MAJBobby Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) reason: best pure Athlete in the Draft IMO. Size Speed off the charts. He will be at 30 because of the limited games (20). Former Basketball player but very raw in football. Can be perfect for a team that can bring him along slowly and I think the Bills can afford that. If he had more games he would not make it out of the top 10. they did it with QB and MLB. Now Beane goes the same model at the DE of the future. I have him graded as the 35th best player in the draft. will have to add maybe 10 pounds as a 4-3 DE but has the frame to do that. Rookie season a spot rusher while learning. Ceiling it super high and if developed properly I think by year 3 people will put him in the elite DE talk. i really just wish he didn’t run this 40 though as now may go earlier than I was hoping. Before this 40 he was going to be there at 30. Now I am sure there are teams thinking the same let’s take him at 22 and see what we can develop with that natural god given talent. Edited March 26, 2021 by MAJBobby 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 that is a strong looking dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I like Oweh, but I wonder if he’ll even get to us. Some smart people are putting him as the best DE in the class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, whatdrought said: I like Oweh, but I wonder if he’ll even get to us. Some smart people are putting him as the best DE in the class. I think he will end up being there. But is so raw and that is why I think he goes lower than he should. Well at least that is what I am hoping but his 40 probably doesn’t help my hope 😭. Because where you slot him in this class is going to be based all of what you think his floor is compared to his high ceiling. And not a lot of production. It is truly a projection pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 An inexperienced DE from PSU. What could go wrong? 13 1 1 28 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: An inexperienced DE from PSU. What could go wrong? Maybin wasn’t even close to Oweh athletic profile. And we are talking 30 not 11. inexperienced athletic Gifted QB traded up for how did that work out? Edited March 26, 2021 by MAJBobby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, MAJBobby said: I think he will end up being there. But is so raw and that is why I think he goes lower than he should. Well at least that is what I am hoping but his 40 probably doesn’t help my hope 😭. Because where you slot him in this class is going to be based all of what you think his floor is compared to his high ceiling. And not a lot of production. It is truly a projection pick. I saw someone compare him to Danielle Hunter as far as “no production, all the projection” and obviously people regret letting Hunter get to the 3rd. either way, Oweh is either there and may be a nice pick for us, or his rise pushes some other talent down for us. Just now, MAJBobby said: Maybin wasn’t even close to Oweh athletic profile. Maybin weighed 165 pounds soaking wet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 NO. PSU homer here. Hard pass. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Ugh. Now I’m down that anger rabbit hole. Maybin over Orakpo is still the worst drought era draft decision to me. It was never even defendable because everyone knew Orakpo was a better prospect. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 He plays soft, yes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: There were quite a few of those draft blunders. Whitner, TJ Graham, Spiller, Maybin. Just awful. My Favorite was the Trade Up for McCargo 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Awesome athlete/Bad football player. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 He can run fast in a straight line but can he pressure the QB. If he can, why isn’t he a top 10 pick? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 Has anyone been able to find the 10 yard split. I have been looking and cannot find it. Would really be interested in that number. Just now, Bangarang said: He can run fast in a straight line but can he pressure the QB. If he can, why isn’t he a top 10 pick? 20 games young at Football. Was a Basketball player. 2 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Awesome athlete/Bad football player. Considering only been playing football 2 years we expect a fully honed Football Player? And then Opted out this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just...no 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) some more numbers arms measuring 34.5 inches 39.5-inch vertical jump 11 feet, 2 inches broad jump. Just now, bills_fan said: Just...no Ok tel me why? What are you knocks on him? Edited March 26, 2021 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Ugh. Now I’m down that anger rabbit hole. Maybin over Orakpo is still the worst drought era draft decision to me. It was never even defendable because everyone knew Orakpo was a better prospect. I hated that pick but Whitner over Ngata is every bit as awful, I’d argue worse since ngata is a 1st ballot HOFer 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Has anyone been able to find the 10 yard split. I have been looking and cannot find it. Would really be interested in that number. 20 games young at Football. Was a Basketball player. Considering only been playing football 2 years we expect a fully honed Football Player? And then Opted out this year. Which screams maybe the guy figures it out in a contract year if ever. There's development then there's maybe waaaaay later. It's a no for me dawg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I really dont want to just auto take Penn State off the menu just because of Aaron Maybin 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Insane testing numbers, really underwhelming tape. I guess I’d say if he’s our pick at 30 at least he’s basically all upside. That said, actively hoping he’s someone else’s problem and pushes a Paye/Phillips/Ossai to us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 He is a great athlete (amazing really), and the type of numbers he put up translate well into someone who will produce well in the NFL. But I don’t think you are getting someone who can be a great Joey Bosa type of DE. I think you are getting someone with maybe a Ziggy Ansah type of profile, very athletic and very raw but who had some pretty good - though short - success. I think I’d prefer other areas at 30 and go with some other DE later in the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, TheBeaneBandit said: Which screams maybe the guy figures it out in a contract year if ever. There's development then there's maybe waaaaay later. It's a no for me dawg. So in 2017 as a Frosh had 2 sacks. 2019 as a SO had 5 Sacks. 2020 Opted out. there is production trending up for him I don’t really think it will be a long development at all and would play in Epenesa Roll this year rotational learning more than playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I’ll take Ossai.... DE/OLB Lorax type guy. Can play off the ball and rush from either side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, LEBills said: He is a great athlete (amazing really), and the type of numbers he put up translate well into someone who will produce well in the NFL. But I don’t think you are getting someone who can be a great Joey Bosa type of DE. I think you are getting someone with maybe a Ziggy Ansah type of profile, very athletic and very raw but who had some pretty good - though short - success. I think I’d prefer other areas at 30 and go with some other DE later in the draft. Or as mentioned above you are getting A Hunter type and shall we see how many wanted to trade for him and still do? Question is do you Trust McD and his coaches to develop him???? I think they may have just earned that trust. Edited March 26, 2021 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) I workout warrior with limited experience. I am sure there are many projected very good starters left. Pick a developmental guy later. Edited March 26, 2021 by Bob in STL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: So in 2017 as a Frosh had 2 sacks. 2019 as a SO had 5 Sacks. 2020 Opted out. He didn't opt out. He played 7 games this year and had a whopping 0 sacks. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, gobills404 said: He didn't opt out. He played 7 games this year and had a whopping 0 sacks. He opted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, MAJBobby said: He opted out. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jayson-oweh-1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, gobills404 said: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jayson-oweh-1.html Opts out. Then opts in. So NO camp. Training for draft. And the team was bad. Yeah cool. Still at 30 there isn’t many other players I would take and definitely not one of these RBs people drool over. Now have you watched him play. or one of those Stat Scouts Just read Gils top 100. Has him at 16. Wow more respect for him than I have Edited March 26, 2021 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Or as mentioned above you are getting A Hunter type and shall we see how many wanted to trade for him and still do? Question is do you Trust McD and his coaches to develop him???? I think they may have just earned that trust. The reason I didn’t say hunter was because even though his sack production wasn’t there he started for most of two years. Oweh’s biggest concern is just that he is raw and would be getting by mostly on his athleticism. Ziggy Ansah was a really good player and I think most people would be happy with that level of player at 30. If Beane and McDermott draft him I will be excited and hope they can develop him well. But he has a long road ahead of him. His athleticism does give him a chance though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Seems like a reach as a 1st rounder 18 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: So in 2017 as a Frosh had 2 sacks. 2019 as a SO had 5 Sacks. 2020 Opted out. there is production trending up for him I don’t really think it will be a long development at all and would play in Epenesa Roll this year rotational learning more than playing. Not sure you have the right player here. He didn’t opt out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 34 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: There were quite a few of those draft blunders. Whitner, TJ Graham, Spiller, Maybin. Just awful. I wish we had Spiller on this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 40 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Ugh. Now I’m down that anger rabbit hole. Maybin over Orakpo is still the worst drought era draft decision to me. It was never even defendable because everyone knew Orakpo was a better prospect. Ironically, the rest of that draft was pretty damn good. Eric Wood, Jairus Byrd & Andy Levitre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Not for me thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, LEBills said: The reason I didn’t say hunter was because even though his sack production wasn’t there he started for most of two years. Oweh’s biggest concern is just that he is raw and would be getting by mostly on his athleticism. Ziggy Ansah was a really good player and I think most people would be happy with that level of player at 30. If Beane and McDermott draft him I will be excited and hope they can develop him well. But he has a long road ahead of him. His athleticism does give him a chance though. Not only is he raw but he turns 23 in December. I would be all about taking a chance on him somewhere but not in the first round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: reason: best pure Athlete in the Draft IMO. Size Speed off the charts. He will be at 30 because of the limited games (20). Former Basketball player but very raw in football. Can be perfect for a team that can bring him along slowly and I think the Bills can afford that. If he had more games he would not make it out of the top 10. they did it with QB and MLB. Now Beane goes the same model at the DE of the future. I have him graded as the 35th best player in the draft. will have to add maybe 10 pounds as a 4-3 DE but has the frame to do that. Rookie season a spot rusher while learning. Ceiling it super high and if developed properly I think by year 3 people will put him in the elite DE talk. i really just wish he didn’t run this 40 though as now may go earlier than I was hoping. Before this 40 he was going to be there at 30. Now I am sure there are teams thinking the same let’s take him at 22 and see what we can develop with that natural god given talent. Somebody was listening to One Bills Live today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, ChevyVanMiller said: Somebody was listening to One Bills Live today. Nope never listen to that show. At work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, JimBob2232 said: NO. PSU homer here. Hard pass. Homer should input more than no. care to expand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 No way he gets past 20. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 56 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: My Favorite was the Trade Up for McCargo Boy that was a bad one. They had some bad judgment. Whitner, Youboty, Ko Simpson. But they did somehow get Kyle Williams in the 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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