Devin Singletary - Will he be playing for the Bills this year?

[Rockinon]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

So who of those guys would you class as an elite or even a top back, in those years?

 

 

Really?  How and when did they do that?

 

I doan think so Ceesco.

 

I don't think Moss is that quick to hit the hole.

Check thread titled "This Just in - Good Analysis of Moss & Singletary in 2020" The video is a pretty good watch.  I think so Cheeko....😄

 

The problem with Moss, he was hitting his hole before it opened up. Blocking scheme did change though, to accommodate his running style.

Edited April 12, 2021 by Rockinon

[dave mcbride]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Quick.  Name the starting RBs on the Patriots 6 SB victories.  For that matter, name the starting RBs on their 9 most recent SB appearances.

 

 

 

I can't name all of them, but a couple of these are easy. Ex-Bill Antowain Smith was the lead back for the first couple, and then Corey Dillon had monster season in 2004. First round pick Sony Michel had a great postseason run in 2018 too to go along with a strong rookie season. And there's always Legarrette Blount, who led the league in rushing TDs in 2016 and steamrolled the Bills a couple of times in the mid-2010s.

Edited April 12, 2021 by dave mcbride

[Patrick Duffy]

Kinda hard for me to think DS won't be a Bills this upcoming season. I mean he was a 3rd round pick and had a great year prior. I don't really count last season much due to the fact that all Bills RB's had a tough season. Not all on them either with bad blocking/scheme etc. Also Bills obviously didn't run very much at all last year. 

 

Hopefully all the RB's will have a big improvement this time around. In any event, I'd say I feel very confident he will be a Bill this year, also will say I think he ends up with similar numbers as he did the year before.

Edited April 12, 2021 by Patrick_Duffy

[Rocky Landing]

49 minutes ago, Boxcar said:

How is Breida similar to the other two in any way?

They all do best running to the side, and finding a hole. None of them are a true power back (Moss would be the closest thing). They had very similar production last season-- 4.3-4.4 ypc. They're all within 10 lbs, and 3" of each other. Certainly, Breida is the fastest. What sets them apart, IMO, is Breida's acceleration, and Moss's low center, and blocking ability. Would love to have a true power back.

[Utah John]

No way. A competent RB on his cheap rookie contract is not getting cut or traded.

 

Motor could stand to be better in pass blocking, which is the area where Moss is clearly better.  But as far as rushing the ball goes, they're both fine.  In a different offense not built around the passing game, either of them would be 1000 yard backs.  

[Estro]

Right on message today with his tweet. I'm pretty sure things are moving in a direction where Singletary won't be with the Bills this year.  Ginnitti is pretty keen on this stuff.

[Boxcar]

1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said:

They all do best running to the side, and finding a hole. None of them are a true power back (Moss would be the closest thing). They had very similar production last season-- 4.3-4.4 ypc. They're all within 10 lbs, and 3" of each other. Certainly, Breida is the fastest. What sets them apart, IMO, is Breida's acceleration, and Moss's low center, and blocking ability. Would love to have a true power back.

One of Singletary's best skills is reading holes and waiting for openings. He doesn't excel running outside at all. Both backs are much better blockers than Breida, and Breida is a better receiving target. He also has the speed to beat the defense to the outside that Moss and Singletary don't possess.

 

They fill completely different roles.

[Rocky Landing]

8 minutes ago, Boxcar said:

One of Singletary's best skills is reading holes and waiting for openings. He doesn't excel running outside at all. Both backs are much better blockers than Breida, and Breida is a better receiving target. He also has the speed to beat the defense to the outside that Moss and Singletary don't possess.

 

They fill completely different roles.

"...completely different roles." I certainly don't agree with that.

[Governor]

4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Quick.  Name the starting RBs on the Patriots 6 SB victories.  For that matter, name the starting RBs on their 9 most recent SB appearances.

 

 

I think Daboll is more flexible than you give him credit for, and at this point has earned enough respect that he can influence the active roster.

I do think that having Taiwan Jones as a primarily ST guy and one active WR as a primarily ST guy limits us quite a bit, and I don't see us moving away from that.

 

 

That’s easy.

 

Antoine Smith

[Da webster guy]

19 hours ago, Just Joshin' said:

There will be ma y disappointed people on April 29th when a RB is not selected and Singletary is a Bill in 2021.

 

Yeah because 4.8 ypc on 300 touches is just awful.

[frostbitmic]

Singletary could fill the Yeldon role on the non active gameday list.

[SirAndrew]

4 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

I can't name all of them, but a couple of these are easy. Ex-Bill Antowain Smith was the lead back for the first couple, and then Corey Dillon had monster season in 2004. First round pick Sony Michel had a great postseason run in 2018 too to go along with a strong rookie season. And there's always Legarrette Blount, who led the league in rushing TDs in 2016 and steamrolled the Bills a couple of times in the mid-2010s.

Good call, It’s true the Pats didn’t have superstar running backs, but they all contributed nicely to those teams. They were guys who fit the offense, and could make plays when needed. Moss and Singletary might be able to do so under the proper circumstances. The worry some have is the fact that Singletary and Moss play like they have led feet with absolutely no play making ability. I can’t name all the Pats dynasty running backs, but I know they always had someone on the roster who could break a big play. That’s what we lack in Singletary and Moss right now. 

[billybrew1]

On 4/11/2021 at 5:42 PM, Estro said:

Was listening to spotrac's most recent podcast w/ Mike Ginnitti & he casually mentioned he thinks Singletary is a trade candidate this offseason maybe even draft weekend.  Normally I'd just pass this off as speculation, but in listening to Ginnitti over the past few months it's pretty clear that he's got some connections.

 

He was talking about Trubisky possibly signing as a backup in Buffalo a few days before it happened. It seems a lot of his "ideas" on his podcast seem to come true, which makes it must listen for me.

 

He also mentioned that Breida might be viewed as a starter in Buffalo, which I found interesting. 

 

I happen to like the idea of trading Singletary because I just dont think he does anything well enough to not want to replace.  I'm not sure he'd be worth much of anything & I think the Bills would be fortunate to get anything more than a future 6th-7th rounder for him.

 

Just found it interesting that he casually mentioned Singletary as a trade candidate......after hearing it from his lips I now fully expect Singletary to be moved.

 

Hopefully it's a lesson learned for the Bills to stop blowing valuable top 100 draft picks on replacement level RBs.

I guess I'm in the minority but I saw special talent in Singletary as a rookie and I think we can easily regain that look. In the right scheme Singletary is a 5.? Yd/carry back on the year and that's exactly what you want. He'll get a ton of ten yards plus carries for his career, we just have to be patient and run him plus run the tight plays for him.

This Bills offense is still growing and we have to find the right run/pass ratios over a season still. We have to practice both the run and the pass to be good at both. With time, Daboll, Allen, their teammates and their coaches all working together, we can fine tune this thing to be more ready for anything. I, for one, Billieve we have enough talent at RB with the top five backs we currently are now carrying. Maybe draft another with a late round pick to combat extreme injuries.

 

I am also in the small percentage in thinking we do NOT have enough big talent at the WR position. We start three WRs and only one back. We currently have five interesting RBs for the mix as we plan no one back to start the season. We plan to run by committee and I wholeheartedly agree. We also plan to use three and four WR sets maybe more than any team in the league. I count three certifiable WRs on theBills roster or three WRs that can readily beat one on one coverage. The rest really cannot I don't think. If I'm in charge we have a WR by the third round absolutely and I don't blink if that's the guy in round one. We need more talent at WR for sure and definitely more than RB.

My dream offseason to come:

- Sign Ertz -we need the talent.

- Go WR, DT, CB in the first three picks of the draft. (All three positions are big needs where we can get guys that can help as rookies in this draft).

- Acquire bonafide NFL vet pass rusher (like Von Miller) prior to trade deadline. Make room in the cap and go for it!

Now we have hit all five positions this Bills team is currently weak at: DE, WR, TE, DT and CB with real solid players.

- Win SB.

- Rejoice

 

Go Bills!

[njbuff]

On 4/11/2021 at 10:41 PM, TheBrownBear said:

I don't think we are drafting a running back after the Breida signing.  I could see us moving Singletary during training camp if Williams flashes during camp.

 

That's the wild card during TC.

 

If they see Antonio Williams as more than a flash in the pan, Singletary could be moved during TC to a team that might need a RB. 

[Mango]

15 hours ago, gjv001 said:

I believe Beane's focus for this draft will be on improving the defense. That being, should two players of equal or close/equal board rating be available, the defensive player will get the nod. The one caveat, will be if Najee Harris is available at 30. I feel they will pick Harris over a closely rated defensive player. I think they like Harris enough to move up a couple spots to draft him. 

As opposed to what? 
 

He’s spent half of his top 100 picks on defense. He’s taken a defender either in the first round or with his first pick (Epeneza) in every draft he has run. 
 

We are near the very top of the league in spending for both DL and DB. 
 

If we extend Edmunds, we will be in the 5-10 range in spending on our LB’s. 
 

We have dedicated huge amounts of resources to “improving the D”. 

 

I like McBeane as a unit. They’ve done a great job holistically. Once we pay Allen, we absolutely cannot keep missing over and over again in FA and the draft like this. 

[machine gun kelly]

Mango, respectfully, we’ve filled holes effectively in FA and the draft.  Absolutely Addison, Jefferson, we’re underwhelming, but Morse, Feliciano, D. Williams, and so on were effective adds.  Diggs was a hit.Brown in 19 and Beasely overall were solid.  Hyde and Poyer have been fantastic as a tandem.

 

White, Edmunds, and Milano have all worked out as well as Dawkins, and after three years Allen.  I realize the 17 draft was before Beane by a week.

 

In perspective, this is a very good team, one of the most talented in the NFL and went 15-4 with a relatively difficult schedule.  We definitely need to improve to win the Championship, and there is no chance Beane drops Singletary as a rookie contract.  He may be dropped to the third position, but he’s cheap labor.  RB’s get hurt more than a lot of other positions.  
 

Like most, I was very disappointed in Singletary’s performance this year as his rookie year was solid, but his trade value is almost nothing.  

[Dablitzkrieg]

On 4/11/2021 at 8:44 PM, billsfan89 said:

I am 70% sure that Singletary, Moss and Breida are the RB's this team is going with. I think McBeane will focus heavily on the defense via the draft. I think 2 out of the 3 top picks will be on the defensive side of the ball and I can't see them burning a pick at RB in the first 5 rounds. I can live with the young cheap backfield. The issue this team has running is in my mind more attributed to scheme and injuries along the O-line. 

Please show your work.  I'd love to see how you cane up with "70%" 😛

[Thurman#1]

18 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

Singletary gets what he can between the tackles, and he's pretty good with those quick hitters, but because he really can't threaten a team outside, he's limited.

 

 

Every player is limited. The perfect player has yet to be invented. The question is whether he's effective. Singletary is effective.

 

He has hurt teams outside at times, with moves, but you're right that he doesn't have the kind of speed that makes him a home run threat.

[Thurman#1]

18 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Zay was tied for most targets on the team his rookie year with 74 and in his second year he increased that and led the team with 104 targets. He led the team in receptions at 56 and yards at 650 in his second year.

Are any of those great? Not really but one could argue he was showing promise. What is not in those stats though is all the drops.

 

All that said, I'd say there is a less than 10% chance Singletary is traded.

 

 

 

You don't show promise with targets. You show promise with what you do with the targets.

 

And producing 56 catches and 650 yards ... on 102 targets? That's not promising. It doesn't preclude great improvement later, but that's just not good.

 

He was 34th in the league in targets and ranked

... 58th in the league in receptions

... 61st in the league in yards.

 

That's not promising.

 

And yeah, he led the team in targets, receptions and yards but that wasn't so much promise as a complete lack of talent at receiver. The other recievers on that team were Kelvin Benjamin in pure meltdown mode, Deonte Thompson, Robert Foster the year they realized he wasn't good, Andre Holmes, Kerley was active for one game, the last game of his career, RayRay McCloud racked up 36 yards, Isaiah McKenzie with 179 yards, Cam Phillips had one reception on one target for 9 yards, Terrelle Pryor was on the team but had zero offensive snaps, and Da'Mari Scott.

 

Zay may have been the best of them, but that ain't murderer's row.

 

 

 

Agreed that the chances of a trade are quite low.

 

 

14 hours ago, Utah John said:

No way. A competent RB on his cheap rookie contract is not getting cut or traded.

 

Motor could stand to be better in pass blocking, which is the area where Moss is clearly better.  But as far as rushing the ball goes, they're both fine.  In a different offense not built around the passing game, either of them would be 1000 yard backs.  

 

 

Moss is really excellent at pass blocking. Singletary's not as good, but he's still quite good at it.

 

I would agree with the rest of your post.

[Back2Buff]

I am confident Beane panicked on this pick and would love to get rid of him.

 

David Montgomery was the far superior prospect.  He goes right before the pick and Beane knows he needs a RB because they are getting rid of McCoy.  He takes the guy he didn't really love, because he panicked. 

 

Singletary just isn't very good.  From his concrete feet, to stone hands, the guy doesn't not fit in to today's NFL.

[Ralonzo]

4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

Every player is limited. The perfect player has yet to be invented. The question is whether he's effective. Singletary is effective.

 

He has hurt teams outside at times, with moves, but you're right that he doesn't have the kind of speed that makes him a home run threat.

 

It just seems far too often when he tries to bounce outside the tackle and someone just grabs his shoe and drops him.

[Mango]

8 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

Mango, respectfully, we’ve filled holes effectively in FA and the draft.  Absolutely Addison, Jefferson, we’re underwhelming, but Morse, Feliciano, D. Williams, and so on were effective adds.  Diggs was a hit.Brown in 19 and Beasely overall were solid.  Hyde and Poyer have been fantastic as a tandem.

 

White, Edmunds, and Milano have all worked out as well as Dawkins, and after three years Allen.  I realize the 17 draft was before Beane by a week.

 

In perspective, this is a very good team, one of the most talented in the NFL and went 15-4 with a relatively difficult schedule.  We definitely need to improve to win the Championship, and there is no chance Beane drops Singletary as a rookie contract.  He may be dropped to the third position, but he’s cheap labor.  RB’s get hurt more than a lot of other positions.  
 

Like most, I was very disappointed in Singletary’s performance this year as his rookie year was solid, but his trade value is almost nothing.  

I was speaking specifically to the first sentence, which was that the draft will be focused on defense. My issue with that is is we have focused a ton on defense with high draft picks and huge allocations for the cap.
 

In regards to LB working out, I sort of agree. It isn’t a bad unit. But I am not sure we will get enough value moving forward. Edmunds is projecting to get $15M. Between Edmunds and Milano, that would make that group something like the 5th highest paid unit in the league. But they’re nowhere near the 5th best unit. 
 

I don’t think they cut Singletary. But I do think there is a chance they trade him on draft day. 

[machine gun kelly]

3 minutes ago, Mango said:

I was speaking specifically to the first sentence, which was that the draft will be focused on defense. My issue with that is is we have focused a ton on defense with high draft picks and huge allocations for the cap.
 

In regards to LB working out, I sort of agree. It isn’t a bad unit. But I am not sure we will get enough value moving forward. Edmunds is projecting to get $15M. Between Edmunds and Milano, that would make that group something like the 5th highest paid unit in the league. But they’re nowhere near the 5th best unit. 
 

I don’t think they cut Singletary. But I do think there is a chance they trade him on draft day. 

Fair enough friend.  Don’t forget Milano had a Spotrac value of $13.75 mil. and took $11 mil. If, big if he plays the whole season.  Sal broke that down he could get less if he has another season missing several games.  As far as motor, which I hate saying at this point, I just don’t see a taker.  You’re right if we draft someone he definitely could be on the block, but someone has to want him.  The question is who.  I guess what teams desperately need a RB, that would help our draft position.  The only one I can think of is Pittsburgh, but do they value motor to trade from 24 to 30, and what do we have to give back.  They need linemen desperately.  They lost three.  I don’t see that happening, but they need help for Big Ben.

[Rocky Landing]

9 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

Mango, respectfully, we’ve filled holes effectively in FA and the draft.  Absolutely Addison, Jefferson, we’re underwhelming, but Morse, Feliciano, D. Williams, and so on were effective adds.  Diggs was a hit.Brown in 19 and Beasely overall were solid.  Hyde and Poyer have been fantastic as a tandem.

 

White, Edmunds, and Milano have all worked out as well as Dawkins, and after three years Allen.  I realize the 17 draft was before Beane by a week.

 

In perspective, this is a very good team, one of the most talented in the NFL and went 15-4 with a relatively difficult schedule.  We definitely need to improve to win the Championship, and there is no chance Beane drops Singletary as a rookie contract.  He may be dropped to the third position, but he’s cheap labor.  RB’s get hurt more than a lot of other positions.  
 

Like most, I was very disappointed in Singletary’s performance this year as his rookie year was solid, but his trade value is almost nothing.  

I'm going to disagree with you here. If Singletary drops to third string, and If they draft Najee Harris, or if they pick up a decent power back/downhill runner in FA, then what? Would they keep five RBs? Who else would they drop? (Assuming special-teamer Jones is safe.) Doubt it. I know that's a lot of "ifs," but none of them are entirely unlikely "ifs." JMO. 

[machine gun kelly]

38 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

I'm going to disagree with you here. If Singletary drops to third string, and If they draft Najee Harris, or if they pick up a decent power back/downhill runner in FA, then what? Would they keep five RBs? Who else would they drop? (Assuming special-teamer Jones is safe.) Doubt it. I know that's a lot of "ifs," but none of them are entirely unlikely "ifs." JMO. 

Rock, I just don’t see anyone considering him an add at draft day after last year.  He’s not that valuable on the trade market.  That’s all.

[Mango]

1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said:

Fair enough friend.  Don’t forget Milano had a Spotrac value of $13.75 mil. and took $11 mil. If, big if he plays the whole season.  Sal broke that down he could get less if he has another season missing several games.  As far as motor, which I hate saying at this point, I just don’t see a taker.  You’re right if we draft someone he definitely could be on the block, but someone has to want him.  The question is who.  I guess what teams desperately need a RB, that would help our draft position.  The only one I can think of is Pittsburgh, but do they value motor to trade from 24 to 30, and what do we have to give back.  They need linemen desperately.  They lost three.  I don’t see that happening, but they need help for Big Ben.

 

52 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

I'm going to disagree with you here. If Singletary drops to third string, and If they draft Najee Harris, or if they pick up a decent power back/downhill runner in FA, then what? Would they keep five RBs? Who else would they drop? (Assuming special-teamer Jones is safe.) Doubt it. I know that's a lot of "ifs," but none of them are entirely unlikely "ifs." JMO. 

 

I am not sure Singletary has much of a value as a pick alone. I think he might get some utility in navigating up in a round. Say the Bills want to move from 93 to 87 in the 3rd to get ahead of Cleveland. Singletary might be work the 7 spots there depending on what Pittsburgh's board looks like. 
 

[benderbender]

As good a wheeler and dealer as Beane is, the rest of the league saw the playoffs and how one dimensional our offense was. Getting any kind of value in return for him is doubtful. The only scenario I would foresee is a package deal with picks.

[Rocky Landing]

1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said:

Rock, I just don’t see anyone considering him an add at draft day after last year.  He’s not that valuable on the trade market.  That’s all.

 

1 hour ago, Mango said:

 

 

I am not sure Singletary has much of a value as a pick alone. I think he might get some utility in navigating up in a round. Say the Bills want to move from 93 to 87 in the 3rd to get ahead of Cleveland. Singletary might be work the 7 spots there depending on what Pittsburgh's board looks like. 
 

 

 

I'm looking forward to next season. I certainly doubt Motor will be traded going into the draft, and I agree he's not going to be much of a factor in draft trade negotiations. But, imagine we go into TC with a RB room that includes Breida, Motor, Moss, and Najee Harris (not to mention Jones, Williams, and Wade). I have a hard time believing that Motor is safe in that scenario. 

 

In fact, even if we don't draft an RB, and go into TC with the current roster at RB, is it outside the realm of possibility that Antonio Williams, who is 10+ lbs heavier than any other RB on the roster, and showed out well in the few touches he got, could establish himself as the downhill powerback that we lacked last season?

 

Bottom line: Motor should be feeling a bit of pressure right about now.

[Alphadawg7]

On 4/11/2021 at 5:42 PM, Estro said:

Was listening to spotrac's most recent podcast w/ Mike Ginnitti & he casually mentioned he thinks Singletary is a trade candidate this offseason maybe even draft weekend.  Normally I'd just pass this off as speculation, but in listening to Ginnitti over the past few months it's pretty clear that he's got some connections.

 

He was talking about Trubisky possibly signing as a backup in Buffalo a few days before it happened. It seems a lot of his "ideas" on his podcast seem to come true, which makes it must listen for me.

 

He also mentioned that Breida might be viewed as a starter in Buffalo, which I found interesting. 

 

I happen to like the idea of trading Singletary because I just dont think he does anything well enough to not want to replace.  I'm not sure he'd be worth much of anything & I think the Bills would be fortunate to get anything more than a future 6th-7th rounder for him.

 

Just found it interesting that he casually mentioned Singletary as a trade candidate......after hearing it from his lips I now fully expect Singletary to be moved.

 

Hopefully it's a lesson learned for the Bills to stop blowing valuable top 100 draft picks on replacement level RBs.

The only way I think Devin would be a trade candidate is if either one of Antonio Williams or Christian Wade stand out and make a big case for the active roster.  
 

Breida has had injury issues and Moss is coming off one himself.  Meanwhile Devin has done well and stayed on the field mostly.  
 

I personally don’t get the amount of heat Devin takes around here.  His career YPC is very good, and he is elusive.  Our run scheme is a much bigger issue than our RBs are in terms of rush yardage production.  We are a pass first team and constantly running out of unconventional formations and our OL was terrible at run blocking out of these schemes last year.
 

Im not saying Devin is like a top tier RB, but the kid has been effective and I’ve watched him pick up first downs and big chunk plays where most RBs would have lost yardage.  
 

He may not have elite speed, but he is very elusive and that impacts positive gains a lot more than straight line speed which is HIGHLY dependent on run blocking.

 

I honestly feel like the Devin heat got turned up around here substantially because of the big screen drop he had in the playoffs.  But a lot of players made a lot more mistakes than him that game that led to our demise.  If he catches that screen it doesn’t change the outcome even if he scores.  We literally could not remotely cover Hill and Kelce, and we were utterly dominated in the trenches...there was just no way we were going to win that way regardless of that play.

 

So for me...I can see Devin potentially being expendable if they feel that AW or Wade has earned themselves a spot and want one on the active roster. Otherwise, we are gonna roll with the trio of Devin, Moss, and Breida this year IMHO.

[billsfan89]

14 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Please show your work.  I'd love to see how you cane up with "70%" 😛

I called in a math professor after I factored in Kurt Angle to the equation.

 

 

[Rocky Landing]

3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

The only way I think Devin would be a trade candidate is if either one of Antonio Williams or Christian Wade stand out and make a big case for the active roster.  
 

Breida has had injury issues and Moss is coming off one himself.  Meanwhile Devin has done well and stayed on the field mostly.  
 

I personally don’t get the amount of heat Devin takes around here.  His career YPC is very good, and he is elusive.  Our run scheme is a much bigger issue than our RBs are in terms of rush yardage production.  We are a pass first team and constantly running out of unconventional formations and our OL was terrible at run blocking out of these schemes last year.
 

Im not saying Devin is like a top tier RB, but the kid has been effective and I’ve watched him pick up first downs and big chunk plays where most RBs would have lost yardage.  
 

He may not have elite speed, but he is very elusive and that impacts positive gains a lot more than straight line speed which is HIGHLY dependent on run blocking.

 

I honestly feel like the Devin heat got turned up around here substantially because of the big screen drop he had in the playoffs.  But a lot of players made a lot more mistakes than him that game that led to our demise.  If he catches that screen it doesn’t change the outcome even if he scores.  We literally could not remotely cover Hill and Kelce, and we were utterly dominated in the trenches...there was just no way we were going to win that way regardless of that play.

 

So for me...I can see Devin potentially being expendable if they feel that AW or Wade has earned themselves a spot and want one on the active roster. Otherwise, we are gonna roll with the trio of Devin, Moss, and Breida this year IMHO.

This is all a perfectly reasonable take. But, personally, my own misgivings about Singletary don't stem from that play. I had forgotten all about that play until you brought it up.

 

My thoughts are where Singletary currently sits on the depth chart. Moss has proven himself to be an exceptional blocker in pass protection. Considering our pass-heavy offense, that probably puts him on the field more than any other RB on the roster. And, in an open competition, who wins the role of feature back? If it's Breida (and I suspect it will be), where does that put Motor? And if they decide that they want a heavier, downhill powerback (Antonio Williams? Najee Harris? Some other FA?), and they don't think Moss fits that bill, then where does that place Singletary? 

 

Honestly, I think you're probably right: Breida, Moss, Devin (and Jones for ST) will probably make up the RB room. But, I think those in this thread who are stating that there's "no way" Motor is cut are off the mark. There are plenty of reasonable scenarios where, come September, Motor ends up redundant on this offense, and being a third-round pick on a rookie contract ain't gonna save him from that.

[Turk71]

The Bills run blocking was terrible. In yards before contact per rushing attempt they were 31st in the league. 

  The things they were good at, yards after contact per carry (tied for 2nd) and breaking tackles (10th in %); were entirely attributable to the running backs.

 From 2nd last in yards before contact to 2nd best in yards after, it's pretty obvious what the run game lacks. I'm not saying Singletary and Moss are the answer at running back, I think that remains to be seen. I'm saying the Bills run blocking is practically the worst in the league and for me that's where it starts.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/advanced.htm

Edited April 13, 2021 by Turk71

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said:

This is all a perfectly reasonable take. But, personally, my own misgivings about Singletary don't stem from that play. I had forgotten all about that play until you brought it up.

 

My thoughts are where Singletary currently sits on the depth chart. Moss has proven himself to be an exceptional blocker in pass protection. Considering our pass-heavy offense, that probably puts him on the field more than any other RB on the roster. And, in an open competition, who wins the role of feature back? If it's Breida (and I suspect it will be), where does that put Motor? And if they decide that they want a heavier, downhill powerback (Antonio Williams? Najee Harris? Some other FA?), and they don't think Moss fits that bill, then where does that place Singletary? 

 

Honestly, I think you're probably right: Breida, Moss, Devin (and Jones for ST) will probably make up the RB room. But, I think those in this thread who are stating that there's "no way" Motor is cut are off the mark. There are plenty of reasonable scenarios where, come September, Motor ends up redundant on this offense, and being a third-round pick on a rookie contract ain't gonna save him from that.

 

Reasonable reply yourself, but my only thing I would strongly disagree is the idea that Devin could be "cut".  Nothing is impossible, but given Beanes ability to get draft assets for players who really are fringe roster players at best, there is just no way he doesn't trade Devin at that point and get some value back.  Not saying you are suggesting he could be cut, your response was a little vague in that retrospect.  But I have seen others say it before, and your reply kind of left room for that possibility.  

 

I dont think its impossible Devin could be traded though, but again, its only if we either A) Draft someone in first 2 rounds (highly doubt it though) or B) AW or Wade comes out and impresses enough to earn a full time roster spot.  If either of those 2 scenarios do not happen, then Devin becomes a virtual lock for the roster.  However, if either of them happen, he is 100% going to be on the hot seat and need to turn some heads and fight for his spot here.  

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On 4/11/2021 at 8:42 PM, Estro said:

Was listening to spotrac's most recent podcast w/ Mike Ginnitti & he casually mentioned he thinks Singletary is a trade candidate this offseason maybe even draft weekend.  Normally I'd just pass this off as speculation, but in listening to Ginnitti over the past few months it's pretty clear that he's got some connections.

 

He was talking about Trubisky possibly signing as a backup in Buffalo a few days before it happened. It seems a lot of his "ideas" on his podcast seem to come true, which makes it must listen for me.

 

He also mentioned that Breida might be viewed as a starter in Buffalo, which I found interesting. 

 

I happen to like the idea of trading Singletary because I just dont think he does anything well enough to not want to replace.  I'm not sure he'd be worth much of anything & I think the Bills would be fortunate to get anything more than a future 6th-7th rounder for him.

 

Just found it interesting that he casually mentioned Singletary as a trade candidate......after hearing it from his lips I now fully expect Singletary to be moved.

 

Hopefully it's a lesson learned for the Bills to stop blowing valuable top 100 draft picks on replacement level RBs.

 

Don't know what you got til it's gone.

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It seems to me that Beane has got himself set up for the draft pretty well.

I can see a lot of positions being in the BPA category especially from Round 2 on.

I think RB could be one of those.