Warcodered Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 If Bass can be consistent enough this is probably it for Hauschka. I mean he might be more consistent short than Bass but as long as that difference isn't too great I bet they go with the guy that gives them a shot 50+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Per some of the media who watched it, Winters got stepped on or tripped by the RT Clearly didn’t move his feet. Still an impressive one arm takedown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Per some of the media who watched it, Winters got stepped on or tripped by the RT Oh that might explain it. On the close-up, shows might have been stepped on for just a second - that's all it would take I guess. Still a great aggresive rush Edited August 20, 2020 by stevewin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Don Otreply Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said: That’s flat out Embarrassing for Winters??? I thought so too, and said so earlier, but he may not have been thinking the rookie was going all out, it’s likely not to happen again, at least for Winters sake I hope not...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 30 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Remember all the reports of Mahomes INT's in his first training camp as the starter just before he won MVP. LOL. Never understood the over reaction, good and bad, to just some drills and camp work. There has never been a QB who started a full season thats thrown 0 interceptions. But with Josh, every time he throws one in practice or a game its made into this huge deal by certain people on this board or the media as if its happening at a league leading rate, which its no where close to that. That Mahomes int thread was the greatest in the history of this board. Some many ? takes from the “experts” here. and while I have my doubts on Allen, I could care less about practice. It almost would be better if nothing got reported like the old days. Freaking out about practice is a giant waste of time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Duke isn’t going away easy. I suspect he will be going away though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: I thought so too, and said so earlier, but he may not have been thinking the rookie was going all out, it’s likely not to happen again, at least for Winters sake I hope not...? Yolo said his Winter’s foot got stepped on. He doesn’t move them and just stands straight up. Stuff happens but at first glance it was a WOW moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocemur Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: 1 hour ago, Buffalo Boy said: Winters stood straight up.... a no no. Yeah, but watch why winters stood up. AJ swats his initial punch away with his right hand and is into Winters body with his own hands fast as hell. That's an impressive combo of natural length and good technique hand fighting. Winters should be taking about a six inch step into AJ, but he can't because AJ is into him too fast. His torso can't go forward, so it goes up and he stands up. Yeah, I see the tackle's foot in there, but I think the damage was already done. All Winters could have done would be plant his right foot and try to drive AJ wide, but from a Guard beat to the inside? good luck. Edited August 20, 2020 by ocemur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Yolo said his Winter’s foot got stepped on. He doesn’t move them and just stands straight up. Stuff happens but at first glance it was a WOW moment. I hear ya, ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Royale with Cheese Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Sal Cappacio believes this is Tyler Bass's job to lose. I believe that as well. Hauschka leg isn't strong anymore. He was missing short today a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, stevewin said: That is just crazy - unlike anything I've seen before. The leverage and strength to just throw him down with his left arm. Unreal Ed got him like that last year too lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Sal Cappacio believes this is Tyler Bass's job to lose. I believe that as well. Hauschka leg isn't strong anymore. He was missing short today a few times. I think so all he needs to be is consistent enough at the mid-range and it's his. Love Hauschka but if we don't lose too much from that sub 50 range I bet they go with the guy that gives them a decent shot 50+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I think so all he needs to be is consistent enough at the mid-range and it's his. Love Hauschka but if we don't lose too much from that sub 50 range I bet they go with the guy that gives them a decent shot 50+ It just really seems like that cheap shot that he took at the end of 2018, he hasn't recovered. He used to be automatic from 50+ now he can't even get it there. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Sal Cappacio believes this is Tyler Bass's job to lose. I believe that as well. Hauschka leg isn't strong anymore. He was missing short today a few times. You don't draft a kicker if you aren't wanting him to win the job. You would just sign a FA or wait to see who is a UFA. We cannot be at that much of a disadvantage like we were last year when we had to constantly go for it on 4th down instead of attempting 50 yard FG's...I mean that is a normal FG in the NFL now, not some crazy long one...even 55 is fairly normal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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costrovs Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, matter2003 said: You don't draft a kicker if you aren't wanting him to win the job. You would just sign a FA or wait to see who is a UFA. We cannot be at that much of a disadvantage like we were last year when we had to constantly go for it on 4th down instead of attempting 50 yard FG's...I mean that is a normal FG in the NFL now, not some crazy long one...even 55 is fairly normal. I'm pretty sure we were going for it on 4th and short because JA is a beast. I'm pretty sure I read on here that he only missed one 4th down conversion last year. I wouldn't call that a disadvantage, but more of an advantage. And I'm 100% sure that the Bills going for it on 4th down have nothing to do with Hauschka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, costrovs said: I'm pretty sure we were going for it on 4th and short because JA is a beast. I'm pretty sure I read on here that he only missed one 4th down conversion last year. I wouldn't call that a disadvantage, but more of an advantage. And I'm 100% sure that the Bills going for it on 4th down have nothing to do with Hauschka. The Bills went for it the most of any team from "long FG distance", defined as anything from the 30-40 yd line, last year...and many of these situations were NOT 4th and short, they were like 4th and 4 or 5 or 7...definitely not a distance you would typically go for it unless your faith in your kickers ability to hit from 50 yards was non-existent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Dude Did he not have issues holding on to it last year? Trust me I love motor. The guy is very talented. Only issue is he does fumble a bit too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoloinOhio Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) Sleeper DE: Bryan Cox, Jr punter - Bojo Edited August 20, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: he was just trying to get that last bit of jets stank outta him 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 To Hauskas credit, he did make all the FGs he needed to in the playoffs. I do like bass’s name though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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whatdrought Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: he was just trying to get that last bit of jets stank outta him Exorcism style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishRifle Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I like the concept of a separate thread per day of training camp. Please let this trend continue! It just makes it easier to follow vice digging through a “Training Camp Thread” that you have to think to yourself “Day 4 should start on page 12!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Sal Cappacio believes this is Tyler Bass's job to lose. I believe that as well. Hauschka leg isn't strong anymore. He was missing short today a few times. Yeah, and if Hauschka is coming up short from 50+ in OP during August, that’s not a good sign for what he can do when fall/winter weather gets here. Starting NFL kickers have the leg strength to make 52 yarders. You have to move on from a guy who doesn’t. Edited August 20, 2020 by SirAndrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 It's amazing how Hauschka's long FG's were a major contributor to the 2017 playoff appearance to now being unreliable on long distance FG's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I still think Duke has a legit shot to make the week 1 roster. Locks are obvious...Diggs, Brown, Beasley. Near locks are also obvious...Davis and Roberts. But I think they keep 6, and even though Hodgins has flashed too, I just do not think in a season with no preseason and a very limited camp they will keep two rookies on the active roster each week, especially with COVID being a threat to knock anyone out ahead of them and forcing them into more playing time. IMO, I think its more likely Hodgins will go to PS and a 6th WR will be kept out of Duke, McKenzie, and Foster...and Foster is missing time again, McKenzie is more a gadget specialist that we have other guys who can already run those plays. Duke at least represents a larger catch radius for Redzone and third down possessions. So, if one of those 3 are kept, I think Duke may be creating some momentum for his case right now. Its nothing against Hodgins, I am quite intrigued by him and I love what I am hearing about him so far, but just think its going to be a long road for him to make the roster under this years circumstances and the depth of talent we have in the room now. Think this camp favors the player who knows the offense already and system when there is a close battle. And McD and his staff tend to like to bring rookies along slower and I can see more of a Foster like path for Hodgins where he starts on the PS and will get his shot potentially later in the year if one of the other guys get hurt or are not getting the job done. I don't really care either way, I just want them to make the best moves for the team, and Beane and McD earned my full trust in them, so whatever they decide is fine with me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 5 hours ago, HappyDays said: I was excited about him when we drafted him. He hasn't been talked about a ton, but I think he could have a really good year. And he just did THAT to an starting caliber NFL olineman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I still think Duke has a legit shot to make the week 1 roster. Locks are obvious...Diggs, Brown, Beasley. Near locks are also obvious...Davis and Roberts. But I think they keep 6, and even though Hodgins has flashed too, I just do not think in a season with no preseason and a very limited camp they will keep two rookies on the active roster each week, especially with COVID being a threat to knock anyone out ahead of them and forcing them into more playing time. IMO, I think its more likely Hodgins will go to PS and a 6th WR will be kept out of Duke, McKenzie, and Foster...and Foster is missing time again, McKenzie is more a gadget specialist that we have other guys who can already run those plays. Duke at least represents a larger catch radius for Redzone and third down possessions. So, if one of those 3 are kept, I think Duke may be creating some momentum for his case right now. Its nothing against Hodgins, I am quite intrigued by him and I love what I am hearing about him so far, but just think its going to be a long road for him to make the roster under this years circumstances and the depth of talent we have in the room now. Think this camp favors the player who knows the offense already and system when there is a close battle. And McD and his staff tend to like to bring rookies along slower and I can see more of a Foster like path for Hodgins where he starts on the PS and will get his shot potentially later in the year if one of the other guys get hurt or are not getting the job done. I don't really care either way, I just want them to make the best moves for the team, and Beane and McD earned my full trust in them, so whatever they decide is fine with me too. If the decision comes down to Duke or Hodgins the smart thing is to keep Hodgins on the 53 and put Duke on the PS. Far more likely a team would poach Hodgins than Duke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 7 hours ago, HappyDays said: What’s good, gents? What’s good? In today’s NFL, if your kicker can’t connect from 50+ you are up the crick without a paddle... and that’s the fact Jack! With reports that Haushcka is consistently short from 50+ at camp today, it sounds like nothing has changed from last year. Looks like this Bass fellow will get the nod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I think Bass unseats House this year.....you dont draft a kicker and then not use him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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whatdrought Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Just now, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Oh yeah. I'm here for it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Oh yeah. I'm here for it... Tre White was also going 50% there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 50 minutes ago, eball said: If the decision comes down to Duke or Hodgins the smart thing is to keep Hodgins on the 53 and put Duke on the PS. Far more likely a team would poach Hodgins than Duke. I don't disagree with that really, I mean Duke could easily be the one who hits the PS again. My only thing about it was the uniqueness of this season IMO will make it harder for deeper drafted rookies and UDFA rookies to beat out someone with more experience in the system in a close battle. But ultimately, I have no issue if they did keep Hodgins over Duke. At the end of the day, if Hodgins shines he will earn his spot. Just a lot harder to shine with no preseason games, minimal contact, etc. Lots of guys look good in drills, so I don't think making a handful of nice plays in drills will be enough. Hodgins will have to shine when we get into full on practices and shine quickly as there wont be many of those before roster cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: That Mahomes int thread was the greatest in the history of this board. Some many ? takes from the “experts” here. and while I have my doubts on Allen, I could care less about practice. It almost would be better if nothing got reported like the old days. Freaking out about practice is a giant waste of time. Not even close. Nothing will ever surpass Da'Rick vs Hogan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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