brianthomas Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just saw that clip of him training. 1st thing i thought of was, has he ever moved like that in a game for us? Like once? And i'm not talking about simply running off the field either lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, TroutDog said: I was shocked when I saw the video. I’m not sure how a guy that size takes on a C and G without getting blown off the line (which I witnessed on occasion happening previously when he was heavier). Perhaps they told him to slim down to increase speed and burst…that’s all I can think of. It’s typical for a guy that big to get down in weight when not playing because his goal for the last 18 months has been conditioning and getting faster and more explosive, not blocking OL. The team most likely gave him a regimen for when he’s not playing. Now that he’s 3 months from playing they will change the regimen to add weight. There was no reason for him to have the extra weight on while working out until now. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 I don't think anyone actually saw Star with the Bills. He's lost weight as he's gotten older. He was never fat. He looks the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Motorin' said: Reminded me of the stories about Gronk faking workout videos last year to satisfy the Bucs. I missed these stories, do tell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 If he is legitimately afraid of Covid bc of his heart condition, he’s smart to minimize his exposure as much as possible. I can’t blame him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s typical for a guy that big to get down in weight when not playing because his goal for the last 18 months has been conditioning and getting faster and more explosive, not blocking OL. The team most likely gave him a regimen for when he’s not playing. Now that he’s 3 months from playing they will change the regimen to add weight. There was no reason for him to have the extra weight on while working out until now. Not disputing that but wondering if this may the weight they want him to play at. With all of the talk about getting to the QB, there are multiple ways of doing so and I was wondering if, perhaps, they are adjusting to ‘burst’ as opposed to ‘girth’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 16 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Star has been a no-show at the voluntary OTA's so far and I was thinking he might actually choose to retire. Even McD appeared a bit irritated with his no-show. see https://heavy.com/sports/buffalo-bills/bills-defensive-anchor-leaning-retirement/ But he appears to be working out on his own (guess he has not heard of a guy named Jawuan Jones). Our space eater looks in great shape. We sorely missed him on the inside runs last season and I am glad he will now likely come during the mandatory minicamp. HIs replacements (Jefferson and Oliver) were at least 25 lbs lighter and quite easily run on. His leadership on that defensive line is also very underrated. He is the glue guy there. Coach Sal had more recent video 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, DJB said: I also think McDermott has a strict rule that he takes the baby away for himself as well. And gives it to Tom Donahoe so he can drink its blood. Edited June 11, 2021 by Doc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Star has never really been a wide bodied, ultra thick nose tackle….so I don’t know if he’s lighter or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Star has never really been a wide bodied, ultra thick nose tackle….so I don’t know if he’s lighter or not. True, he’s never been huge but I’m guessing he’s down a bit from his playing weight and will throw that back on over the next couple months when they give him his diet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 42 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I missed these stories, do tell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: True, he’s never been huge but I’m guessing he’s down a bit from his playing weight and will throw that back on over the next couple months when they give him his diet The beef on weck diet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: True, he’s never been huge but I’m guessing he’s down a bit from his playing weight and will throw that back on over the next couple months when they give him his diet Yep, makes sense. It's well known that summer and training camp is the best time to put on weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: The beef on weck diet? Nah, beef is too lean for the job. Pretty sure the Bar-Bill wings with blue cheese are about 300 calories apiece though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 41 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: True, he’s never been huge but I’m guessing he’s down a bit from his playing weight and will throw that back on over the next couple months when they give him his diet Here's Noah Spence on his diet at training camp to gain weight. 9,000 calories a day! https://www.espn.com/blog/tampa-bay-buccaneers/post/_/id/20957/nine-meals-9000-calories-a-day-helped-noah-spence-gain-35-pounds "Today was the heaviest I've ever been and I felt great. I was 263 today," said Spence, 24, whose goal was to put on the weight cleanly, with minimal gain in body fat. "I kind of just started playing with it [in the offseason] to see what works. I felt like if I just don't stop eating or drinking, I won't lose weight." https://www.nhpr.org/post/gain-weight-nfl-player-eats-7000-calories-day#stream/0 GREENE: Seven thousand calories. When training camp started, he weighed about 270 pounds, and he's trying to get up to 290. He's now halfway there - throwing back eight protein shakes a day a whole lot of chocolate milk - 10 more pounds to go before the Redskins season opener on September the 9th. My roommate in college was a tight end and he was doing this same thing during their summer camp. He was a freshman and wanted him to put on about 20-25 lbs by the end of camp...he was drinking an insane amount of shakes. We started making him buy his own milk lol because he was using way too much. He did it and we could see the difference every few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 19 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: This video was posted a little while back. Not sure what it means, other than Star is in fact training, and looks fairly lean. Whether and when he, who opted out last season due to COVID concerns (ostensibly), wants to report to the facility of a team whose roster is mostly unvaccinated (allegedly), remains to be seen. Maybe he should just get the shot himself. Just a thought. Still can’t believe most of these players are serious about not getting the vaccine at this point but then again they get paid to get hit in the head over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 6 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Hughes will get the baby back in February. It won't be able to sit up or crawl, but the little son of a @$&%# will be able to clap like nobody's business. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: The beef on weck diet? If only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 4 hours ago, TroutDog said: I was shocked when I saw the video. I’m not sure how a guy that size takes on a C and G without getting blown off the line (which I witnessed on occasion happening previously when he was heavier). Perhaps they told him to slim down to increase speed and burst…that’s all I can think of. That’s what a year away from Buffalo pizza and wings can do for you! This will resolve itself, I’m sure! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 54 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: Maybe he should just get the shot himself. Just a thought. Still can’t believe most of these players are serious about not getting the vaccine at this point but then again they get paid to get hit in the head over and over. For all you know, he has. But it's not 100%, which is why the NFL wants a certain % of players and staff to get vaxxed in order to relax protocols. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 I have a feeling that Star has something to prove this year!!! I think he's going to be great, barring injury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 I’m glad he doesn’t look like a tub of doo doo butter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 22 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said: This must be a doctored video!!!! I’ve read on this here page that Star is a worthless, lazy slug who is retiring 😎 Or maybe, those of us that said there was a rush to judgement might have judged right. This video means nothing to me except that he’s lost a lot of weight.....which is not necessarily a good thing. DTs and OL have to work very hard to keep their weight UP, not down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 shocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, NewEra said: This video means nothing to me except that he’s lost a lot of weight.....which is not necessarily a good thing. DTs and OL have to work very hard to keep their weight UP, not down. O and D lineman notoriously eat to put/ keep weight on while playing. Not a necessity when off for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: O and D lineman notoriously eat to put/ keep weight on while playing. Not a necessity when off for a year. And being light in the offseason doesn’t necessarily means he’s “in shape”. It just means he’s lost weight, which was a 💯 a given considering he has to work hard to keep his weight up. Time will tell, but to say that you’re right and everyone who said he would be out of shape is wrong is just a ridiculous tape.....especially based off a couple 10 sec Twitter videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Guy in red is listed at 320 carry on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 22 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said: This must be a doctored video!!!! I’ve read on this here page that Star is a worthless, lazy slug who is retiring 😎 Or maybe, those of us that said there was a rush to judgement might have judged right. Time will tell. I'm hoping he can come back in and be a solid contributor and sure up the D-Line. I can understand the other mindset as well. We had the best season in quite a while without him, so I think the onus is on him at this point. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, NewEra said: And being light in the offseason doesn’t necessarily means he’s “in shape”. It just means he’s lost weight, which was a 💯 a given considering he has to work hard to keep his weight up. Time will tell, but to say that you’re right and everyone who said he would be out of shape is wrong is just a ridiculous tape.....especially based off a couple 10 sec Twitter videos. Guess I’ll have to change my name to “Mr. Ridiculous”. Thanks for the constructive criticism oh Wise One😉 1 minute ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Time will tell. I'm hoping he can come back in and be a solid contributor and sure up the D-Line. I can understand the other mindset as well. We had the best season in quite a while without him, so I think the onus is on him at this point. The D didn’t have it’s best season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Guess I’ll have to change my name to “Mr. Ridiculous”. Thanks for the constructive criticism oh Wise One😉 The D didn’t have it’s best season. Didn't say the D did....I said the team did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Just now, RaoulDuke79 said: Didn't say the D did....I said the team did. But he’s the anchor of the middle of the D. If the D is able to do better ….. Super Bowl Baby💪💪💪 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo Boy said: But he’s the anchor of the middle of the D. If the D is able to do better ….. Super Bowl Baby💪💪💪 Yes, which is what I said. I hope he can come back and be a solid contributor and sure up the D-Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Time will tell. I'm hoping he can come back in and be a solid contributor and sure up the D-Line. I can understand the other mindset as well. We had the best season in quite a while without him, so I think the onus is on him at this point. The defense, which he is part of not offense or special teams, certainly did not have a good season although 2nd half was better than first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Here's Noah Spence on his diet at training camp to gain weight. 9,000 calories a day! https://www.espn.com/blog/tampa-bay-buccaneers/post/_/id/20957/nine-meals-9000-calories-a-day-helped-noah-spence-gain-35-pounds "Today was the heaviest I've ever been and I felt great. I was 263 today," said Spence, 24, whose goal was to put on the weight cleanly, with minimal gain in body fat. "I kind of just started playing with it [in the offseason] to see what works. I felt like if I just don't stop eating or drinking, I won't lose weight." Here's Noah Spence then getting released after getting zero sacks that season! https://www.bucsnation.com/2019/8/31/20842517/buccaneers-waive-noah-spence-2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Guess I’ll have to change my name to “Mr. Ridiculous”. Thanks for the constructive criticism oh Wise One😉 The D didn’t have it’s best season. It’s not as if I’m the only one to feel that way. You’re welcome 🍻 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 hour ago, NewEra said: This video means nothing to me except that he’s lost a lot of weight.....which is not necessarily a good thing. DTs and OL have to work very hard to keep their weight UP, not down. Well some do 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 32 minutes ago, Limeaid said: The defense, which he is part of not offense or special teams, certainly did not have a good season although 2nd half was better than first. Thanks for clearing this up for me. This changes my whole perspective, and quite frankly my whole outlook on this season. Now that I know he won't be returning punts or lining up in the I formation, I'm a little more at ease with the whole situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Where is my big fatty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Where is my big fatty? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 5 hours ago, NewEra said: This video means nothing to me except that he’s lost a lot of weight.....which is not necessarily a good thing. DTs and OL have to work very hard to keep their weight UP, not down. Do we KNOW that, though, from watching this short clip of a player wearing somewhat baggy layers? Claiming he's lost "a lot of weight" (emphasis mine) seems like a leap. I'll admit he looks trim for the over-simplified/possibly outdated role Bills fans envision for him, which is as a celestial body whose gravitational field incapacitates 1-3 blockers per running play. (Truly, though, he does look kinda lean. But do I accurately remember his training physique prior to last season? I don't know.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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