97bills Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 I saw someone talking about him and got me thinking about those two onside kicks in the playoffs you couldn’t done it no better. At that moment even no we were losing I thought man this dude might be a serious weapon years to come. Happy for him and this team. 19 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Really good kicker. FO did great there. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Even though he had a rough beginning I Billieved in him. He has a cannon leg like Josh has a Howitzer arm 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaccof Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 He seems to be a real competitor which I like and will endear him to Bills fans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) I talk with him every morning.... .. Edited February 2, 2021 by HOUSE 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 the kid passed the test for the most part, making several 50+ yard kicks in Arizona and that 52 yarder against the Colts in WC game, no way House Money was going to make those...only going to get better and more consistent about those misses from the past year. great pick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Another good pick by Beane ! If he continues to get better this kid could go down as one of the best kickers in Bills history and we've had some good ones . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, First Round Bust said: the kid passed the test for the most part, making several 50+ yard kicks in Arizona and that 52 yarder against the Colts in WC game, no way House Money was going to make those...only going to get better and more consistent about those misses from the past year. great pick Agreed. Once he learns that kicking the ball ABOVE the uprights leaves the good/no good call up to near-sighted (too nice?) refs, his FG game will be in good shape. I'd also like to see him perfect a kickoff that lands between the goal line and the 5. It's great that he can kick it out of the end zone at will, but why give the opponent a free start at the 25 every time? A surprise kick inside the 5 once in a while, pinning them inside the 10-15, could be a nice weapon at crucial times in games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Isn't it weird that the Patriots struck out at QB and Kicker the year the Bills hit gold with QB and Kicker? 2 things that were certain in New England. Good QB and Kicker for 20 years. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 While Frazier and Daboll get attention for HC jobs, quietly Heath Farwell is making a big difference on special teams. He also deserves credit on Bass, from what I recall he met with him just before Covid shut down everything in terms of in-person visits/pro days. Farwell's recommendation was a big reason they drafted him. It will be interesting to see Farwell's career trajectory, not a ton of special teams coordinators get head coaching jobs. The biggest names are John Harbaugh and of course Marv Levy, Joe Judge with Giants is the most recent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 I wonder how much it will take to re-sign Bojo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 57 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Isn't it weird that the Patriots struck out at QB and Kicker the year the Bills hit gold with QB and Kicker? 2 things that were certain in New England. Good QB and Kicker for 20 years. We stole their punter too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) I've never understood why kickers don't just blast kicks off players on onside kicks. It's the best way to avoid the 10 yard thing because it would mean the other team already touched it and considering it would bounce backwards after hitting the player, it makes it a lot easier to recover. If I was a coach, I would just say "pick a guy and kick it at him" Onside kicks are terrible Edited February 2, 2021 by Buffalo03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: I've never understood why kickers don't just blast kicks off players on onside kicks. It's the best way to avoid the 10 yard thing because it would mean the other team already touched it and considering it would bounce backwards after hitting the player, it makes it a lot easier to recover. If I was a coach, I would just say "pick a guy and kick it at him" Onside kicks are terrible Easier said than done perhaps??? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Great to have Bass aboard. The move to transition to him right away worked - credit to McD. Looks like the kicker position is set for a good period of time now. I think the covid thing was a help to Bass. He clearly had the leg from day 1, but handling the pressure is an unknown. Bass seemed to have some nerves early and has worked through it. I think not having huge crowds lessened the pressure and may have helped him ease into the position. He worked through those issues and hit some big ones in the playoffs. He's a keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, MJS said: We stole their punter too. Yeah. They at least got a good young punter though, sound familiar? Sounds like the Bills when Moorman was the face our franchise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Really good kicker. FO did great there. Love this kid but especially his ability to get a 60 yarder if necessary. Great upgrade to House$. Props Brandon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Kwai San said: Easier said than done perhaps??? I agree....all the guy has to do is duck, and the ball is thirty yards down the field with no chance of recovery....and that’s assuming the kicker can be accurate enough to kick it directly at one player 10 to 20 yards away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 35 minutes ago, Special K said: I agree....all the guy has to do is duck, and the ball is thirty yards down the field with no chance of recovery....and that’s assuming the kicker can be accurate enough to kick it directly at one player 10 to 20 yards away. Or more likely out of bounds with the ensuing penalty and the possession in the hands of the opponent which certainly isn't what you want to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Einstein's Dog said: Great to have Bass aboard. The move to transition to him right away worked - credit to McD. Looks like the kicker position is set for a good period of time now. I think the covid thing was a help to Bass. He clearly had the leg from day 1, but handling the pressure is an unknown. Bass seemed to have some nerves early and has worked through it. I think not having huge crowds lessened the pressure and may have helped him ease into the position. He worked through those issues and hit some big ones in the playoffs. He's a keeper. There were long-snapping/holder issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 3 hours ago, BornAgainBillsFan said: I'd also like to see him perfect a kickoff that lands between the goal line and the 5. It's great that he can kick it out of the end zone at will, but why give the opponent a free start at the 25 every time? A surprise kick inside the 5 once in a while, pinning them inside the 10-15, could be a nice weapon at crucial times in games. I mean there were several times they had him do that this year it varied depending on if we wanted them to return it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: I mean there were several times they had him do that this year it varied depending on if we wanted them to return it. Fair enough - I just wish they'd try it more often. Like just often enough for the opposing team to be caught off guard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 5 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Really good kicker. FO did great there. Remember when we were ready to throw him off the boat after week 2, I member. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Watkins90 said: Remember when we were ready to throw him off the boat after week 2, I member. some were. I love how that no excuse for bass post aged... 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) Thanks for this thread because after seeing two kicks in a row that almost ended in the same results Bass might want to continue practicing this kick until his odds are significantly increased in comparison to league average. Do this kick out of the blue a few times. See what happens, is what I'm saying. So the opposition ends up with better field position facing a bend, but not break McD D. Allen will make up for it. Unpredictable is the name of the game. Chiefs just schooled Buffalo on it. I think it can become another weapon in the McD/Daboll arsenal IMO. Edited February 2, 2021 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Watkins90 said: Remember when we were ready to throw him off the boat after week 2, I member. I member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 6 hours ago, JMF2006 said: Even though he had a rough beginning I Billieved in him. He has a cannon leg like Josh has a Howitzer arm Maybe we can find a backup with both. Really scare opposing special teams. 4 hours ago, Doc said: I wonder how much it will take to re-sign Bojo? A lot more if they try to have contract with incentives since it will be hard to get them if we do not punt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 58 minutes ago, Figster said: Thanks for this thread because after seeing two kicks in a row that almost ended in the same results Bass might want to continue practicing this kick until his odds are significantly increased in comparison to league average. Do this kick out of the blue a few times. See what happens, is what I'm saying. So the opposition ends up with better field position facing a bend, but not break McD D. Allen will make up for it. Unpredictable is the name of the game. Chiefs just schooled Buffalo on it. I think it can become another weapon in the McD/Daboll arsenal IMO. League average...for onside kicks? I want to say it's about 10%. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 In Madden, a long time ago, I would line up in onside kick Right. Then short kick it to the left side. My guy would get it most of the time. The Bills should just do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 6 hours ago, BornAgainBillsFan said: Agreed. Once he learns that kicking the ball ABOVE the uprights leaves the good/no good call up to near-sighted (too nice?) refs, his FG game will be in good shape. I'd also like to see him perfect a kickoff that lands between the goal line and the 5. It's great that he can kick it out of the end zone at will, but why give the opponent a free start at the 25 every time? A surprise kick inside the 5 once in a while, pinning them inside the 10-15, could be a nice weapon at crucial times in games. Hey - this just reminded me, what was the basis of the one KO in the playoffs that hit on the goal line. It had the KO returner stumped and the guy eventually tried running it out only to get tackled in terrible field position (for them). They cut to commercial and then came back and gave it to the team at the 25. They showed the replay with the ball hitting the goal line like that somehow justified the call (and gave no explanation). I didn't understand why, in normal circumstances if you decide to take it out you have to live with the consequences. Is this just an annual playoff event now, screw the Bills each year in some manner on a kickoff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 I really wish that the Bills kicked the extra point to go down 16 and then after recovering the kick scored a TD. Even if they weren't able to get the ball back again it would have been fun to be down one score late in the game with a small chance. Both onside kicks were great KC just did a good job fielding the second one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I really wish that the Bills kicked the extra point to go down 16 and then after recovering the kick scored a TD. Even if they weren't able to get the ball back again it would have been fun to be down one score late in the game with a small chance. Both onside kicks were great KC just did a good job fielding the second one. Watching Mahomes smug face go from glee to shock and horror would have been priceless Kicker just kicked his ass... Edited February 2, 2021 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Figster said: Watching Mahomes smug face go from glee to shock and horror would have been priceless Kicker just kicked his ass... Hypothetically had the Bills kicked the extra point and gone down 16 and then scored a TD plus 2 points on the recovered on-sides kick the Bills would have had plenty of time left plus their timeouts down just 8. They wouldn't have needed a recovered kick to get the ball back down 8 as they could have gotten the ball back even if they gave up one first down (so some margin for error on the defense too.) It would have made the game much more interesting even if Mahomes just got 2 first downs and grinded down the clock. Edited February 2, 2021 by billsfan89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.W. Cyclone Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 10 hours ago, HOUSE said: I talk with him every morning.... .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, F.W. Cyclone said: take me to the river ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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machine gun kelly Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 21 hours ago, HOUSE said: I talk with him every morning.... .. Great Secret Santa gift for work Xmas parties. I’ve unfortunately been the recipient of it. To the OP, that was a ice of you to notice and recognize Bass. Just because he started out slowly, barring injuries, we have our kicker for another decade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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