Gambit Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I really hope he wins the job. Haushka just isn't what he used to be. Plus this kid has a crazy strong leg. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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H2o Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I like that our offense is facing a defense like ours in practice. Our defense is easily top 3 in the league. Josh is gonna have some rough days, but it will make him better for it in the end. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gambit Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Not a good sign that he is still having issues fumbling. Hopefully Moss ends up being great so we don't need to rely on Singletary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) It feels to me like we will be looking at Phillips, Oliver, and Epenesa as the bedrock of our (very good/elite) Defensive Line going forward by the midpoint of this season. Gabe Davis is super exciting to me. To be that big and physical while still having some speed, plus I love that we don't "need" him right now. Let the kid grow and learn from some great teachers and contribute as he can. Edited August 20, 2020 by whatdrought 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 29 minutes ago, whatdrought said: It's always interesting to me how multiple reporters can watch the same day of practice from Allen and walk away with two different stories. Yes, Thad brown always seems to default to more negative on Josh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Gabe Davis beating Tre and flashing speed is really interesting. I think he could be a 4th rd steal. And the fact he’s been playing all over makes him versatile to play outside or inside or even the Isaiah mckenzie role. Also, I wonder if it’s that out of the question that Davis Webb wins the backup job. Not arguing with you but any positive mention of any player taken in rounds 3-5 during training camps gives fans hope that they got a steal :) And then some of them realize that they are Jets fans and drafted Jachai Polite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Putin Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, whatdrought said: It's always interesting to me how multiple reporters can watch the same day of practice from Allen and walk away with two different stories. It’s the same as watching SAME protests on CNN flowers and unicorns everywhere and then switch to FOX and the city is on fire and bombs exploding everywhere !!! GO BILLS !!! Edited August 20, 2020 by Putin 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I'm standing by my dark horse prediction that Moss will end up the 1A RB by the end of the season. If Singletary keeps fumbling we can't rely on him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 37 minutes ago, whatdrought said: It's always interesting to me how multiple reporters can watch the same day of practice from Allen and walk away with two different stories. If there are two reports, and Thad Brown is reporting one then I'm more inclined to believe the other reporter. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Putin said: It’s the same as watching SAME protests on CNN flowers and unicorns everywhere and then switch to FOX and the city is on fire and bombs exploding everywhere !!! GO BILLS !!! Meh, that's more a matter of specifically deceptive reporting to fit the narrative they want to drive. This is, I think, more just an example of people wearing a certain set of glasses as they watch practice. Either the "Pro-josh" glasses, or the "Josh sucks" glasses. What I've found in the media, and somewhat around here as well, is that those who are in the positive side of things are more likely to acknowledge the middle ground such as "Josh had some nice plays yesterday, but he really struggled here and here and I hope he works on this. I'm confident he'll continue to grow." versus those on the negative side who seem to really struggle to acknowledge any good without draping it in disclaimers and negativity such as "While Allen's touchdown pass on 3rd down was a nice throw, he completely missed a window to John Brown on second down which is really indicative of the fact that he's still not seeing the field like an starting NFL quarterback should. Im not encouraged by his performance." 1 minute ago, Clyde Smith said: If there are two reports, and Thad Brown is reporting one then I'm more inclined to believe the other reporter. If there's one reporter and Thad is that reporter, I'm still more likely to believe the other reporter. At least when it comes to Josh. Edited August 20, 2020 by whatdrought 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Meh, that's more a matter of specifically deceptive reporting to fit the narrative they want to drive. This is, I think, more just an example of people wearing a certain set of glasses as they watch practice. Either the "Pro-josh" glasses, or the "Josh sucks" glasses. What I've found in the media, and somewhat around here as well, is that those who are in the positive side of things are more likely to acknowledge the middle ground such as "Josh had some nice plays yesterday, but he really struggled here and here and I hope he works on this. I'm confident he'll continue to grow." versus those on the negative side who seem to really struggle to acknowledge any good without draping it in disclaimers and negativity such as "While Allen's touchdown pass on 3rd down was a nice throw, he completely missed a window to John Brown on second down which is really indicative of the fact that he's still not seeing the field like an starting NFL quarterback should. Im not encouraged by his performance." If there's one reporter and Thad is that reporter, I'm still more likely to believe the other reporter. At least when it comes to Josh. Totally agree lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, Gambit said: Not a good sign that he is still having issues fumbling. Hopefully Moss ends up being great so we don't need to rely on Singletary. we'll need both 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) I dont think people realize how a kicker actually changes the offense in certain situations. Take Hauschka last year. Mcdermott and Daboll know that they need to get the ball to at least the 35 for Hauschka to even have a chance to kick it and hence if the ball is at the 50 Daboll needs to be aggressive to put the ball in kicking range. So many times we wouldn't move the ball and instead have to punt because we didn't execute the aggressive play. With Bass, we only need to get the ball to the 40 and he can kick it. It means the offense doesn't have to be as aggressive on 3rd down and we can focus on picking up a couple yards instead of going for about 15. Plus the Bills offense simply doesn't score many TD's. We need every chance we can to put up 3. A bit rambling but I hopefully others understand that. I'll be shocked if Bass isn't on the team.. Edited August 20, 2020 by DJB 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That’s flat out Embarrassing for Winters??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 minute ago, DJB said: I dont think people realize how a kicker actually changes the offense in certain situations. Take Hauschka last year. Mcdermott and Daboll know that they need to get the ball to at least the 40 for Hauschka to even have a chance to kick it and hence if the ball is at the 50 Daboll needs to be aggressive to put the ball in kicking range. So many times we wouldn't move the ball and instead have to punt because we didn't execute the aggressive play. With Bass, we only need to get the ball to the 45 and he can kick it. It means the offense doesn't have to be as aggressive on 3rd down and we can focus on picking up a couple yards instead of going for about 10. Plus the Bills offense simply doesn't score many TD's. We need every chance we can to put up 3. A bit rambling but I hopefully others understand that. I'll be shocked if Bass isn't on the team.. The 40 means a 57 yd kick and 45 means 62 yarder. Are you sure that's what you mean? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, DJB said: I dont think people realize how a kicker actually changes the offense in certain situations. Take Hauschka last year. Mcdermott and Daboll know that they need to get the ball to at least the 40 for Hauschka to even have a chance to kick it and hence if the ball is at the 50 Daboll needs to be aggressive to put the ball in kicking range. So many times we wouldn't move the ball and instead have to punt because we didn't execute the aggressive play. With Bass, we only need to get the ball to the 45 and he can kick it. It means the offense doesn't have to be as aggressive on 3rd down and we can focus on picking up a couple yards instead of going for about 10. Plus the Bills offense simply doesn't score many TD's. We need every chance we can to put up 3. A bit rambling but I hopefully others understand that. I'll be shocked if Bass isn't on the team.. I have a feeling this offense is going to be much more aggressive this year, which in a different way, lends itself to Bass. If we have a kicker who can strike from almost anywhere in 35-38 yard line range, we can take shots and not worry about FG positioning. Edited August 20, 2020 by SCBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, nucci said: The 40 means a 57 yd kick and 45 means 62 yarder. Are you sure that's what you mean? The numbers are somewhat irrelevant but ill update the post to reflect it for accuracy. 8 minutes ago, SCBills said: I have a feeling this offense is going to be much more aggressive this year, which in a different way, lends itself to Bass. If we have a kicker who can strike from almost anywhere in 35-38 yard line range, we can take shots and not worry about FG positioning. I do understand that as well. But I was looking at it in a 3rd and long needing 15-20 yards for a field goal try with Hauschka vs maybe only 10 for Bass. Makes 3rd and long much more manageable for the offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Gabe Davis is intriguing and could be a nice #2 opposite Diggs in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, DJB said: The numbers are somewhat irrelevant but ill update the post to reflect it for accuracy. I do understand that as well. But I was looking at it in a 3rd and long needing 15-20 yards for a field goal try with Hauschka vs maybe only 10 for Bass. Makes 3rd and long much more manageable for the offense ahhh, ok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gambit Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 21 minutes ago, nucci said: we'll need both If he doesn't quit fumbling the damn ball it won't matter if we need him. He will ride the bench. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 37 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: Yes, Thad brown always seems to default to more negative on Josh Thats because Thad is a Jets fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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whatdrought Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, 17islongenough said: Thats because Thad is a Jets fan. In actuality? Or just how he comes across? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: In actuality? Or just how he comes across? I bowl in the same league as him and he has a Jets spare ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, 17islongenough said: I bowl in the same league as him and he has a Jets spare ball. Is his primary ball one of those giant eyeball balls in honor of Adam Gase? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Is Epenesa that good or did the Jets cut Winters for a reason? A little of both, I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Is Epenesa that good or did the Jets cut Winters for a reason? A little of both, I think Epenesa was such a beast In college. Excited to see him play in this scheme. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, 17islongenough said: I bowl in the same league as him and he has a Jets spare ball. Also is it out of bounds to suggest it's rare to find a Jets fan with two balls? 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Gambit said: Not a good sign that he is still having issues fumbling. Hopefully Moss ends up being great so we don't need to rely on Singletary. Dude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I mean that was basic footwork you could see when watching kids playing street football...dude got like 6 feet down...Parrino is looking for something to be impressed by apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: That is just crazy - unlike anything I've seen before. The leverage and strength to just throw him down with his left arm. Unreal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 58 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Is Epenesa that good or did the Jets cut Winters for a reason? A little of both, I think Winters stood straight up.... a no no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Winters stood straight up.... a no no. Per some of the media who watched it, Winters got stepped on or tripped by the RT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, eball said: I know, right? And I never understand the consternation over throwing picks in practice also. I mean, you don't want a ton of them, but (a) the Bills have a very good defense and (b) you want the QB to take shots in practice to find out what he can/can't do. Remember all the reports of Mahomes INT's in his first training camp as the starter just before he won MVP. LOL. Never understood the over reaction, good and bad, to just some drills and camp work. There has never been a QB who started a full season thats thrown 0 interceptions. But with Josh, every time he throws one in practice or a game its made into this huge deal by certain people on this board or the media as if its happening at a league leading rate, which its no where close to that. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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