Lamar Jackson pulled a Josh Allen and no one said a word.

[Juice_32]

I'm in the minority but I loved the lateral when Josh tried it and a still love it. 

 

Maybe I'm just too tormented by the ghosts of Edwards, EJ, Tyrod, etc. Gimme a QB with some balls. It's entertainment. 

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, Protocal69 said:

I miss by 10 or 15 feet, it’s still a bad miss. There you go again talking out of your ass. 

There you go getting agrees I’ve again.  
 

If you don’t think there’s a difference between Pat Mahomes missing a no look pass badly and Josh Allen missing that pass to brown badly I don’t know what to say.  It’s NOT the same thing.  If Mahomes was looking, we wouldn’t be talking about it.  It would’ve been a TD.  He’s the best player in the league.  He can do whatever he wants.  He’s completed no look passes before. He’s a magician with his arm.  When Allen can reach Mahomes greatness, people won’t be bashing him either. 
 

Mahomes has earned it.  Josh has not.  Don’t be so butt hurt because people bash your QB and don’t bash super bowl mvps and league mvps

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

33 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

I think it has more to do with situational basis, but it's all idiotic anyways... Should allen have done it? No. But if Knox catches it and runs it down to the five, Allen is a hero. 

dude if Knox gets to the 5 he’s not going down 😆 

[MJS]

12 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I was just referencing the original tweets.  Brady’s throw was nothing like joshs miss.  Brown was WIDE open.  Brady threw into triple coverage and it looked obvious to me that it was a throwaway.

 

Mahomes was closer to his target and he was looking the other way.  
 

I’m not bagging on Josh.  I’m just saying, that the comparisons aren’t viable imo.  

Oh, I didn't mention Allen. I was only talking about Mahomes.

[syhuang]

 

[ngbills]

Jackson has won an MVP.

Mahomes threw 50 TD's in one season. He threw for 5000 yards in a season. Josh has thrown 32 TD's and ~5000 yards in his career and sub 60% completion rate. 

 

And we are crying he gets criticized for bad plays more than those guys? That is how it goes in any sport. Tre White gives up a TD he is given much more slack than Levi Wallace right? If it is Levi this board would be screaming to bench Levi. White gets some slack because he has earned it. And it actually is warranted. I can guarantee in many less attempts Allen has missed open WR at a much higher percentage than Mahomes, Brees, Brady, etc. Josh has a decent number of those in many less passes. So yes, they will be pointed out until he is not that guy anymore. 

[John from Riverside]

15 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Jackson has won an MVP.

Mahomes threw 50 TD's in one season. He threw for 5000 yards in a season. Josh has thrown 32 TD's and ~5000 yards in his career and sub 60% completion rate. 

 

And we are crying he gets criticized for bad plays more than those guys? That is how it goes in any sport. Tre White gives up a TD he is given much more slack than Levi Wallace right? If it is Levi this board would be screaming to bench Levi. White gets some slack because he has earned it. And it actually is warranted. I can guarantee in many less attempts Allen has missed open WR at a much higher percentage than Mahomes, Brees, Brady, etc. Josh has a decent number of those in many less passes. So yes, they will be pointed out until he is not that guy anymore. 

I could care less if he gets critiqued.......it will keep the chip on his shoulder

[badassgixxer05]

1 hour ago, ngbills said:

Tre White gives up a TD he is given much more slack than Levi Wallace right? 

Since when does Tre White give up TDs? 🤔

[GunnerBill]

2 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

I saw that.

 

No one is saying anything because that game was a blowout.

 

Yea a blowout in week 1. Not with the game on the line in the post season. It is what it is.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, TheElectricCompany said:

When you're the MVP, you get some slack.

 

 

This.  Doesn’t mean it’s right, doesn’t mean it’s fair, but it Is That Way.

[GoBills808]

6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea a blowout in week 1. Not with the game on the line in the post season. It is what it is.

It was 0-0 game in the first quarter. The narrative is what it is

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

It was 0-0 game in the first quarter. The narrative is what it is

 

Yes but it ended up a week 1 blowout win that is why people haven't gone back to it.

 

People have to really get over the paranoia. There is not a great anti Bills agenda out there. 

[GoBills808]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

Yes but it ended up a week 1 blowout win that is why people haven't gone back to it.

 

People have to really get over the paranoia. There is not a great anti Bills agenda out there. 

It's not paranoia to say Allen put up one of the best lines across the league and people still can't give him his due

 

He's arrived time to get used to it

[GunnerBill]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

It's not paranoia to say Allen put up one of the best lines across the league and people still can't give him his due

 

He's arrived time to get used to it

 

Who isn't giving him his due?

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

Others have already pointed out the game situation:

 

0-0 in 1st quarter of week 1

 

vs

 

down by 3 with 1 minute left in the 4th quarter of a playoff game

 

I'll point out that the play itself isn't all that similar either. Ingram is a Running Back, and was pretty clearly an option for Jackson to pitch to on this play. Knox is a Tight End, and was never an option to pitch to. 

 

Last point: Jacksons lateral hit Ingram in the hands. Josh completely missed Knox. 

[Simon]

2 hours ago, Protocal69 said:

In the Browns Vs Ravens game on Sunday Lamar Jackson attempted the SAME type of no look lateral pass Josh Allen attempted to get to Knox in the playoff game.

 

 

It was not the same type of play at all.

 

That was a designed option from the moment the ball was snapped and it was the RB's fault for not being ready.

If he had been executing properly, he probably would have scored.

[eball]

2 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

I saw that.

 

No one is saying anything because that game was a blowout.

 

2 hours ago, H2o said:

I think the reason being is that the Ravens were demolishing the Browns and it wasn't during a Playoff game. 

 

The play happened in the first quarter of a scoreless game.  Try again?

[NoSaint]

2 hours ago, Protocal69 said:

In the Browns Vs Ravens game on Sunday Lamar Jackson attempted the SAME type of no look lateral pass Josh Allen attempted to get to Knox in the playoff game. Ingram had no idea it was coming but was still able to make the catch. All the commentators said was no harm no foul. Any difference was Lamar when for yards and Allen did not but the playmaker in them both tried it

 

 

 

Edit Ingram DID NOT MAKE THE CATCH!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10cVfSePEmgzCPDsPu0aOi3WbQuAf0HcK/view?usp=drivesdk

 

 

 

that and one was a nationally televised playoff game in the middle of a melt down. 

[Mat68]

He the wild inaccurate Qb.  He may never get past the narrative around his draft breakdown.  A few weeks throwing the ball over the yard and winning helps.  I think it comes down to the 4 primetime games.  He puts on a performance like Sunday without the fumbles the overall media may change there toon.

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, NoSaint said:

that and one was a nationally televised playoff game in the middle of a melt down. 

Do we really want to bring up playoff meltdowns in defense of Jackson lol

[GunnerBill]

7 minutes ago, eball said:

 

 

The play happened in the first quarter of a scoreless game.  Try again?

 

That doesn't matter though. The eventual outcome was a week 1 blowout so nobody goes back to the bust of a play in the first quarter. That is just common sense.

5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Do we really want to bring up playoff meltdowns in defense of Jackson lol

 

Nobody is defending Jackson. People are just saying calm down on the outrage.

[NoSaint]

7 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Do we really want to bring up playoff meltdowns in defense of Jackson lol

I mean, we are discussing why a blooper in a regionally televised week 1 blow out win is getting less attention than a blooper in a nationally televised playoff game that was lost.

 

i wasn’t trying to comment on either player.  just that it’s wildly different context and audiences.

Edited September 15, 2020 by NoSaint

[GunnerBill]

Just now, NoSaint said:

I mean, we are discussing why a blooper in a regionally televised week 1 blow out win is getting more attention than a blooper in a nationally televised playoff game that was lost.

 

i wasn’t trying to comment on either player.  just that it’s wildly different context and audiences.

 

Forget chips on the shoulder.... some of our posters have a whole bag of potatoes.

[GoBills808]

8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Forget chips on the shoulder.... some of our posters have a whole bag of potatoes.

I like to talk football, not about other posters. If you have something to say to me put it in a PM. Nobody wants to read your opinion of other people on the internet.

[GunnerBill]

11 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

I like to talk football, not about other posters. If you have something to say to me put it in a PM. Nobody wants to read your opinion of other people on the internet.

 

Who says I was talking about you? It was a comment on the fanbase. 

[Warcodered]

I mean you can get away with doing stupid ***** if it works.

[NoSaint]

28 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

I like to talk football, not about other posters. If you have something to say to me put it in a PM. Nobody wants to read your opinion of other people on the internet.

I mean, it’s a thread about how people are reacting to the plays and you are having a reaction.

 

ironically it’s nearly the only thread where you could kind of accidentally make yourself the topic and it be relevant content to discuss 

[GoBills808]

5 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

I mean, it’s a thread about how people are reacting to the plays and you are having a reaction.

 

ironically it’s nearly the only thread where you could kind of accidentally make yourself the topic and it be relevant content to discuss 

I'm certainly not opposed to discussing reactions. That's the reason forums like these exist. I think making personal judgements on people who share their reactions is pointless. 

[mykidsdad]

I think Lamar pitched it on an actual called play. I ran option in HS, and that is what it looked like, even that far down the field. It was a super late pitch, but it looked designed.

[Billsfan1972]

3 hours ago, NewEra said:

He spoke for himself.  
 

If you don’t understand at this point, I can’t help you

Brady threw into triple coverage.  It was a throwaway.  
 

mahomes attempted a no look pass.  Josh was looking 

It was a 2-pt convert.  You don't throw the ball away in those instances.  

 

Mahomes was looking and threw a terrible pass (Allen's though was admittedly worse).

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, NoSaint said:

that and one was a nationally televised playoff game in the middle of a melt down. 

 

Lamar Jackson has melted down in two nationally televised playoff games. It's okay to admit the media is biased against Josh Allen. It's meaningless to his success but you'd have to be blind to not see it.

[Protocal69]

I guess I wasnt the only one who noticed the same thing but the twobillsdrive boys want to call me out.

 

 

Edited September 15, 2020 by Protocal69

[QCity]

15 minutes ago, Protocal69 said:

I guess I wasnt the only one who noticed the same thing but the twobillsdrive boys want to call me out.

 

 

 

 

"I found some random people on Twitter that agree with me, I told you guys the Earth was flat!"

[Protocal69]

15 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

 

"I found some random people on Twitter that agree with me, I told you guys the Earth was flat!"

smh poor analogy. you are taking what  my opinion and some others and other comparing to a bunch of idiots that are making statements about the earth being flat which are totally false based on FACT and not opinion based.

 

You should really learned the difference between FACT vs Opinion and stop critiquing people when its obvious that you do not have the intelligence to do.

Edited September 15, 2020 by Protocal69

[NoSaint]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Lamar Jackson has melted down in two nationally televised playoff games. It's okay to admit the media is biased against Josh Allen. It's meaningless to his success but you'd have to be blind to not see it.

you mean the same ones the questioned Lamar coming out too?

 

If Josh puts up an MVP season they will treat him like favre and not nit pick everything. As is, he hasn’t proven them wrong yet, as much as we all think he’s taking the first steps in doing so. 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Lamar Jackson has melted down in two nationally televised playoff games. It's okay to admit the media is biased against Josh Allen. It's meaningless to his success but you'd have to be blind to not see it.

 

That isn't the reason that people have reacted differently to this play though. You'd have to be paranoid to believe that. 

[TheElectricCompany]

We don't need to tear down Lamar's game to prop up Josh's.

 

[HappyDays]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

That isn't the reason that people have reacted differently to this play though. You'd have to be paranoid to believe that. 

 

People haven't reacted to the play, that's the point. I didn't even know it happened until it was posted here. Allen has a pre-draft reputation that certain people will never get around so every dumb play he makes will be magnified a hundred times. It is what it is.

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Protocal69 said:

I guess I wasnt the only one who noticed the same thing but the twobillsdrive boys want to call me out.

 

 

 

More paranoid Bills fans with chips on their shoulders. Lamar in Q1 of a W1 blowout vs Josh in Q4 of a tight playoff game. One getting more attention than the other is just common sense. 

 

What that has to do with Josh yesterday I have no idea. But when you have a paranoia about the world having an anti Buffalo agenda maybe conflating points helps these guys feel better. 

 

I have said it numerous times this offseason but Bills fans are really gonna have to get used to what it is like to be a fan of a team that is actually good. The BBFS is real. 

[HappyDays]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

Lamar in Q1 of a W1 blowout vs Josh in Q4 of a tight playoff game.

 

Allen in the 2nd half of a week 1 blowout missed one pass badly and it is the only play certain members of the media are posting. Like I said, some of these analysts will never get over it.