colin Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 20 minutes ago, eball said: It's not that Josh doesn't want to be paid fairly, but the market for QBs is already established. He will sign a team-friendly deal that is still market value. i think 40-47mm per year, 5-10 years, the team friendly bit will be how it is structured so that he gets cash up front, but it smashes the cap in the future, when it will surely be larger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Beane will pick up the 5th year option as soon as it can be done and Josh will sign it. Josh will sign a long term contract before the start of next season (probably before camp). The "mean" terms will be $42M (+/- $2M) per on a 6 year (+/- 1 Year) contract extension starting in the 2023 season. I will LAMP this after it all happens! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said: I hope we wait at least 10-12 games into next season before signing him to a massive extension. Why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, RaoulDuke79 said: Why? Because he loves bad takes. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: Because he loves bad takes. That may be the only reasonable explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 18 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Imho, Josh also wants to get it done this offseason, to leave no doubt as to what he wants to do career wise in Buffalo, and a sign to all those fans who stepped up in memory of his family--he's basically said as much already by stating on record that he never wants to leave. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30298150/buffalo-bills-josh-allen-never-wants-leave-fans-honor-late-grandmother Incentives. Agree to a good salary .. Add incentives to sweeten the pot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I hope Allen just takes the Wentz contract and it’s a done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I hope Allen just takes the Wentz contract and it’s a done deal. I'd rather he took the Mahomes deal with lower average salaries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Doc said: I'd rather he took the Mahomes deal with lower average salaries. Mahomes cap number in 2027 is 59 mil. No thanks. If the cap is around 220,000 mil they are *****. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Just now, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Mahomes cap number in 2027 is 59 mil. No thanks. If the cap is around 220,000 mil they are *****. That will get renegotiated down. I'm more talking giving him a huge roster bonus as basically an option bonus, so that if he gets a career-ending injury he won't have a huge dead cap amount the following year. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Prediction: Josh is going to piss off his agent (and agents in general) by agreeing to a deal that is “barely” market value because he wants to help the team. We are incredibly fortunate to have drafted this young man. It’s unprecedented. He’s a unicorn. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said: Not completely sold on him yet. Beane and McDermott are, so what you propose won’t happen in all likelihood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 47 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said: Not completely sold on him yet. Well it’s a good thing you’re not the GM of the Bills, I’ll say that much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said: I don't understand how so many fans can be confident in him after the way he played in the playoffs. You mean leading his team to the AFC Championship game in his 3rd year....how terrible. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said: I don't understand how so many fans can be confident in him after the way he played in the playoffs. Did he really play that terrible... Amazing against the colts. Did what he needed to do against a really tough ravens defence in a crazy wind game. And yes probably a subpar performance against the chiefs. I don’t know how you can say he played bad overall though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said: I don't understand how so many fans can be confident in him after the way he played in the playoffs. Good point. Going 77/120 (64.2%) for 817 yards, 5 TDs and 1 INT, with another 145 yards and 1 TD rushing, is just terrible. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, NJKBillsfan said: I don't understand how so many fans can be confident in him after the way he played in the playoffs. League leader in many areas. that’s why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, NJKBillsfan said: I don't understand how so many fans can be confident in him after the way he played in the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 3 hours ago, NJKBillsfan said: Not completely sold on him yet. In what way ? The guy was 80% of our offense, which set all sorts of records. He won two playoff games and lost to the defending Super Bowl Champs. Improved all aspects of his game including making decisions. How many QBs are better than him ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Josh had, like, 2 bad games this entire season. Even Jim Kelly in his prime had at least a couple bad games each year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Cherry picking games makes no sense, and seems like someone is trying to instill doubt. He’ll get paid and Beane will be creative in how he drafts the contract to not hurt the team in the lean cap year as he’s still on his 4th year rookie contract in 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) On 1/9/2021 at 11:19 PM, BuffaloBill said: In other breaking news, sometimes it snows in Buffalo. What do people think, that they will let him walk? He will be under contract for two more years. It wouldn't have to be done this offseason. This is news, not unexpected news, but it's news. 1 hour ago, NJKBillsfan said: Ok but what exactly did he do against Baltimore or KC? What would those stats look like if you take away the Colts game though? Dude, just shush and move away. This whole take would not look smart on Thomas Edison or Einstein, much less an ordinary human. 5 hours ago, TheProcess said: Went and watched the Youtube clip. Brilliant. Edited January 30, 2021 by Thurman#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 3 hours ago, NJKBillsfan said: What would those stats look like if you take away the Colts game though? The stupidest argument ever. “Well if you take away his good games you’ll see that he’s really a terrible QB.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 46 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said: I think Skip Bayless said it best. He's a good athlete with a big arm but he doesn't seem to have a good feel for playing QB and there's still concerns with his accuracy. He had 2 bad games in the playoffs alone. He didn’t . Straight up played better than Lamar in the Baltimore game. Then, played a heck of a game in KC but had a coach, running back, and defense all let him down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I think there’s an argument that you’re only as good as you’re last game, whether that’s fair or not. If you look at the Bucs forum they’re no doubt grateful for what Brady has done for them this year but worried by the fact he threw three picks in the NFCCG which could have easily cost them. The gap between Mahomes and Josh in the AFCCG was a chasm and probably not even predicted by those who have doubts about the latter. Yes, the rest of the team played their part in creating the gap but Josh didn’t help himself. I freely admit I’m a glass half empty kind of guy - I love having Josh as our Quarterback and if you cut him he’d bleed Buffalo. But I am concerned that he could turn into a Wentz or a Goff based on how he can freeze under pressure, or this season was an outlier and he will regress rather than progress. Should we hold off on a deal for another year and, if he repeats the success, we know we have the real deal on our hands? On the flip side, if he develops in the same way as he did between years one and two, and two and three, then we’ll have a cap nightmare on our hands. He has more than earned a new contract with his development but I can appreciate why some may have doubts - some with far more credit in the bank than the likes of Skip Bayless. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 35 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said: You think Allen played good in KC? Did you watch the game? Sure did. Do you think his OC and HC coached like they had most of the year? Do you think his receivers, o line, running backs played good? Do you think the defense played good? Did you watch the game? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I actually think Josh and the passing game masked a lot of deficiencies in our offense for the whole season and it caught up to us against Kc. When they took that away with their physical play we couldn’t rely on a running game. There is some good insight from the all 22 of our piss poor line play and Knox. At this point Josh isn’t going anywhere for a long time. But I would suggest Stop watching Skip Bayless. There is a lot better insight out there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 3 hours ago, NJKBillsfan said: I think Skip Bayless said it best. He's a good athlete with a big arm but he doesn't seem to have a good feel for playing QB and there's still concerns with his accuracy. He had 2 bad games in the playoffs alone. T-o-l much, asking for a friend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Sure did. Do you think his OC and HC coached like they had most of the year? Do you think his receivers, o line, running backs played good? Do you think the defense played good? Did you watch the game? It's clear this troll doesn't watch any of the games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 3 hours ago, NJKBillsfan said: I think Skip Bayless said it best. He's a good athlete with a big arm but he doesn't seem to have a good feel for playing QB and there's still concerns with his accuracy. He had 2 bad games in the playoffs alone. Bless your heart. Hope you get lots of the attention you seek. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 5 hours ago, NJKBillsfan said: He had 2 bad games in the playoffs alone. 2? you keep referring to 2 bad games. the Bills played 3 games and won 2. mostly because of Josh. "I think we can make something fit," Beane said in an appearance on WGR Sportsradio 550 Thursday. "Without getting into how we would do it, we could make it fit. There are ways that we can do it. We'll have to be creative with it for sure based on our current cap situation, but I definitely think it could be done." https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-today-extension-for-josh-allen-possible-despite-restrictive-salary-cap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 7 hours ago, Doc said: It's clear this troll doesn't watch any of the games. I hear ya, I needed a little interaction like that. Felt good to put someone in their place. Even if they don’t think so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 20 hours ago, RiotAct said: Josh had, like, 2 bad games this entire season. Even Jim Kelly in his prime had at least a couple bad games each year. And more importantly, Josh was playing hurt in those bad games with a shoulder brace on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 9:38 AM, Miyagi-Do Karate said: If I am josh, I just wait. This is the worst year to sign a big deal. I know teams can get creative with how they structure, but it still probably will be less than what he gets after next offseason. the only reason he does it now is worry about a catastrophic injury or worry about a steep decline in his play; don’t think the first is too Worrisome and no chance josh is worried about the second— he is going to bet on himself. That's a good point, he might wait until next year, where the cap is more clear. But at the same time he has alot going for him this year to demand a massive contract. Josh knows every game and every practice you can have a teddy Bridgewater or Alex Smith injury, id imagine he would like to lock up a deal as soon as possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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