him before this headline If you watched the Browns Hard Knocks season, he was the one who taught the team about the rule of 72/compound interest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: If you watched the Browns Hard Knocks season, he was the one who taught the team about the rule of 72/compound interest He was. And after flaming out with the Browns as a day 2 pick he had a couple of nice years with Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Got a notification about it from the Athletic, clicked on it went to the comments....i was shocked by the amount of comments that had been flagged and removed Speaking on behalf of the TBD Mod Crew, we're, ah, Not Even A Bit Surprised My favorite: "If someone coming out makes you angry, you just might be an #######." 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: He was. And after flaming out with the Browns as a day 2 pick he had a couple of nice years with Tampa. Oh I see what you did there..... No I'm just messing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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