Housch$$ released

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

20 hours ago, BillsFanSD said:

I feel bad for Hauschka because he was never really the same after getting cheap-shotted, but it was time to move on.

 

I could be wrong but I feel like he missed a couple of kicks just before that. So maybe it was a coincidence? 

 

Feel like we have had good success with kickers when they come to Buffalo in their first year. Carpenter was great his first year. Hauschka too. Maybe we just need to sign guys to one year deals. 

[Ralonzo]

19 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

Missed this.  You beat me to it.   Although the 'roo attacking the golfer beats us both. ☺️

 

Not everyone ends up rooing the day...

 

 

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth...

[Mr. WEO]

19 hours ago, eball said:

 

Ha, figures you'd be against this move.  I didn't feel spoiled against the Browns last year, and if Hausch still had a decent leg we'd have been able to try a 54-yarder in a dome vs. Houston in the playoffs.

 

He was an excellent kicker for the Bills and has had a great career, but in Buffalo you need a strong leg and the writing was on the wall.  The fact that Bass was nearly 80% in college should ease people's minds.  He's gonna be very good.

 

 

Hauscka just got let go for 2 seasons of 79%.  How would "nearly 80% be an upgrade?  Bass was 20/28 (71%)  last year in college.  In the Sun Belt Conf...

[Buffalo_Stampede]

35 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

It's possible he was still hurting the following year.  I couldn't tell you for sure.

Carpenter replaced him in 2013 when injured and was amazing. He was automatic. They couldn't cut Carpenter.

Edited August 28, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede

[eball]

5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Hauscka just got let go for 2 seasons of 79%.  How would "nearly 80% be an upgrade?  Bass was 20/28 (71%)  last year in college.  In the Sun Belt Conf...

 

I spent some time looking at historical college kicking percentages...here's the career list.  It's interesting.  Bass is 81st all-time, which means he had a pretty damn good career.

 

Nobody is saying Bass is light years ahead of Hauschka right now but he's close enough that his upside and potential are worth making the change.  He is already better at touchbacks, which are important, and he gives the team an ability to try long FGs -- particularly at home -- that were no longer an option with Hauschka.

 

I'm sure as soon as Bass misses a 39-yarder you'll be one of the first to shout "SEE!!!" but it's bound to happen and we have to hope that his promise will meet his performance sooner rather than later.

[transplantbillsfan]

Whoa. Going with a rookie kicker makes me nervous but Hauschka hasn't been right since that injury a couple years ago.

[Buffalo716]

22 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Hauscka just got let go for 2 seasons of 79%.  How would "nearly 80% be an upgrade?  Bass was 20/28 (71%)  last year in college.  In the Sun Belt Conf...

It doesn't matter what conference you kick in. No difference between kicking in the Sunbelt in the SEC

 

And bass also had a few kicks blocked because he had nobody blocking for him

 

One is a rising kicker who can boot it from 60+ the other is a kicker on the decline who is short from 50

[Mr. WEO]

5 minutes ago, eball said:

 

I spent some time looking at historical college kicking percentages...here's the career list.  It's interesting.  Bass is 81st all-time, which means he had a pretty damn good career.

 

Nobody is saying Bass is light years ahead of Hauschka right now but he's close enough that his upside and potential are worth making the change.  He is already better at touchbacks, which are important, and he gives the team an ability to try long FGs -- particularly at home -- that were no longer an option with Hauschka.

 

I'm sure as soon as Bass misses a 39-yarder you'll be one of the first to shout "SEE!!!" but it's bound to happen and we have to hope that his promise will meet his performance sooner rather than later.

 

He was ranked 72nd in the country last year in accuracy.  His career numbers are 78.9%, 90.5%, 71.4%.

 

But your theory is that it will be easier for him to kick FGs in the AFCE than it was way down in the sunny south against  Sun Belt teams?  Why would that be an intuitive conclusion?

 

Hauschka''s time had come, I think, but this kid struggled last season.  He has 2 career FGs over 50 yards. He's 25/32 (78%) career at 40-49.  Hauschka was 9/10 last year. 

[Doc]

16 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

It doesn't matter what conference you kick in. No difference between kicking in the Sunbelt in the SEC

 

And bass also had a few kicks blocked because he had nobody blocking for him

 

One is a rising kicker who can boot it from 60+ the other is a kicker on the decline who is short from 50

 

If he had 2 kicks blocked, that's 78.6%.  And he was 90.5% and 78.9% the years before.

[eball]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

He was ranked 72nd in the country last year in accuracy.  His career numbers are 78.9%, 90.5%, 71.4%.

 

But your theory is that it will be easier for him to kick FGs in the AFCE than it was way down in the sunny south against  Sun Belt teams?  Why would that be an intuitive conclusion?

 

Hauschka''s time had come, I think, but this kid struggled last season.  He has 2 career FGs over 50 yards. He's 25/32 (78%) career at 40-49.  Hauschka was 9/10 last year. 

 

Where did I say it would be "easier?"  I'd expect him to mature and get better as he goes, but the potential is already there.  The Bills didn't cut Hauschka to save money, they cut him because they believe Bass is a better weapon for them currently, and down the road.  As I've said elsewhere, Bass was better in camp than Hauschka when they kicked in the stadium.  I mean, Hausch just missed a PAT yesterday.

 

I absolutely hope that no game this season comes down to a Bass 45-yard kick, because I'll be biting my nails and holding my breath.  I still don't have a problem with the move.

[GoBills808]

13 pages on kickers smdh

[Mr. WEO]

31 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

If he had 2 kicks blocked, that's 78.6%.  And he was 90.5% and 78.9% the years before.

 

And if he didn't miss any he would be 100% all 3 years!

[Doc Brown]

6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

He actually kicked in a swirling wind yesterday fwiw. Reportedly boomed a kickoff out of the end zone into the wind 

It's just the history of going with a rookie kicker is always more a roll of the dice than a veteran.  Especially without a preseason.  I just don't like it given how we've had a three year rebuild to get to this point and we have a wild card at kicker.

Edited August 28, 2020 by Doc Brown

[Mr. WEO]

31 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Where did I say it would be "easier?"  I'd expect him to mature and get better as he goes, but the potential is already there.  The Bills didn't cut Hauschka to save money, they cut him because they believe Bass is a better weapon for them currently, and down the road.  As I've said elsewhere, Bass was better in camp than Hauschka when they kicked in the stadium.  I mean, Hausch just missed a PAT yesterday.

 

I absolutely hope that no game this season comes down to a Bass 45-yard kick, because I'll be biting my nails and holding my breath.  I still don't have a problem with the move.

 

He's not very good a long FGs.  At least in games.  No better than Hauscka was last year, the year that got him cut, essentially.

 

[Doc]

15 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

And if he didn't miss any he would be 100% all 3 years!

 

Good one.  

[eball]

12 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

He's not very good a long FGs.  At least in games.  No better than Hauscka was last year, the year that got him cut, essentially.

 

 

Ok.  I'm sure you've watched video of all of those kicks in college, too.  Not really sure what you want me to say.  I knew Hauschka would be gone the day they drafted Bass as long as he didn't schitt himself in camp.  There's no guarantee Bass will be great, and he might miss a couple of kicks Hauschka would have made, but I understand why, IN BUFFALO, they went with a kicker who has a powerful leg along with a decent FG% for his career in college.

 

[without a drought]

College vs. NFL hash marks are a big factor in the difference in percetages. This is especially true for longer FG's because the prior play is rarely used to set the ball in the middle of the field, it is usually about getting the first.

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, without a drought said:

College vs. NFL hash marks are a big factor in the difference in percetages. This is especially true for longer FG's because the prior play is rarely used to set the ball in the middle of the field, it is usually about getting the first.

Thank you.  I was just about to say this.

[Mr. WEO]

14 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Ok.  I'm sure you've watched video of all of those kicks in college, too.  Not really sure what you want me to say.  I knew Hauschka would be gone the day they drafted Bass as long as he didn't schitt himself in camp.  There's no guarantee Bass will be great, and he might miss a couple of kicks Hauschka would have made, but I understand why, IN BUFFALO, they went with a kicker who has a powerful leg along with a decent FG% for his career in college.

 

 

Why would I have to see all of his kicks?  He had one very good year in college.  His last season he made 71% of his kicks, which is poor.

 

Why do you say he has a stronger leg when he has made 2 of 4 over 50 in his career and his career accuracy at 40-49 is not better than Hauschka's last 2 seasons of decline?

 

 

[TJC25]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

He was ranked 72nd in the country last year in accuracy.  His career numbers are 78.9%, 90.5%, 71.4%.

 

But your theory is that it will be easier for him to kick FGs in the AFCE than it was way down in the sunny south against  Sun Belt teams?  Why would that be an intuitive conclusion?

 

Hauschka''s time had come, I think, but this kid struggled last season.  He has 2 career FGs over 50 yards. He's 25/32 (78%) career at 40-49.  Hauschka was 9/10 last year. 

And what's your point it's different in the NFL. lines block better the hash placements are different. Justin Tucker was only 83% in college. Harrison Butker had 2 years of 61 and 65 percent. By your "logic" Roberto Aguayo should be the best kicker in the league cause in college he had 95% in college. Kicking percentage in college really doesnt mean much

[ColoradoBills]

16 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Why would I have to see all of his kicks?  He had one very good year in college.  His last season he made 71% of his kicks, which is poor.

 

Why do you say he has a stronger leg when he has made 2 of 4 over 50 in his career and his career accuracy at 40-49 is not better than Hauschka's last 2 seasons of decline?

 

 

 

You can't be serious.

[eball]

21 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Why would I have to see all of his kicks?  He had one very good year in college.  His last season he made 71% of his kicks, which is poor.

 

Why do you say he has a stronger leg when he has made 2 of 4 over 50 in his career and his career accuracy at 40-49 is not better than Hauschka's last 2 seasons of decline?

 

 

 

I see you're in your argumentative mood today.  Jesus.  The dude has practice videos kicking 60 yarders.  Every reporter at camp said something along the lines of "the hype is real" when talking about his leg.

 

And the reason you would want to see the videos is to see how those misses occurred.  Were they short?  Blocked?

 

Just move on.  I'm sorry they cut your boy Hauschka.

[Mr. WEO]

5 minutes ago, eball said:

 

I see you're in your argumentative mood today.  Jesus.  The dude has practice videos kicking 60 yarders.  Every reporter at camp said something along the lines of "the hype is real" when talking about his leg.

 

And the reason you would want to see the videos is to see how those misses occurred.  Were they short?  Blocked?

 

Just move on.  I'm sorry they cut your boy Hauschka.

 

 

lol---my boy!  He was a bum by the end of the year.  Adios!

 

Someone else reported 2 blocks.  A miss is a miss.  Hauschka was pushing and pulling long kicks too---they weren't all short.

 

Videos!!  Youtube is littered with guys kicking long FGs on an empty field.  High school kids are booming 75 yarders.  Yet in real NFL games, only 17 FGs of 60 or more yards have been made in 50 years.  In the past 5 years, only once have more than 5 kickers hit on 5 or more 50+yards.  

 

Big leg/low accuracy is no better than short leg low accuracy.  Why draw the distinction?  The kid had 1 season over 80%.  He has accuracy problems.  Are you going to claim that he, more than any other sub 80% kicker had disproportionate kicks blocked?

 

 

[Fan in San Diego]

23 hours ago, MJS said:

So true. That was such a horrible cheap shot. So uncalled for. Basically ended his career.

Refresh my memory, when did he get cheap shotted?

 

 

[Lurker]

5 minutes ago, Fan in San Diego said:

Refresh my memory, when did he get cheap shotted?

 

 

 

 

[eball]

7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

lol---my boy!  He was a bum by the end of the year.  Adios!

 

Someone else reported 2 blocks.  A miss is a miss.  Hauschka was pushing and pulling long kicks too---they weren't all short.

 

Videos!!  Youtube is littered with guys kicking long FGs on an empty field.  High school kids are booming 75 yarders.  Yet in real NFL games, only 17 FGs of 60 or more yards have been made in 50 years.  In the past 5 years, only once have more than 5 kickers hit on 5 or more 50+yards.  

 

Big leg/low accuracy is no better than short leg low accuracy.  Why draw the distinction?  The kid had 1 season over 80%.  He has accuracy problems.  Are you going to claim that he, more than any other sub 80% kicker had disproportionate kicks blocked?

 

 

 

I'm done here.  I have no idea what point you're trying to make.  Bass is the 81st most accurate kicker in the history of college football.  He has the talent and potential to be very good.  Kickers get better all the time, and they have to start somewhere.  If Bass gives us 80% as a rookie I'll be fine with that.

 

[YoloinOhio]

10 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

 

Really unfortunate and he’s a captain  and culture guy. But on the decline like gostkowski et al 

[MJS]

38 minutes ago, Fan in San Diego said:

Refresh my memory, when did he get cheap shotted?

 

 

 

32 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

 

He's the same guy who put dirty hits on Josh Allen too. He's one of the biggest scum bags in the NFL. Seems only Bills fans have caught on to that, though.

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

You can't be serious.

Oh, he is... 

[Warcodered]

 

[Dr.Sack]

On 8/27/2020 at 1:56 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

What about a kicker who always hits under 50? Three misses under 50 in camp for the Bass. 

3 out of how many? 97/100? Fine. 

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Dr.Sack said:

3 out of how many? 97/100? Fine. 

 

He missed 3 out of 15. 

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He missed 3 out of 15. 

so he made 12/15 otherwise known as 80%

[ColoradoBills]

Has House even been invited to a workout since being released? 

There is a chance that he will sign onto a teams PS making a few 100k.  Maybe even the Bills (especially if Bass starts looks too shaky).

 

I see no need to worry about this at this point in time.

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Warcodered said:

so he made 12/15 otherwise known as 80%

 

That's better than Hauschka the past 2 seasons.

[reddogblitz]

On 8/28/2020 at 12:54 PM, Mr. WEO said:

Videos!!  Youtube is littered with guys kicking long FGs on an empty field.  High school kids are booming 75 yarders.  Yet in real NFL games, only 17 FGs of 60 or more yards have been made in 50 years.  In the past 5 years, only once have more than 5 kickers hit on 5 or more 50+yards.  

 

It's like watching an NBA shoot around, they make almost every one.  When the game starts, suddenly they can't.

 

Evidently Coach McDermott has a lot of faith in the kid. I hope he's right.  If you want to be a SB conteder, you gotta have a lights out kicker. Cheats always have one. Tom Landry always had one.  Peyton Manning's Colts did as well.

 

This does NOT seem like the year to roll with a rookie kicker.  But then again if it works Coach MCDermott will be a Coaching genius.

[YoloinOhio]

10 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

It's like watching an NBA shoot around, they make almost every one.  When the game starts, suddenly they can't.

 

Evidently Coach McDermott has a lot of faith in the kid. I hope he's right.  If you want to be a SB conteder, you gotta have a lights out kicker. Cheats always have one. Tom Landry always had one.  Peyton Manning's Colts did as well.

 

This does NOT seem like the year to roll with a rookie kicker.  But then again if it works Coach MCDermott will be a Coaching genius.

Cheats did have one until they got rid of gostkowski last year. He’s signing with the titans 

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He missed 3 out of 15. 

 

2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

so he made 12/15 otherwise known as 80%

 

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

That's better than Hauschka the past 2 seasons.

 

80%....in camp.  

 

Hauschka's worst was about that----in football games.

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

 

80%....in camp.  

 

Hauschka's worst was about that----in football games.

Pretty sure Hauschka missed at least 3 kicks in camp.

[John from Riverside]

All respect to House money who has done some great things for us as a bill

 

What I will NOT miss is the offense punting in makeable FG range because they dont trust the kicker to make long FG

 

The rookie is gonna miss some......but I hate punting because we dont trust the kicker to have the leg

 

When we DRAFTED a kicker....you knew the writing was on the wall for what was going to happen