YoloinOhio Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) Add another to the QB carousel Edited February 3, 2021 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 By who? L’Oréal? 2 13 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I really hope the NFL QB position doesn’t turn into an NBA situation where these guys are always looking for a better situation. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 This offseason gonna be whack QB wise.....man I hope it causes some solid players at other positions to be let go so we can plug some holes! 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Rumors are the Raiders are trying to trade Carr and a bunch of picks for Watson. Just now, TheBeaneBandit said: This offseason gonna be whack QB wise.....man I hope it causes some solid players at other positions to be let go so we can plug some holes! For once the focus is on keep players and plugging up a piece or two. If the team resigns D.Williams, Mongo, Milano, Roberts, Ty and Barkley I don't see too many holes on this roster just a couple more pieces needed to get the team over KC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: Rumors are the Raiders are trying to trade Carr and a bunch of picks for Watson. Mahomes, Watson, and Herbert all in the same division....yes please? 9 1 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: Rumors are the Raiders are trying to trade Carr and a bunch of picks for Watson. For once the focus is on keep players and plugging up a piece or two. If the team resigns D.Williams, Mongo, Milano, Roberts, Ty and Barkley I don't see too many holes on this roster just a couple more pieces needed to get the team over KC. I agree. I just hope those couple of pieces are a guard and maybe a TE or physical guy somewhere in the secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Warcodered said: Mahomes, Watson, and Herbert all in the same division....yes please? I hope Watson goes to LV. It might help us by giving Mahomes a tougher path to the first round bye every season. Edited February 3, 2021 by SirAndrew 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 If I were a team in need of a QB, I’d actually go after Mariota over Carr. 2 2 2 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I think we’ve already seen the biggest quarterback move of the offseason. Reporters are bored. Every team has a package of players and picks to offer for Watson right now. I read a Baltimore story on Facebook from some “reporter” about sending Lamar and Judon (franchise tagged hypothetically in the story) and picks for Watson. It’s all madness and lack of interesting stories this offseason so far 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: I agree. I just hope those couple of pieces are a guard and maybe a TE or physical guy somewhere in the secondary. If they resign Mongo and D.Williams I personally am fine with the Oline. I think they play together well and the resources needed to upgrade the oline aren't easy or available. TE I wouldn't hate but it's not easy to find a prime time TE, there are only 4 to 5 in the league. I also think Knox could develop into a solid TE. I think this team desperately needs an edge rusher and possibly a big nickle to help cover TE's. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I hope Watson goes to LA. It might help us by giving Mahomes a tougher path to the first round bye every season. Interesting idea but who gives up two #1’s to begin with for Carr? 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Peterman ready to step in. 1 1 10 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Mahomes, Watson, and Herbert all in the same division....yes please? Don’t forget Drew Lock lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) On 2/2/2021 at 5:49 PM, JohnNord said: Interesting idea but who gives up two #1’s to begin with for Carr? Doesn't make much sense...besides why not just use him in the trade for Watson then. Though it would be a rare cruelty to put Derek Carr on the same team that broke his brother's spirit. On 2/2/2021 at 5:53 PM, 4merper4mer said: Don’t forget Drew Lock lol. Good point if this happens picks from Denver should be good for a while because they're record is going to be *****. Edited February 4, 2021 by Warcodered 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: I agree. I just hope those couple of pieces are a guard and maybe a TE or physical guy somewhere in the secondary. yep. And a RB. 9 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: If they resign Mongo and D.Williams I personally am fine with the Oline. I think they play together well and the resources needed to upgrade the oline aren't easy or available. TE I wouldn't hate but it's not easy to find a prime time TE, there are only 4 to 5 in the league. I also think Knox could develop into a solid TE. I think this team desperately needs an edge rusher and possibly a big nickle to help cover TE's. agree. I think we get OL help from the draft and keep our current guys. Edge or big nickel could come from FA. 20 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I hope Watson goes to LA. It might help us by giving Mahomes a tougher path to the first round bye every season. this is a great point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I cannot wait to see which GM gives up two firsts for D Carr. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Gruden has been waiting for this opportunity since he first saw Carr in action.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 When the Bills were going through the drought I cant remember a time where quality QB's were available for trade like now. We did trade for Bledsoe but that was it for 15+ years. Go figure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 58 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Add another to the QB carousel So the whole idea of this notion, per Thad Brown, is that the Raiders want to trade Carr for 2 firsts. Then take those and their next two firsts and flip them for Watson. I think these scenarios are going a wee bit off the rails, myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So the whole idea of this notion, per Thad Brown, is that the Raiders want to trade Carr for 2 firsts. Then take those and their next two firsts and flip them for Watson. 4 1st for Watson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Protocal69 said: When the Bills were going through the drought I cant remember a time where quality QB's were available for trade like now. We did trade for Bledsoe but that was it for 15+ years. Go figure It really is a crazy time right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 52 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Rumors are the Raiders are trying to trade Carr and a bunch of picks for Watson. For once the focus is on keep players and plugging up a piece or two. If the team resigns D.Williams, Mongo, Milano, Roberts, Ty and Barkley I don't see too many holes on this roster just a couple more pieces needed to get the team over KC. I think the point is that we're not likely going to be able to re-sign D Williams, Mongo, and Milano much less all of them PLUS Roberts, Ty Nsekhe, and Barkley. And don't forget Isaiah McKenzie, Ike Boettger, Dean Marlowe and Levi Wallace who are either re-signings or holes We can cut some players to create cap but then we have to fill those holes. That was the whole point of Beane's presser saying we're going to have to make some hard choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 37 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Though it would be a rare cruelty to put Derek Carr on the same team that broke his brothers spirit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2zipper Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I would like whatever the Mariota is better than car crowd is smoking because that take is objectively terrible. I think it's going to take five or six first to get Watson and the reason why Carr doesn't just get moved for him is because Houston wants draft picks as opposed to players. Stafford just moved for two first round picks and Carr is better than Stafford and 3 years younger. Two first round picks for Carris a deal that makes sense if your Chicago or if your San Francisco and you are currently looking to upgrade that position. That deal is in realistic for the Broncos because they're in the same division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 It's funny because QB is actually becoming somewhat of a "fungible" position. There are a lot of excellent ones out there, and more coming out every year that look really good right out of the gate, or at least very soon afterwards. So that makes me wonder why any team would trade for anything less than the best. Any team that trades for Derek Carr deserves what they get. He's eminently replaceable 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think the point is that we're not likely going to be able to re-sign D Williams, Mongo, and Milano much less all of them PLUS Roberts, Ty Nsekhe, and Barkley. And don't forget Isaiah McKenzie, Ike Boettger, Dean Marlowe and Levi Wallace who are either re-signings or holes Barkley won't tipped the scales. He should play for food and extra game tickets for his wife's pals at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: 4 1st for Watson? Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just decoding the central premise of the OP: Quote For that to happen, the Raiders would have to receive two first-round picks for Carr, which they would then package with their own first-rounders in 2021 and 2022 to present a compelling offer of four first-round picks to the Texans for Watson, who has reportedly asked be traded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just decoding the central premise of the OP: If so, then Caserio should be on the phone right now to Gruden. They would be nuts not to take that ridiculous offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 46 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Interesting idea but who gives up two #1’s to begin with for Carr? Carolina offered #9 overall for Stafford. They might be interested in Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Mahomes, Watson, and Herbert all in the same division....yes please? Tell me about...let them all beat the crap out of each other... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, mushypeaches said: It's funny because QB is actually becoming somewhat of a "fungible" position. There are a lot of excellent ones out there, and more coming out every year that look really good right out of the gate, or at least very soon afterwards. So that makes me wonder why any team would trade for anything less than the best. Any team that trades for Derek Carr deserves what they get. He's eminently replaceable I’ve always felt there’s also something “off”about Carr as a leader and teammate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 46 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I cannot wait to see which GM gives up two firsts for D Carr. In a world where Matthew Stafford goes for 2 firsts and a third it is possible esp given how good Carr's contract is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: In a world where Matthew Stafford goes for 2 firsts and a third it is possible esp given how good Carr's contract is. Stafford basically went for one first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: Stafford basically went for one first. How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Not too long ago a number of folks here considered Carr a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Yeah cause he’s a smart quarterback, who’s a team first guy that can win at a $20M annual contract.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 59 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: 4 1st for Watson? He is worth more in my opinion. Young QB's who are elite are hard to find. But realistically the Texans are going to have to hope for a package of picks that includes 4 firsts as a bedrock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Nobody’s giving up one first rounder for Carr let alone two. The guy is just good enough to not get a top draft pick but not good enough to make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 24 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Not too long ago a number of folks here considered Carr a stud. Folks here being wrong not too long ago is irrelevant to the discussion today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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