Royale with Cheese Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) It was a good discussion on WGR and boy, we've had a lot. To me, it's the JP Losman fumble against the Jets. BTW...preseason counts too. I forgot who the back up QB was but who got sacked and threw the ball backwards. Edited May 28, 2021 by Royale with Cheese 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Every qb that slide or ran oob on 4th down short of the 1st. At least the most gutless play for me. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Wide right. Nothing else is close. 17 13 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Greg S said: Wide right. Nothing else is close. Music City Miracle close second. Ronnie Harmon dopped pass gets on the podium in third. Edited May 28, 2021 by Irv 14 1 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: It was a good discussion on WGR and boy, we've had a lot. To me, it's the JP Losman fumble against the Jets. BTW...preseason counts too. I forgot who the back up QB was but who got sacked and threw the ball backwards. I was facing my best friend in the fantasy football playoffs that week. Losman gave his Jets defense 11 pts between this play and the subsequent desperation Hail Mary. I lost the matchup by 2….. This sequence still comes up when we see one another and the beers start flowing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) For whatever reason, I always think about Trent running out of bounds on 4th down, short of the 1st, against the Packers late in the game to turn it over and essentially end any chance of a comeback. Thankfully enough, this led to the emergence of Fitzmagic. Edited May 28, 2021 by Bangarang 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Greg S Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Irv said: Music City Miracle close second. That was a painful one as well but wide right was for a Super Bowl championship. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Greg S said: Wide right. Nothing else is close. To me, that is just a miss. The Losman fumble and McKelvin fumble were just pure stupidity....it shouldn't have happened. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 I still think about Bryce Brown fumbling out of the endzone for some reason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: For whatever reason, I always think about Trent running out of bounds on 4th down, short of the 1st, against the Packers late in the game to turn it over and essentially end any chance of a comeback Nathan Peterman did it against someone too. It was a hail mary attempt and he ran 30 yards down field and then out of bounds. 4 minutes ago, Irv said: Music City Miracle close second. Ronnie Harmon dopped pass gets a posium finish. Music City Miracle is a good one. Still can't believe half the field left their lanes and all followed the ball leaving the other side of the field wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Suff Not only was he a serial killer but he beat his two month child to death. Edited May 28, 2021 by The Jokeman 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 A couple of years ago, someone let a kickoff roll into the endzone and didn't bother to pick it up and take a knee. Instead, the opposing team (Jets, I think?) fell on it for a TD. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 This thread really lifted my spirits. How about everyone’s favorite mass murderer? I’m kinda fond of Dahmer. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 The Bills missed a FG late in the 4th quarter against Miami in the 1979 opener. They lost the game 9-7. That kick would have ended the streak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Worst play by a player, or worst result? Worst result, of course, would be wide right. That Losman fumble was horrible. Now, you've got Ed Rutkowski, emergency backup QB in the red zone against the Raiders, fumbling as the Bills are about to score the go-ahead touchdown. In terms of worst plays from a game perspective, that one's way up there. On the other hand, in terms of the team's future, it wasn't so bad. The Bills lost, secured the #1 overall pick and drafted OJ. So worst isn't always worst. Then there's Jim Braxton's fumble on Monday night football. Ferguson hits Ahmad Rashad for the go-ahead score inside two minutes. Bills defense holds, Raiders punt. Bills run three plays and run out the clock, right? No. Braxton fumbles, Raiders scoop and score. Worst play ever. Of course, Fergie then took the Bills on a long drive as time was running out and hit Rashad again for the game winner. How about Bills-Cowboys on Monday. The Bills defense absolutely invites the Cowboys to throw two quick sideline passes to get in range for the game-winning field goal on the last play. Absolutely worst end-of-game defensive scheme imaginable. Or, for that matter, the blown coverage on the onside kick immediately before those two passes. That may be the worst three-play stretch in Bills history. The worst play that was one of the best plays in history was Terence McGee stumbling and falling just short of the end zone on the kickoff return that ended the first half against the Saints. Best return ever, and it was useless. How about the Music City Miracle? 10 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I swear to God, House, if your posts were available only to Premium Members, everyone would pay extra. This is absolutely classic. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 The worst i ever saw in person was jeff tuel throwing a goalline pick 6 when stevie was wide open. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 https://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/17933/rex-ryan-bills-sign-qb-tyrod-taylor?platform=amp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 The play that stands out to me was the dropped punt in the 2007 Cleveland game, I feel like that really communicates the futility we felt as fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, Bangarang said: For whatever reason, I always think about Trent running out of bounds on 4th down, short of the 1st, against the Packers late in the game to turn it over and essentially end any chance of a comeback. Thankfully enough, this led to the emergence of Fitzmagic. I was at that game. I was so pissed. It was a completely meaningless play, but it was totally gutless. Gailey agreed with you and me. Oh, and whoever said, Ron Harmon has to be way up on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtnatefootball11 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Wide right and music city forward lateral are hard to argue against. The one that sticks out to me though as epitomizing the entire the Bills fortunes as a franchise is that Terrance McGee kick return against the Saints. It was probably the most impressive return in NFL history, only to fall short of the goal line to end the half with all those blockers around. I just stared at the screen for 20 minutes after, couldn't even move or speak. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiU-raWgu3wAhVKQzABHSX2BqUQwqsBMAB6BAgEEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DGlKJc_CLRpc&usg=AOvVaw3GhT9TfxQGS6f53RQb9DaA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, Greg S said: Wide right. Nothing else is close. I can't believe this isn't the #1 answer from everyone. Literally the most gutting thing ever. 26 minutes ago, Irv said: Ronnie Harmon dopped pass gets on the podium in third. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) Wide Rite - Norwoods missed kick in the first Bills SB - didnt hook back in as it did in warmups ? The Music City Mistake - took a review and boy was the close to being brought-back Ronnie Harmon half-ass attempt to catch a ball he said was un-catchable - 89 playoff game vs Browns Leodis McKelvin fumbling a kick-off return against Pats with 2 mins to go and giving Brady another opportunity to win...which he-they did. All those SB interceptions by Kelly - in comparison Montana threw zero in 4 SBs Edited May 28, 2021 by First Round Bust 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, HOUSE said: That depends on what your definition of "is," is. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA OC Bills Fan Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 How about double reverse and Andre Reed passes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, dneveu said: The worst i ever saw in person was jeff tuel throwing a goalline pick 6 when stevie was wide open. Most misunderstood play in Bills history. Tuel did exactly what he was supposed to do on that play, and Stevie did not. Tuel's job on that play was to see if his receiver got inside leverage off the line of scrimmage. If he did, Tuel was supposed to throw to a spot. Stevie's job was to break over the middle from the slot, so that the slot corner would follow him out of the space where the ball was going to be thrown. Stevie made one of his incredible separation moves off the line of scrimmage, so much so that the slot corner stumbled, leaving Stevie free to run into the end zone. However, after the stumble, the defender was standing right where the pass was going. Tuel didn't see the slot corner, because the QB is looking at the receiver, not at the place that he's going to lead the receiver to. The play was designed to assure that that zone would be empty - Stevie's move left someone in the zone. Yes, Stevie was wide open, but Tuel's first read was whether the receiver got the inside leverage - once he saw the inside leverage, Tuel didn't and wasn't supposed to look for Stevie. It's much like Russell Wilson's interception in the Super Bowl against the Patriots. Wilson saw the formation, saw his receiver get the inside leverage and threw it. That was his job. Wilson wasn't supposed to look to see if the defender was jumping the route; he didn't have time to look. Tuel didn't have time, either. It wasn't his job to look. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Most misunderstood play in Bills history. Tuel did exactly what he was supposed to do on that play, and Stevie did not. Tuel's job on that play was to see if his receiver got inside leverage off the line of scrimmage. If he did, Tuel was supposed to throw to a spot. Stevie's job was to break over the middle from the slot, so that the slot corner would follow him out of the space where the ball was going to be thrown. Stevie made one of his incredible separation moves off the line of scrimmage, so much so that the slot corner stumbled, leaving Stevie free to run into the end zone. However, after the stumble, the defender was standing right where the pass was going. Tuel didn't see the slot corner, because the QB is looking at the receiver, not at the place that he's going to lead the receiver to. The play was designed to assure that that zone would be empty - Stevie's move left someone in the zone. Yes, Stevie was wide open, but Tuel's first read was whether the receiver got the inside leverage - once he saw the inside leverage, Tuel didn't and wasn't supposed to look for Stevie. It's much like Russell Wilson's interception in the Super Bowl against the Patriots. Wilson saw the formation, saw his receiver get the inside leverage and threw it. That was his job. Wilson wasn't supposed to look to see if the defender was jumping the route; he didn't have time to look. Tuel didn't have time, either. It wasn't his job to look. Tuel made up for it after that. He was light's out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, vtnatefootball11 said: Wide right and music city forward lateral are hard to argue against. The one that sticks out to me though as epitomizing the entire the Bills fortunes as a franchise is that Terrance McGee kick return against the Saints. It was probably the most impressive return in NFL history, only to fall short of the goal line to end the half with all those blockers around. I just stared at the screen for 20 minutes after, couldn't even move or speak. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiU-raWgu3wAhVKQzABHSX2BqUQwqsBMAB6BAgEEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DGlKJc_CLRpc&usg=AOvVaw3GhT9TfxQGS6f53RQb9DaA Holy Jesus. I don't remember that but now it's in my brain..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 31 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I still think about Bryce Brown fumbling out of the endzone for some reason Beane and McDermott may not be here if he doesn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Most misunderstood play in Bills history. Tuel did exactly what he was supposed to do on that play, and Stevie did not. Tuel's job on that play was to see if his receiver got inside leverage off the line of scrimmage. If he did, Tuel was supposed to throw to a spot. Stevie's job was to break over the middle from the slot, so that the slot corner would follow him out of the space where the ball was going to be thrown. Stevie made one of his incredible separation moves off the line of scrimmage, so much so that the slot corner stumbled, leaving Stevie free to run into the end zone. However, after the stumble, the defender was standing right where the pass was going. Tuel didn't see the slot corner, because the QB is looking at the receiver, not at the place that he's going to lead the receiver to. The play was designed to assure that that zone would be empty - Stevie's move left someone in the zone. Yes, Stevie was wide open, but Tuel's first read was whether the receiver got the inside leverage - once he saw the inside leverage, Tuel didn't and wasn't supposed to look for Stevie. It's much like Russell Wilson's interception in the Super Bowl against the Patriots. Wilson saw the formation, saw his receiver get the inside leverage and threw it. That was his job. Wilson wasn't supposed to look to see if the defender was jumping the route; he didn't have time to look. Tuel didn't have time, either. It wasn't his job to look. He read zero blitz and threw it blindly. I don't think its all "jeff tuel is bad" either - just a poor play result that inevitably flipped the entire game around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, Reader said: The play that stands out to me was the dropped punt in the 2007 Cleveland game, I feel like that really communicates the futility we felt as fans. I was at that game. The fumble didn't bother me at all. It was, what, 3-3? Under two minutes left, Bills are heading toward the open end, with the wind their faces. So this was going to be the Bills' last possession (unless it goes to overtime, but the game was so miserable, everyone just wanted it to end). The Bills have only one playmaker - Roscoe Parrish, and returning punts was his best skill. Roscoe and everyone else in the stadium knew that Roscoe was the best chance the Bills had to score. Actually, he probably was the ONLY chance the Bills had to score. So Roscoe took a chance fielding a punt he would ordinarily have let bounce, and he muffed it. Browns recover gain 15 yards and win it with a field goal. I never blamed Roscoe for that play. He did exactly what I wanted him to do - try to catch that ball on the run and take off running. Didn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Then there's always this gem.... 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, dneveu said: He read zero blitz and threw it blindly. I don't think its all "jeff tuel is bad" either - just a poor play result that inevitably flipped the entire game around. He threw right to his receiver. It was a perfect throw. It just happened that a defender was standing there, a defender who was supposed be chasing Stevie into the end zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 45 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: It was a good discussion on WGR and boy, we've had a lot. To me, it's the JP Losman fumble against the Jets. BTW...preseason counts too. I forgot who the back up QB was but who got sacked and threw the ball backwards. I looked up this game to see the season - and man... losing 13-0 to matt cassel at the end of the year in a wind storm sounds absolutely agonizing to watch. They twice punted on 3rd down in that game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Irv said: Tuel made up for it after that. He was light's out. !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Worst play by a player, or worst result? Worst result, of course, would be wide right. That Losman fumble was horrible. Now, you've got Ed Rutkowski, emergency backup QB in the red zone against the Raiders, fumbling as the Bills are about to score the go-ahead touchdown. In terms of worst plays from a game perspective, that one's way up there. On the other hand, in terms of the team's future, it wasn't so bad. The Bills lost, secured the #1 overall pick and drafted OJ. So worst isn't always worst. Then there's Jim Braxton's fumble on Monday night football. Ferguson hits Ahmad Rashad for the go-ahead score inside two minutes. Bills defense holds, Raiders punt. Bills run three plays and run out the clock, right? No. Braxton fumbles, Raiders scoop and score. Worst play ever. Of course, Fergie then took the Bills on a long drive as time was running out and hit Rashad again for the game winner. How about Bills-Cowboys on Monday. The Bills defense absolutely invites the Cowboys to throw two quick sideline passes to get in range for the game-winning field goal on the last play. Absolutely worst end-of-game defensive scheme imaginable. Or, for that matter, the blown coverage on the onside kick immediately before those two passes. That may be the worst three-play stretch in Bills history. The worst play that was one of the best plays in history was Terence McGee stumbling and falling just short of the end zone on the kickoff return that ended the first half against the Saints. Best return ever, and it was useless. How about the Music City Miracle? This reminds me of Darick Holmes' fumble against the 49ers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Shaw66 said: He threw right to his receiver. It was a perfect throw. It just happened that a defender was standing there, a defender who was supposed be chasing Stevie into the end zone. The end result of the play is 100 yards the other way and 10-10. It means nothing either way, the team was bad that year. Just a game i was at and a memorably bad play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 One of my favorite worse plays is JA17s lateral in the Houston playoff game. Pure belligerence that still makes me smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) Not the worst in history, but as someone else mentioned above, that Leodis McKelvin kickoff return fumble against the Pats**** really stands out for me. Also, the botched onside kick against Dallas in that awesome but ultimately tragic MNF game. Edited May 28, 2021 by Rubes 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 43 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Well played sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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