Winning...But Undisciplined and Sloppy

[Wizard]

Yes, a win is a win. And, yes, Daboll's offensive playcalling and Bills scoring has improved. Kudos and cheers for a win.

 

But, it is time to move into the level of contenders. I think what separates our playoff-bound Bills from the Chiefs, Steelers, and Titans is not executing consistently or with a killer urgency.

 

Against the Chargers we can get away with an undisciplined, sloppy, and the inability

 of not finishing off opponents.

 

A critical fumble, an interception, multiple unsportsmanlike penalties, and the lack of finishing an opponent at the end if the game is now a trend not a one-off moment.  Add in the generally overly conservative second half  playcalling once again, and this is pause for concern. 

 

Time for Josh to take the next level of consistent greatness, McDermott laying into his players for undisciplined play, and Daboll getting his offense to execute and finish.

 

We should expect better execution, consistency, and a first round playoff win this year.

 

Let's Go, Buffalo!

 

 

[Big Turk]

I dunno...I see other teams that so the same things in some games. I think it's a game to game thing and I don't really see this a lot in comparison to other teams. 

 

I think this is a situation where we watch the Bills very closely every game and we see bits and pieces of other games and we make generalizations based on seeing 100% of Bills games versus maybe 5-10% of other teams games.

[delirious]

What frustrates me so much is the amount of McDermott preaching fundamentals and mental toughness, and week in and week out, we play so undisciplined and shoot ourselves in the foot. 

 

[Warcodered]

I liked plenty of stuff from this game but is there some sort of requirement for Bills games to be bad for people with heart conditions?

[BITE ME]

They better clean things up or they won't win the Division. 

 

@ Niners

 

Steelers

 

@ Broncos

 

@ Patriots

 

Dolphins

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

The Int I can deal with, QB's make bad throws, but the fumble by Allen is just plain dumb, he needs to simply fall on it.  Likely Allen will say in his post game he needs top play smarter, but then the next week he does the same thing again.

 

The one penalty on Moss was a bad call, but the one by Allen while ticky tack was easy call, he spiked it right at the guys feet and the two roughing calls were fairly easy calls too..

[Malazan]

Who are these teams that are winning 'pretty'?

 

Maybe the Chiefs?

[Warcodered]

Just now, FUTURIST said:

They better clean things up or they won't win the Division. 

 

@ Niners

 

Steelers

 

@ Broncos

 

@ Patriots

 

Dolphins

The Dolphins still have to play the Chiefs, Raiders, and Patriots....oh and us I'm not that worried.

[entropyrules]

23 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I liked plenty of stuff from this game but is there some sort of requirement for Bills games to be bad for people with heart conditions?

Not sure at 71 what's going to do in my heart first - COVID or the Bills

Edited November 29, 2020 by entropyrules
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[Beast]

I did not like seeing the Bills go in low at Herbert multiple times.

 

Cheap stuff right there.

 

 

Edited November 29, 2020 by Beast

[Big Turk]

Amd we just saw an entire season worth of clock management mistakes in this game by Anthony Lynn...that is why they are 3-8

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

2 minutes ago, delirious said:

What frustrates me so much is the amount of McDermott preaching fundamentals and mental toughness, and week in and week out, we play so undisciplined and shoot ourselves in the foot. 

 

Bring back running laps.  Blown coverage?  Five laps of the field.  Dumb penalties?  Take a lap!  Laces wrong on the field goal attempt?  Bojo, take a lap!

[Best Williams Available]

3 minutes ago, delirious said:

What frustrates me so much is the amount of McDermott preaching fundamentals and mental toughness, and week in and week out, we play so undisciplined and shoot ourselves in the foot. 

 

Right. There need to be consequences for players lapses—preaching hasn’t worked.

[Beast]

3 minutes ago, FUTURIST said:

They better clean things up or they won't win the Division. 

 

@ Niners

 

Steelers

 

@ Broncos

 

@ Patriots

 

Dolphins

 

If the Bills do win it will you promise to just post under one name?

Edited November 29, 2020 by Beast

[Tenhigh]

1 minute ago, matter2003 said:

Amd we just saw an entire season worth of clock management mistakes in this game by Anthony Lynn...that is why they are 3-8

You ain't kidding. What was up with the field goal unit at the end there?

[Real McClappy]

The refs were actually wrong on several calls in this game and they were undisciplined.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

whelp. let the complaining and nit picking begin, after a win.

 

 

these are professionals, chargers actually have a good team and played tough. bills came out of the bye not as prepared and played like it.

 

to sit there and try and find every reason they should of lost is, well, just like a bills fan, or some anyway.

 

8-3

 

on to the 49ers.

 

enjoy all that cheese with your whine!

Edited November 29, 2020 by A Firm Tree Does Not Fear

[PolishPrince]

1 minute ago, matter2003 said:

Amd we just saw an entire season worth of clock management mistakes in this game by Anthony Lynn...that is why they are 3-8

And he was almost our HC over McDermott - and people (rightfully) complain about McDermott’s clock management.... yikes, what I saw from Lynn should be fireable right now

[Warcodered]

What I also want to know is when the league decided the Bills offense isn't allowed to celebrate anymore?

[Big Turk]

Just now, Real McNasty said:

The refs were actually wrong on several calls in this game and they were undisciplined.

 

That call on Moss was a headscratcher...initially I thought he threw the ball at the Charger defender when he got up but then the other angle showed he threw it nowhere near him and he was just giving the ball back...that was a terrible call.

1 minute ago, A Firm Tree Does Not Fear said:

whelp. let the complaining and nit picking begin, after a win.

 

 

these are professionals, chargers actually have a good team and played tough. bills came out of the bye not as prepared and played like it.

 

to sit there and try and find every reason they should of lost is, well, just like a bills fan, or some anyway.

 

8-4

 

on to the 49ers.

 

enjoy all that cheese with your whine!

 

8-3 bro...8-3.

[Ya Digg?]

1 minute ago, Real McNasty said:

The refs were actually wrong on several calls in this game and they were undisciplined.

The unsportsmanlike penalties against both  Moss and Davis are laughable, so was the one official who didn’t throw the flag initially on the OPI on San Diego at the end of the game (right before Hail Mary #2🤦‍♂️)

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, PolishPrince said:

And he was almost our HC over McDermott - and people (rightfully) complain about McDermott’s clock management.... yikes, what I saw from Lynn should be fireable right now

 

McD is not bad he is probably average compared to other coaches.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

3 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

8-3 bro...8-3.

I'm telling you, it's these old eyes. they just don't see right anymore

Edited November 29, 2020 by A Firm Tree Does Not Fear

[Helpmenow]

Personal fouls are gonna kill this team.

[Real McClappy]

Just now, matter2003 said:

 

That call on Moss was a headscratcher...initially I thought he threw the ball at the Charger defender when he got up but then the other angle showed he threw it nowhere near him and he was just giving the ball back...that was a terrible call.

It was pathetic bad. 

 

It's good to see the Bills beat the opposing team and refs finally. 

 

Bills need to clean up the turnovers. Allen needs to jump on live balls. 

 

We got really lucky today that the opposing coach is completely lost. 

[Sweats]

.....and barely beat a 3-7 team

 

Aye Carumba 

[Tierlifer]

3 minutes ago, A Firm Tree Does Not Fear said:

whelp. let the complaining and nit picking begin, after a win.

 

 

these are professionals, chargers actually have a good team and played tough. bills came out of the bye not as prepared and played like it.

 

to sit there and try and find every reason they should of lost is, well, just like a bills fan, or some anyway.

 

8-4

 

on to the 49ers.

 

enjoy all that cheese with your whine!

First time since the turn of the century that will have locked in back to back non losing seasons. A VERY good chance at winning the division in 25 years. You’d think they lost today. 
 

 

 

 

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, Real McNasty said:

Bills need to clean up the turnovers. Allen needs to jump on live balls. 

Yeah needed to make a better decision on that with it not being 3rd or 4th down.

[buffalobillswin]

Josh Allen's hero ball tendencies need to be toned down. I want him taking chances but he needs to know the situation. In fg rang and up 7, just fall on the ball.

 

And for the love of god, knock the ball down.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

1 minute ago, Sweats said:

.....and barely beat a 3-7 team

 

Aye Carumba 

 

There are such a high percentage of one score games in the NFL that no two score victory is ever "barely".  But we certainly didn't dominate.  

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

10 minutes ago, FUTURIST said:

They better clean things up or they won't win the Division. 

 

@ Niners

 

Steelers

 

@ Broncos

 

@ Patriots

 

Dolphins

Honestly the chargers are as competitive as all those teams excluding the steelers...I dont think they've lost a two score game all season until today.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

3 minutes ago, Tierlifer said:

First time since the turn of the century that will have locked in back to back non losing seasons. A VERY good chance at winning the division in 25 years. You’d think they lost today. 

as these kids say today, I know right.

 

GO BILLS!!!

[LABILLBACKER]

5 minutes ago, delirious said:

What frustrates me so much is the amount of McDermott preaching fundamentals and mental toughness, and week in and week out, we play so undisciplined and shoot ourselves in the foot. 

 

I don't care what some fans see or choose not to see. This team is poorly coached. You can set your watch to them playing poorly in the 2nd half every week. Especially the 3rd Q.  A game this ugly and sloppy should never happen after a bye week. More stupid penalties and decisions by the players. Back to back Hail Mary's.  Really, who does that?  More dumb decisions by Josh. This team is incapable of separating from anyone, including the Jets. Yeah we'll make the playoffs but beyond that I'm keeping my expectations very low.

[Kenosha2Buffalo]

13 minutes ago, FUTURIST said:

They better clean things up or they won't win the Division. 

 

@ Niners

 

Steelers

 

@ Broncos

 

@ Patriots

 

Dolphins

 

I see one loss. Stop being so negative

[Aussie Joe]

14 minutes ago, FUTURIST said:

They better clean things up or they won't win the Division. 

 

@ Niners

 

Steelers

 

@ Broncos

 

@ Patriots

 

Dolphins

Meh...not exactly murderers row..

[ProcessAccepted]

16 minutes ago, Wizard said:

A critical fumble, an interception, multiple unsportsmanlike penalties, and the lack of finishing an opponent at the end if the game is now a trend not a one-off moment.  Add in the generally overly conservative second half  playcalling once again, and this is pause for concern. 

 

I agree with you on the sloppiness of the game and how that will hurt against better opponents. But some of those unsportsmanlike penalties were just bad calls. Like the one on Moss was something you see on any given play in any other game.

[HappyDays]

For all the talk about the Chargers being a bad team they haven't lost any other game this year by more than 8 points.

[Real McClappy]

9 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I don't care what some fans see or choose not to see. This team is poorly coached. You can set your watch to them playing poorly in the 2nd half every week. Especially the 3rd Q.  A game this ugly and sloppy should never happen after a bye week. More stupid penalties and decisions by the players. Back to back Hail Mary's.  Really, who does that?  More dumb decisions by Josh. This team is incapable of separating from anyone, including the Jets. Yeah we'll make the playoffs but beyond that I'm keeping my expectations very low.

We can score points on O consistently. If the D plays at this level or above here out into the playoffs = sky is the limit.  This is a game 100% of the time the Bills lost with prior coaching staffs. 

 

Most teams come off a bye week with rust. I thinks it's safe to say the fluke Hail Mary's are done from here out. Every call against the Bills in the 2nd half was so subjective and straight BS IMO.

 

The turnovers cannot happen and needs to be fixed ASAP.

Edited November 29, 2020 by Real McNasty

[Don Otreply]

19 minutes ago, FUTURIST said:

They better clean things up or they won't win the Division. 

 

@ Niners

 

Steelers

 

@ Broncos

 

@ Patriots

 

Dolphins

They only need two wins to ice the AFCE , Miami and the pats, and we got both of those imo. 
 

Go Bills!!!

[AmishRifle]

On to the 49ers.  Go Bills!

 

I’m thankful that we have NFL and College football in the middle of a pandemic.  If I told you in July that the Bills would be 8-3 heading into December would anyone have believed me?  Sounds cliche but enjoy the ride!