Ed Oliver Arrested DWI

[Doc]

5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Say what?  The unlawful gun law was specifically written to include "intoxication". 

 

As MAJ said, it will get tossed.  I still see a suspension of 2 games though.

[Bangarang]

17 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Thank God it was. She was nuts.

Id like to hear more about this

[Sharky7337]

54 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said:

The fact that you carry around a weapon is demonstrating your cavalier attitude. Just sayin’.

 

The fact that someone chooses to use their lawful rights that many people have bled and died for, in order to protect themselves and their family/ or loved ones on a equal playing field to those that do not care and or abide by laws does not make anyone cavalier.

 

Can we please keep the BS out of this thread?

 

I mean the takes like "3 white cops pulled him over" WTF does that have to do with his actions that got him there in the first place? What about his own accountability for his actions?

 

Or the loud mouth political agenda on people with guns are bad. This is a sports forum, and you do not have to agree. Do what works for you.

 

But just like modern day america, just because your the loudest voice, doesn't mean everyone agrees with you. 

 

I certainly don't.

 

[JerseyBills]

Luckily we are stacked inside on the DL. Harry,Star,QJeff,Butler and Epensa can all play DT but I had Big Ed pegged to have a huge year.  Pro Bowl year. He really progressed nicely last year. 

 

4th NFL player this week.  We're talking 20 something year olds with millions in the bank and no responsibilities besides virtual meetings. It's a recipe for disaster.

 

Anyone know the expected suspension time for this type of incident? 

Should have been at OTAs.

? Coronavirus

[Ralonzo]

1 hour ago, Sig1Hunter said:

He was called in by a citizen. People dont call in suspected impaired drivers over one swerve or drift. In my experience, the ones where the citizens call in are usually the worst driving patterns.

 

Or it's citizens with the worst snitching patterns. Snitching is the new cool thing, you handshakers are gonna get yours!

[BUNCH OF MULARKEY]

He should have rode his horse instead

[Ralonzo]

5 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

You got to be pretty cheap to be without a cup holder ,

 

You don't want to be distracted fumbling for your beer all the way over in a cupholder. That's reckless. Keep it in your lap where it's easy to reach without taking your eyes off the road.

[Kirby Jackson]

Hopefully this is a learning experience for Oliver. Often times when these things happen they can either be the turning point that forces someone to grow up or the beginning of a pattern. I’m hoping that this is the former.

[FireChans]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

Hopefully this is a learning experience for Oliver. Often times when these things happen they can either be the turning point that forces someone to grow up or the beginning of a pattern. I’m hoping that this is the former.

Luckily, he didn’t look like he was out of control on that video. 

 

However, a Texan football star not being allowed to walk by some local Texas cops is not good either.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

12 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Id like to hear more about this

 

Not all that interesting. Unlike say driving with an open beer and a weapon.

Edited May 17, 2020 by Joe in Winslow

[Buffalo_Stampede]

9 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Luckily we are stacked inside on the DL. Harry,Star,QJeff,Butler and Epensa can all play DT but I had Big Ed pegged to have a huge year.  Pro Bowl year. He really progressed nicely last year. 

 

4th NFL player this week.  We're talking 20 something year olds with millions in the bank and no responsibilities besides virtual meetings. It's a recipe for disaster.

 

Anyone know the expected suspension time for this type of incident? 

Should have been at OTAs.

? Coronavirus

Won't be until 2021 anyway. 2-4 games in 2021.

[lookylookyherecomescookie]

There's the expression usually referring to basketball,  "you can't teach height".   I have a real question, not rhetorical,  can you fix stupid?  I really don't know. You can teach an ignorant person, but can you change a stupid one?  I'm not saying that what Oliver did was horrible, I'm saying it's stupid, given his financial situation, his very public status, his future. How hard is it to not drive with an open container?  How hard is it to not have a handgun that might be illegal?  Is it really that difficult for a player to not put himself in a position where he might get suspended by the league?  Real question-is he stupid, and if so can that be fixed?

[Motor26]

Poised to have a breakout year. Good thing they added depth at the defensive tackle position, still gonna hurt the team.

[JerseyBills]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Won't be until 2021 anyway. 2-4 games in 2021.

Not bad . Not good either. 

Just hope this is an eye opener for him and makes him re-evaluate his decision making , grow stronger , more mature. 

[letsgoteam]

Member when the Bills have had other players in the past get in trouble during the off-season and so many people had so many opinions on the matter. Wild speculation and people saying how bad of a person they are. I member. Well everyone will be cheering for him again and totally forget about this once he is on the field, making plays because Pepridge Farms, with a side of member berries, members. 

 

Seriously though let it play out.

[MAJBobby]

16 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

As MAJ said, it will get tossed.  I still see a suspension of 2 games though.

I have a hard time with the suspension because what would the league suspend him on?  They can’t use the DWI as the way the policy is written if he pleads out of the DWI. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, Motor26 said:

Poised to have a breakout year. Good thing they added depth at the defensive tackle position, still gonna hurt the team.

Hurts Ed Oliver the most. He loses his gauranteed money. Bills can now release him whenever with major dead cap.

[Fr. Jerk]

[Do The Reich Thing]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

Luckily, he didn’t look like he was out of control on that video. 

 

However, a Texan football star not being allowed to walk by some local Texas cops is not good either.

I feel like he already looks remorseful and knew how bad he messed up. 
 

This doesn’t necessarily say anything about Ed’s character. What will be more telling is how he bounces back from this. 
 

I know some people that have made a bad mistake and unfortunately received a DUI/DWI.  They’re not bad people because of one choice, but they’re rather naive, self absorbed, and irrational when they make that decision. 
 

Let’s hope the big guy can mature and grow from this. 

[MJS]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Hurts Ed Oliver the most. He loses his gauranteed money. Bills can now release him whenever with major dead cap.

He's not going to get released...

[The Dean]

I thought driving with some guns in the car and a beer between your legs was a requirement in Texas.

 

Clearly a bad move by Oliver and a black mark on the Bills offseason. I want it to be understood I do not condone what Oliver did, and he should get his due puishment.

 

With that said, I have a feeling Ed will use this experience going forward. He handled the arrest very calmly and professionally (unlike so many athletes). He'll learn from this and I doubt he repeats it.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, MJS said:

He's not going to get released...

Not now. But it makes it easy for the Bills if he struggles or has any other issues.

[Doogie]

4 hours ago, Devilmann said:

Houston isn’t in Montgomery county that’s Harris county it’s close to Houston. It’s legal to carry a firearm but only if you have a license for it and just like everywhere else there is no open alcoholic containers

It is also not legal in Texas to carry a firearm, when drinking alcohol.

[Clutchwarfare]

10 minutes ago, lookylookyherecomescookie said:

There's the expression usually referring to basketball,  "you can't teach height".   I have a real question, not rhetorical,  can you fix stupid?  I really don't know. You can teach an ignorant person, but can you change a stupid one?  I'm not saying that what Oliver did was horrible, I'm saying it's stupid, given his financial situation, his very public status, his future. How hard is it to not drive with an open container?  How hard is it to not have a handgun that might be illegal?  Is it really that difficult for a player to not put himself in a position where he might get suspended by the league?  Real question-is he stupid, and if so can that be fixed?

This question reminds me of the episode of the Last Dance that was focused on Dennis Rodman. Phil Jackson had a way of reaching Rodman and making the best of his stupidity.

8 minutes ago, letsgoteam said:

Member when the Bills have had other players in the past get in trouble during the off-season and so many people had so many opinions on the matter. Wild speculation and people saying how bad of a person they are. I member. Well everyone will be cheering for him again and totally forget about this once he is on the field, making plays because Pepridge Farms, with a side of member berries, members. 

 

Seriously though let it play out.

Anyone else thinking of Marcel Darius a lot today?

[Mr. WEO]

26 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said:

 

The fact that someone chooses to use their lawful rights that many people have bled and died for

 

 

 

 

You mean, like, during the Revolutionary War?

[The Dean]

3 minutes ago, Clutchwarfare said:

 

Anyone else thinking of Marcel Darius a lot today?

 

Not at all, based on this one incident. However, should it (or something similarly stupid) should happen again, Marcel comparisons will be appropriate. But I don't get that vibe from Oliver.

[MAJBobby]

6 minutes ago, Clutchwarfare said:

This question reminds me of the episode of the Last Dance that was focused on Dennis Rodman. Phil Jackson had a way of reaching Rodman and making the best of his stupidity.

Anyone else thinking of Marcel Darius a lot today?

nope why would I?

[Doc]

16 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

I have a hard time with the suspension because what would the league suspend him on?  They can’t use the DWI as the way the policy is written if he pleads out of the DWI. 

 

Goodell will find a way...

[Your Brown Eye]

Somewhere in the Arizona Cardinals training facility Jordan Phillips is laughing his ass off 

 

 

[Clutchwarfare]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

nope why would I?

Buffalo Bills first round pick DT arrested during off season. 

[MILFHUNTER#518]

All I can say is that it is a good thing this happened in Texas, and not NY. With that weapons charge he would be in the pen for years, not months.

[atlbillsfan1975]

10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Not now. But it makes it easy for the Bills if he struggles or has any other issues.

This is an overreaction. He is in his early 20’s and made a mistake. Luckily no one was hurt. He learns from this and moves on and continues his upward trajectory of being a great player for the Bills. Hope and want this to be the case. 

[Not at the table Karlos]

24 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Luckily, he didn’t look like he was out of control on that video. 

 

However, a Texan football star not being allowed to walk by some local Texas cops is not good either.

I hate police more than the next guy but if you break the law you should expect to be arrested. 

[Sharky7337]

1 hour ago, Buddy Hix said:

The fact that you carry around a weapon is demonstrating your cavalier attitude. Just sayin’.

 

7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

You mean, like, during the Revolutionary War?

 

Is that the only war people have died in?

 

Hmm there's an oathe they take:

 

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; 

 

So your snide or funny remark, whichever you thought it was, is really disrespectful. Cause the second amendment is what those people are swearing to protect. Among other things of course.

 

And i think we all know there has been lot of war casualties since the revolutionary war... unless your delusional, then carry on. But I'm not gonna go back to this anymore. I'd like to keep this on topic.

 

Arguing with fools only makes people from a distance see you as the same.

Edited May 17, 2020 by Sharky7337

[artmalibu]

Texas does require a permit for handguns.  It is very easy to get, considering he has lived there his whole life no reason why he should not have it.  

 

I believe the only reason for him to catch a gun charge would be because of not having the permit.  

 

If this is the case he is a real idiot!!!

[Don Otreply]

Maybe being it’s Texas and guns are a given, and Football is bigger than god, that and alcohol drive throughs  exist, this could be a slap on the wrist sort of deal, no big deal right... ??

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

Damn, this sucks for him, his family, and the organization.  

 

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, Sharky7337 said:

 

 

Is that the only war people have died in?

 

Hmm there's an oathe they take:

 

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; 

 

So your snide or funny remark, whichever you thought it was, is really disrespectful. Cause the second amendment is what those people are swearing to protect. Among other things of course.

 

And i think we all know there has been lot of war casualties since the revolutionary war... unless your delusional, then carry on. But I'm not gonna go back to this anymore. I'd like to keep this on topic.

 

Arguing with fools only makes people from a distance see you as the same.

We all understand the pledge. That's not what I'm asking relative to your statement.

 

What other wars fought were over the Rights afforded in the US Constitution to American citizens, or over a threat to the Constitution?  What enemy was threatening the 2nd amendment or other provisions of the Constitution?

 

You brought it up...

[Buffalo_Stampede]

4 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

This is an overreaction. He is in his early 20’s and made a mistake. Luckily no one was hurt. He learns from this and moves on and continues his upward trajectory of being a great player for the Bills. Hope and want this to be the case. 

Its a simple fact. He messed up his contract. He can't even sign a new one for 3 years. He's got to be flawless now.

[noacls]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

Does it all the time. Big donation. Then add the fines for the charge itself. 
 

like I said I have had 5 soldiers plead down to wet reckless in my years stationed in Texas without any big donation. Just using the diversion program 

Are gun law senteces in texas mandatory like New York state? Thanks bobby